Rank Engine Score St Ve S-B
1 Stockfish_5_x64_modern 15.5/30 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =1==01========================? 224.75
2 Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2 14.5/30 =0==10========================? · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 224.75
30 of 40 games played
Tournament start: 2022.06.28, 01:58:17
Latest update: 2022.07.06, 19:03:58
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P, United States
Level: Blitz 15/10
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
[pgn][Event "3260 rated engines"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.07.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_5_x64_modern"]
[Black "Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3260"]
[ECO "B33"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "06:01:06"]
[Variation "Pelikan, Bird Variation"]
[WhiteElo "3260"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "236"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bf4 e5
8. Bg5 a6 9. Na3 Be6 10. Nc4 Be7 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Nxd6+ Kf8 13. Nc4 g6 14.
Nd5 Kg7 15. c3 b5 16. Nce3 Bg5 17. Qf3 Ne7 18. h4 Nxd5 19. hxg5 Nxe3 20.
Qxe3 Qd6 21. Bd3 b4 22. c4 Rad8 23. Ke2 Qc7 24. b3 Rd4 25. Rad1 Rhd8 26.
Bc2 Bg4+ 27. f3 Be6 28. Rd3 Qa5 29. Ra1 Qa3 30. Rxd4 exd4 31. Qc1 Bxc4+ 32.
bxc4 d3+ 33. Ke3 Qa5 34. Bb3 Qxg5+ 35. Kf2 d2 36. Qg1 Qf6 37. Ke2 Qc3 38.
g4 a5 39. c5 Rd3 40. Rd1 a4 41. Bxa4 Qc4 42. Kf2 h5 43. c6 Qa6 44. Bc2 Rc3
45. Bb3 Qd3 46. Qg3 Qe3+ 47. Kf1 Qd3+ 48. Kg1 Rxb3 49. axb3 Qe2 50. Rxd2
Qxd2 51. gxh5 Qc1+ 52. Kg2 Qxc6 53. Qe5+ Kh7 54. hxg6+ Qxg6+ 55. Qg3 Qc6
56. Qh4+ Kg6 57. Qg4+ Kh7 58. Qf5+ Kg8 59. Qd5 Qc3 60. Kf2 Kf8 61. Ke2 Qc2+
62. Ke3 Qc1+ 63. Qd2 Qg1+ 64. Kf4 Qb6 65. Qd3 Kg8 66. e5 Qh6+ 67. Ke4 Qg6+
68. Kd4 Qb6+ 69. Kd5 Qe6+ 70. Kc5 Qxe5+ 71. Kxb4 Qe7+ 72. Kc4 Qc7+ 73. Kd5
Qd8+ 74. Ke4 Qe7+ 75. Kf5 Qe6+ 76. Kg5 Qe5+ 77. Kg4 Qg7+ 78. Kf4 Qh6+ 79.
Kg3 Qg5+ 80. Kf2 Qh4+ 81. Kg2 Qb4 82. Qc4 Qd2+ 83. Kh3 Qd1 84. Qg4+ Kf8 85.
Qc8+ Kg7 86. Qc3+ Kg6 87. b4 f5 88. Qe3 Kf6 89. Kg3 Qd6+ 90. Qf4 Qd3 91.
Qh6+ Ke7 92. Qc6 Qd2 93. b5 Qg5+ 94. Kf2 Qd2+ 95. Kg1 Qd1+ 96. Kh2 Qd2+ 97.
Kh3 Qg5 98. Qd5 Kf8 99. Kh2 Ke7 100. Kh1 Qg3 101. Qxf5 Qf2 102. Qe4+ Kf6
103. Qd5 Qf1+ 104. Kh2 Qf2+ 105. Kh3 Qg1 106. Kh4 Qf2+ 107. Kg4 Qg2+ 108.
Kf4 Qh2+ 109. Ke4 Qe2+ 110. Kd4 Qd2+ 111. Kc5 Qa5 112. Qe4 Kg5 113. Kc6
Qa8+ 114. Kd7 Qa7+ 115. Ke8 Qb6 116. Qg4+ Kh6 117. Qf4+ Kg6 118. Qe5 Qa5
{Arena Adjudication} 1-0[/pgn]
Velvet vs Stockfish 5 after 30 games even
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Velvet vs Stockfish 5 after 30 games even
Last edited by Chessqueen on Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:30 am, edited 3 times in total.
Forget about memorization of Opening Theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN3381sdcdY
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Re: Velvet vs Stockfish 5 after 30 games even
For those that want to see 1000 games they can download these two engines and play 1000 games, for me a small sample is enough to figured out that they are equally rated 
Rank Engine Score St Ve S-B
1 Stockfish_5_x64_modern 15.5/30 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =1==01========================? 224.75
2 Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2 14.5/30 =0==10========================? · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 224.75
30 of 40 games played
Tournament start: 2022.06.28, 01:58:17
Latest update: 2022.07.06, 19:03:58
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P, United States
Level: Blitz 15/10
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
[pgn][Event "3260 rated engines"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.07.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish-3-64-ja"]
[Black "Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "3230"]
[Time "19:13:00"]
[WhiteElo "3220"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "104"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7
8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 Be6 10. Nc3 O-O 11. cxd5 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nxd5 13. Bd2 Nb6
14. Re1 Re8 15. Bd3 Bc4 16. Bxc4 Nxc4 17. Qb3 Nxd2 18. Nxd2 b6 19. f4 Bd6
20. g3 Qd7 21. Nf3 Qf5 22. a4 c5 23. Qb5 Rxe1+ 24. Rxe1 g6 25. Ne5 cxd4 26.
