Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Be4

[d]1r1b4/5q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/6R1 w - - 0 6
Re1 with evaluation 0.
[d]1r1b4/5q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 b - - 4 17
Bc7

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 7
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bc7

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 7
Now SF says Bxb3 with evaluation 79cp in favor of White. That's at depth 46.
[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/2pPbP2/1BP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 b - - 0 18

Will be away for several hours...

Wonder if SF will switch away from Bxb3 as I let the search run.
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bc7

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 7
Now SF says Bxb3 with evaluation 79cp in favor of White. That's at depth 46.
[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/2pPbP2/1BP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 b - - 0 18

Will be away for several hours...

Wonder if SF will switch away from Bxb3 as I let the search run.
cb3

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 8

I do not believe SF has any advantage, but the point is, did I miss the win again?

Small wonder, if I have to tackle Latin syntax instead of SF moves. :)
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I do not believe SF has any advantage, but the point is, did I miss the win again?

Small wonder, if I have to tackle Latin syntax instead of SF moves. :)
:lol:

I knew in the end somebody else would have to take the resonsibility.
I feel honoured that it could be me this time.
:)
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Sorry for the question, but... how can I embed the game with the board within the post ?
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bc7

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/B1pPbP2/1rP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 7
Now SF says Bxb3 with evaluation 79cp in favor of White. That's at depth 46.
[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/2pPbP2/1BP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 b - - 0 18

Will be away for several hours...

Wonder if SF will switch away from Bxb3 as I let the search run.
cb3

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 8

I do not believe SF has any advantage, but the point is, did I miss the win again?

Small wonder, if I have to tackle Latin syntax instead of SF moves. :)
I think you may miss the draw... :wink:

Miguel
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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michiguel wrote: I think you may miss the draw... :wink:
No, Miguel, Lyudmil for sure will start it all over again before that.
:)
If I just don't find the time by myself again, would you be so kind to bear the blame next time if it shouldn't work neither?
:)
Here's SF's output after some forward- backward:

1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 120315 64 POPCNT:

54.Raa1 Bb6 55.Qe2 Rc8 56.Qb5 Qe6 57.Rac1 Qc4 58.Qd7+ Kg8 59.Rcd1 a4 60.Ra1 Qc6 61.Qxc6 Bxc6 62.Rec1 Be8 63.c4 Ba5 64.Kg3 Bd2 65.Rd1 Bb4 66.c5 Kf7 67.Ba3 Bxa3 68.Rxa3 Ke7 69.Kf3 Bc6+ 70.Ke3 Rd8 71.Rd2 Ke6 72.Kd3 h4 73.Kc4 h3 74.Ra1 Bd5+ 75.Kd3
+/- (0.93) Depth: 39/66 00:06:48 7090MN
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Ponti wrote:Sorry for the question, but... how can I embed the game with the board within the post ?
Please see http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 72&t=46462
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: cb3

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 8

I do not believe SF has any advantage, but the point is, did I miss the win again?

Small wonder, if I have to tackle Latin syntax instead of SF moves. :)
Rather than your struggle with Latin, Occam's Razor suggests the initial position is simply a draw. I see no reason to believe you "missed" a win. SF's evaluation was never once in your favor.

SF plays Raa1 with 87cp for White:
[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/1B3Q1K/R3R3 b - - 1 19

If you were to offer a draw now, perhaps SF would accept. :wink:
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: cb3

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/RB3Q1K/4R3 w - - 0 8

I do not believe SF has any advantage, but the point is, did I miss the win again?

Small wonder, if I have to tackle Latin syntax instead of SF moves. :)
Rather than your struggle with Latin, Occam's Razor suggests the initial position is simply a draw. I see no reason to believe you "missed" a win. SF's evaluation was never once in your favor.

SF plays Raa1 with 87cp for White:
[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p3PpPp/3PbP2/1pP5/1B3Q1K/R3R3 b - - 1 19

If you were to offer a draw now, perhaps SF would accept. :wink:
Occam's what?

Bd5

[d]1r6/2b2q1k/6p1/p2bPpPp/3P1P2/1pP5/1B3Q1K/R3R3 w - - 0 9

No draw here already, sorry.
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