Hans Niemann chosen to lead USA at World Team Championship

[dkappe]

Hans Niemann is the surprise choice to play top board for the six-player US squad at the World Team Championship in Jerusalem on 19-26 November. It will be the 19-year-old’s first event since launching his $100m lawsuit against the world champion, Magnus Carlsen, and others.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ampionship

[syzygy]

Hans Niemann is the surprise choice to play top board for the six-player US squad at the World Team Championship in Jerusalem on 19-26 November. It will be the 19-year-old’s first event since launching his $100m lawsuit against the world champion, Magnus Carlsen, and others.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ampionship

Looks like Norway will not take part.
https://www.chessdom.com/world-team-che ... ship-2022/

[dkappe]

Hans Niemann is the surprise choice to play top board for the six-player US squad at the World Team Championship in Jerusalem on 19-26 November. It will be the 19-year-old’s first event since launching his $100m lawsuit against the world champion, Magnus Carlsen, and others.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ampionship

Looks like Norway will not take part.
https://www.chessdom.com/world-team-che ... ship-2022/

It would be surprising if they did. They’ve only ever competed in one, the 11th World Team Chess Championship in Khanty-Mansiysk, 2017. They finished 9th, ahead of last place Egypt.

[CornfedForever]

Looks like the most recent (2019) iteration of this had the US team as:

1. Swiercz (2655)
2. Sevian (2642)
3. Onischuk (2647)
4. Lenderman (2637)

Not exactly the very top tier in the US at the time.

And yet...for some reason the Guardian has the gall to say "Niemann is nationally ranked only No 8, so it is possible that some of those with higher rating including Hikaru Nakamura, who is among those being sued, and the current US champion, Fabiano Caruana, have declined to play in the same squad as the teenager".

If you check the 2019 FIDE list...Swiercz was (you guessed it) the 8th highest ranked US player at the time. I wonder if at the time the Guardian
had...any 'commentary' about that?

LOL!

I don't think 'top' US players have played there that one in a while...certainly not Naka or Fabi or Wesley

[Ajedrecista]

Hello Brian:

[...]

If you check the 2019 FIDE list...Swiercz was (you guessed it) the 8th highest ranked US player at the time. I wonder if at the time the Guardian
had...any 'commentary' about that?

LOL!

[...]

Chess related articles in The Guardian around February and March of 2019:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/chess?page=16

The link will change over time (page=17, page=18 and so on) as more news come.

The key excerpt from 2019:

[...]

The Champions Challenge ended on 24 February, while the US championship, also in St Louis, starts on 18 March with a prize fund of close to $200,000. The world team championship in Astana, Kazakhstan, is sandwiched between, so USA, who at full strength would have contended for gold with China and Russia, will be represented by a B team.

[...]

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... peed-chess

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

[CornfedForever]

Hello jedrecista,

The World Team Ch for the one before that - 2017, board order:

1. Shankland (2676)
2. Onischuk (2685)
3. Robson (2656)
4. Xiong (2658)

More balanced, but again, none of the Top US players.

The March 2017 list I am looking at has Shankland as the ...8th highest rated US player; I'm not sure what month the rating listed for that tourney was, as Onischuk is slightly higher rated than Sam in the March list.

[Ajedrecista]

Hello Brian:

Hello Ajedrecista,

The World Team Ch for the one before that - 2017, board order:

1. Shankland (2676)
2. Onischuk (2685)
3. Robson (2656)
4. Xiong (2658)

More balanced, but again, none of the Top US players.

The March 2017 list I am looking at has Shankland as the ...8th highest rated US player; I'm not sure what month the rating listed for that tourney was, as Onischuk is slightly higher rated than Sam in the March list.

Shankland with 2676 Elo and Onischuk with 2685 Elo correspond with the June 2017 list, downloable from the FIDE site:

http://ratings.fide.com/download/standard_jun17frl.zip

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ID Number      Name                                                         Fed Sex Tit  WTit OTit           FOA JUN17 Gms K  B-day Flag
13300580       Akobian, Varuzhan                                            USA M   GM                           2673  9   10 1983      
14101025       Onischuk, Alexander                                          USA M   GM                           2685  0   10 1975      
2023970        Robson, Ray                                                  USA M   GM                           2656  0   10 1994      
2004887        Shankland, Samuel L                                          USA M   GM                           2676  0   10 1991      
2047640        Xiong, Jeffery                                               USA M   GM                           2658  13  10 2000      

Which makes sense, because the tournament started on 17th June, 2017:

https://chess-results.com/tnr289296.aspx?lan=1&art=2

The ratings at chess-results are the same than yours:

https://chess-results.com/tnr289296.aspx?lan=1&art=8

By the way, Niemann was 2282 in that list:

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ID Number      Name                                                         Fed Sex Tit  WTit OTit           FOA JUN17 Gms K  B-day Flag
2093596        Niemann, Hans M                                              USA M   FM                           2282  0   20 2003     

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

[CornfedForever]

Hello Brian:

Hello Ajedrecista,

The World Team Ch for the one before that - 2017, board order:

1. Shankland (2676)
2. Onischuk (2685)
3. Robson (2656)
4. Xiong (2658)

More balanced, but again, none of the Top US players.

The March 2017 list I am looking at has Shankland as the ...8th highest rated US player; I'm not sure what month the rating listed for that tourney was, as Onischuk is slightly higher rated than Sam in the March list.

Shankland with 2676 Elo and Onischuk with 2685 Elo correspond with the June 2017 list, downloable from the FIDE site:

http://ratings.fide.com/download/standard_jun17frl.zip

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ID Number      Name                                                         Fed Sex Tit  WTit OTit           FOA JUN17 Gms K  B-day Flag
13300580       Akobian, Varuzhan                                            USA M   GM                           2673  9   10 1983      
14101025       Onischuk, Alexander                                          USA M   GM                           2685  0   10 1975      
2023970        Robson, Ray                                                  USA M   GM                           2656  0   10 1994      
2004887        Shankland, Samuel L                                          USA M   GM                           2676  0   10 1991      
2047640        Xiong, Jeffery                                               USA M   GM                           2658  13  10 2000      

Which makes sense, because the tournament started on 17th June, 2017:

https://chess-results.com/tnr289296.aspx?lan=1&art=2

The ratings at chess-results are the same than yours:

https://chess-results.com/tnr289296.aspx?lan=1&art=8

By the way, Niemann was 2282 in that list:

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ID Number      Name                                                         Fed Sex Tit  WTit OTit           FOA JUN17 Gms K  B-day Flag
2093596        Niemann, Hans M                                              USA M   FM                           2282  0   20 2003     

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

Yes, even the great Gukesh was only rated 2283 at that time. 2732 now...and even nicer 449 rating point jump!