Qd5 Rd8 27. cxd4 Be7 28. Qb3 Bf8 29. Nc6 Rd6 30. Qc4 a6 31. Re8 Kg7 32. Re1
b5 33. axb5 axb5 34. Qc3 Qd5 35. Rc1 Re6 36. Rc2 Bd6 37. Rf2 Re8 38. Nb4
Qf5 39. Rb2 h5 40. Qd3 Qh3 41. Nc2 h4 42. Qf3 hxg3 43. hxg3 Bxf4 44. Qg2
Qh5 45. gxf4 Re2 46. Qg3 Rxc2 47. Rxc2 Qd1+ 48. Kf2 Qxc2+ 49. Ke1 b4 50.
Qe3 b3 51. Qe5+ Kh7 52. f5 b2 {Arena Adjudication} 0-1[/pgn]
Rank Engine Score St Ve S-B
1 Stockfish_5_x64_modern 15.5/30 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =1==01========================? 224.75
2 Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2 14.5/30 =0==10========================? · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 224.75
30 of 40 games played
Tournament start: 2022.06.28, 01:58:17
Latest update: 2022.07.06, 19:03:58
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P, United States
Level: Blitz 15/10
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
[pgn][Event "3260 rated engines"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.07.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish-3-64-ja"]
[Black "Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "3230"]
[Time "19:13:00"]
[WhiteElo "3220"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "104"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7
8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 Be6 10. Nc3 O-O 11. cxd5 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nxd5 13. Bd2 Nb6
14. Re1 Re8 15. Bd3 Bc4 16. Bxc4 Nxc4 17. Qb3 Nxd2 18. Nxd2 b6 19. f4 Bd6
20. g3 Qd7 21. Nf3 Qf5 22. a4 c5 23. Qb5 Rxe1+ 24. Rxe1 g6 25. Ne5 cxd4 26.
Qd5 Rd8 27. cxd4 Be7 28. Qb3 Bf8 29. Nc6 Rd6 30. Qc4 a6 31. Re8 Kg7 32. Re1
b5 33. axb5 axb5 34. Qc3 Qd5 35. Rc1 Re6 36. Rc2 Bd6 37. Rf2 Re8 38. Nb4
Qf5 39. Rb2 h5 40. Qd3 Qh3 41. Nc2 h4 42. Qf3 hxg3 43. hxg3 Bxf4 44. Qg2
Qh5 45. gxf4 Re2 46. Qg3 Rxc2 47. Rxc2 Qd1+ 48. Kf2 Qxc2+ 49. Ke1 b4 50.
Qe3 b3 51. Qe5+ Kh7 52. f5 b2 {Arena Adjudication} 0-1[/pgn]
Forget about memorization of Opening Theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN3381sdcdY
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Re: Velvet vs Stockfish 5 after 30 games even
This confirmed to me that Stockfish 5 is still a little bit stronger than Velvet, but not by much, and NO I will not test these two engines up to 1000 games, if you want you can download both of these engines and test them it yourself to 1000 games.
Fritz 17 64-bit 4CPU 3269 +15 −15 43.6% +39.7 63.2% 1264
50.8%
Fritz 18 Neuronal 64-bit 3269 +22 −21 46.9% +21.6 52.7% 658
50.2%
Stockfish 5 64-bit 4CPU 3269 +14 −13 64.0% −86.7 56.4% 1687
52.1%
Ethereal 10.55 64-bit 4CPU 3268 +24 −25 49.8% −1.5 57.4% 488
54.6%
Komodo 10.3 64-bit 3267 +16 −16 71.2% −135.5 49.2% 1248
Rank Engine Score St Ve S-B
1 Stockfish_5_x64_modern 20.5/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =1==01=========================0=110==== 399.75
2 Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2 19.5/40 =0==10=========================1=001==== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 399.75
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2022.06.28, 01:58:17
Latest update: 2022.07.06, 19:03:58
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P, United States
Level: Blitz 15/10
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
Fritz 17 64-bit 4CPU 3269 +15 −15 43.6% +39.7 63.2% 1264
50.8%
Fritz 18 Neuronal 64-bit 3269 +22 −21 46.9% +21.6 52.7% 658
50.2%
Stockfish 5 64-bit 4CPU 3269 +14 −13 64.0% −86.7 56.4% 1687
52.1%
Ethereal 10.55 64-bit 4CPU 3268 +24 −25 49.8% −1.5 57.4% 488
54.6%
Komodo 10.3 64-bit 3267 +16 −16 71.2% −135.5 49.2% 1248
Rank Engine Score St Ve S-B
1 Stockfish_5_x64_modern 20.5/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =1==01=========================0=110==== 399.75
2 Velvet-v4.0.0-x86_64-avx2 19.5/40 =0==10=========================1=001==== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 399.75
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2022.06.28, 01:58:17
Latest update: 2022.07.06, 19:03:58
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P, United States
Level: Blitz 15/10
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
Forget about memorization of Opening Theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN3381sdcdY