7950X vs 13900k for chessprogramming

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Dann Corbit, Harvey Williamson

Ras
Posts: 2485
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:19 pm
Full name: Rasmus Althoff

Re: 7950X vs 13900k for chessprogramming

Post by Ras »

CornfedForever wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:26 pmWhat is frustrating to me....as someone looking for a NEW system and not wanting to go thru the hassle of building it...
Don't buy pre-builts. You'll get ripped off. If you don't want to assemble the PC yourself, spec out the complete system right down to case fans and thermal paste, then have a local PC shop assemble it for you. Or hire some IT student to do the job, though that would put the risk of something going wrong on you.
Well, think I saw some paired with the most expensive gaming GPU's...but I really only want a 1060 ti at most...
The 1060 Ti isn't really available as new part, and even if, nobody would build that card into such a prebuilt. However, if all you want to do is chess, you don't need any GPU at all because Ryzen 7000 have a small iGPU that is enough to display a desktop.
Rasmus Althoff
https://www.ct800.net
CornfedForever
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:08 am
Full name: Brian D. Smith

Re: 7950X vs 13900k for chessprogramming

Post by CornfedForever »

Ras wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:27 pm
CornfedForever wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:26 pmWhat is frustrating to me....as someone looking for a NEW system and not wanting to go thru the hassle of building it...
Don't buy pre-builts. You'll get ripped off. If you don't want to assemble the PC yourself, spec out the complete system right down to case fans and thermal paste, then have a local PC shop assemble it for you. Or hire some IT student to do the job, though that would put the risk of something going wrong on you.
Well, think I saw some paired with the most expensive gaming GPU's...but I really only want a 1060 ti at most...
The 1060 Ti isn't really available as new part, and even if, nobody would build that card into such a prebuilt. However, if all you want to do is chess, you don't need any GPU at all because Ryzen 7000 have a small iGPU that is enough to display a desktop.
I know you were trying to be helpful with that...but no, I made that clear - it needs to be prebuilt for me and there are companies that assemble/ship to you. I just don't see any doing it yet for the new Ryzen ships.
I want 'some GPU'...just not 'top of the line'.
Jouni
Posts: 3227
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm

Re: 7950X vs 13900k for chessprogramming

Post by Jouni »

Total draw in ipman bench:

93.583.673 Intel Core i9 13900K ddr5 6000 CL30 32threads
93.038.665 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 32threads
92.761.833 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 32threads
92.188.800 Intel Core i9 13900K ddr5 6000 CL30 32threads
Jouni
smatovic
Posts: 2571
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:18 pm
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Full name: Srdja Matovic

Re: 7950X vs 13900k for chessprogramming

Post by smatovic »

CornfedForever wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:56 pm [...]
I know you were trying to be helpful with that...but no, I made that clear - it needs to be prebuilt for me and there are companies that assemble/ship to you. I just don't see any doing it yet for the new Ryzen ships.
I want 'some GPU'...just not 'top of the line'.
Mixing up pre-built and custom-built here...

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... om-pc.html

there are pre-built systems like form HP/Dell/Lenovo, they might be cheaper but tend to use non-standard parts, and there are custom-built systems with standard PC parts assembled by your PC shop near by or online.

As Ras said, the AMD Ryzen Zen 4 has a iGPU on chip die, 128 shader cores@2.2 GHz, 563 GFLOPS, this is enough for 2K/4K 2D, older 3D games, and maybe to play a game with Lc0 now and then.

--
Srdja