Queen odds? No Rook odds! vs GM, why not?

[S.Taylor]

I would simply love to see what happens if a reputable GM had 6 games vs the strongest machine (or the best Rybka), with the machine giving even QUEEN odds to te GM.
Maybe that would seem bad manners as it is like not resigning, in the mere hope that the opponent will make a stupid blunder. And I would feel it unlikely something would not go wrong in 6 games.
However, to make it more closer to reality, how about just rook odds? EVERYONE is no doubt very sure that the GM would win 6-0.
But _I_ would estimate around 4.5-1.5 to the GM.
Atleast, THIS could be the goal to defeat this.
I would consider 5.5 to be a total victory, however we might be surprised how hard he has to fight for the "expected minimum" of 4.5.
(I'm not saying that the GM SHOULD not win 6-0. Maybe with practice in this setting, it would be easier. I'm also not talking about blitz nor long times, necesarily, But atleast 45 min per game).

[pedrox]

With a rook advantage I can easily win 4.5 of 6 and I am not GM.

[Terry McCracken]

I would simply love to see what happens if a reputable GM had 6 games vs the strongest machine (or the best Rybka), with the machine giving even QUEEN odds to te GM.
Maybe that would seem bad manners as it is like not resigning, in the mere hope that the opponent will make a stupid blunder. And I would feel it unlikely something would not go wrong in 6 games.
However, to make it more closer to reality, how about just rook odds? EVERYONE is no doubt very sure that the GM would win 6-0.
But _I_ would estimate around 4.5-1.5 to the GM.
Atleast, THIS could be the goal to defeat this.
I would consider 5.5 to be a total victory, however we might be surprised how hard he has to fight for the "expected minimum" of 4.5.
(I'm not saying that the GM SHOULD not win 6-0. Maybe with practice in this setting, it would be easier. I'm also not talking about blitz nor long times, necesarily, But atleast 45 min per game).

Are you serious?

[S.Taylor]

Are you serious?

So you think it can not possibly be serious?!

A GM cannot easily overreach himself, thinking it is all too easy?

It's as easy as riding a car for 10 hours without an accident, is it?

[Terry McCracken]

Are you serious?

So you think it can not possibly be serious?!

A GM cannot easily overreach himself, thinking it is all too easy?

It's as easy as riding a car for 10 hours without an accident, is it?

Yes it is easy driving a car for 10 hours without an accident...we had to make such trips up in Northern Ontario all the time.

It is also easy for a GM to crush any program with Night odds let alone a Rook or a Queen.

I can crush any program with Night odds, let alone Rook or preposterous Queen odds.

[Golem]

A GM will never loose a Queen odd match... A 1400 Elo player can win this easily...
A pawn odd is the most a computer can give to a grand master (for 45 minutes games).

[S.Taylor]

Are you serious?

So you think it can not possibly be serious?!

A GM cannot easily overreach himself, thinking it is all too easy?

It's as easy as riding a car for 10 hours without an accident, is it?

Yes it is easy driving a car for 10 hours without an accident...we had to make such trips up in Northern Ontario all the time.

It is also easy for a GM to crush any program with Night odds let alone a Rook or a Queen.

I can crush any program with Night odds, let alone Rook or preposterous Queen odds.

Ah! OK then. So you probably look where you're going then.

[Terry McCracken]

Are you serious?

So you think it can not possibly be serious?!

A GM cannot easily overreach himself, thinking it is all too easy?

It's as easy as riding a car for 10 hours without an accident, is it?

Yes it is easy driving a car for 10 hours without an accident...we had to make such trips up in Northern Ontario all the time.

It is also easy for a GM to crush any program with Night odds let alone a Rook or a Queen.

I can crush any program with Night odds, let alone Rook or preposterous Queen odds.

Ah! OK then. So you probably look where you're going then.

Of course

I wasn't kidding about the 10 hr., drive or anything for that matter.

[bob]

I would simply love to see what happens if a reputable GM had 6 games vs the strongest machine (or the best Rybka), with the machine giving even QUEEN odds to te GM.
Maybe that would seem bad manners as it is like not resigning, in the mere hope that the opponent will make a stupid blunder. And I would feel it unlikely something would not go wrong in 6 games.
However, to make it more closer to reality, how about just rook odds? EVERYONE is no doubt very sure that the GM would win 6-0.
But _I_ would estimate around 4.5-1.5 to the GM.
Atleast, THIS could be the goal to defeat this.
I would consider 5.5 to be a total victory, however we might be surprised how hard he has to fight for the "expected minimum" of 4.5.
(I'm not saying that the GM SHOULD not win 6-0. Maybe with practice in this setting, it would be easier. I'm also not talking about blitz nor long times, necesarily, But atleast 45 min per game).

I believe that with queen odds, it would be 6-0 even against a good IM player, much less a GM. The computers are _not_ that good...

[Terry McCracken]

I would simply love to see what happens if a reputable GM had 6 games vs the strongest machine (or the best Rybka), with the machine giving even QUEEN odds to te GM.
Maybe that would seem bad manners as it is like not resigning, in the mere hope that the opponent will make a stupid blunder. And I would feel it unlikely something would not go wrong in 6 games.
However, to make it more closer to reality, how about just rook odds? EVERYONE is no doubt very sure that the GM would win 6-0.
But _I_ would estimate around 4.5-1.5 to the GM.
Atleast, THIS could be the goal to defeat this.
I would consider 5.5 to be a total victory, however we might be surprised how hard he has to fight for the "expected minimum" of 4.5.
(I'm not saying that the GM SHOULD not win 6-0. Maybe with practice in this setting, it would be easier. I'm also not talking about blitz nor long times, necesarily, But atleast 45 min per game).

I believe that with queen odds, it would be 6-0 even against a good IM player, much less a GM. The computers are _not_ that good...

Why a strong I.M.? An expert should be more than adequate.