The value of the Rook should be 4.8 to 4.9 NOT 5.0

[Chessqueen]

The 2 Rooks has not won a single game yet either playing with White side or with the Black side. So far my perception is correct that the value of the Rook is not greater than 4.8 to 4.9, since 2 Knights + Bishop = 9.0 points seems to outperform the 2Rooks
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3535"]
[Time "07:44:06"]
[WhiteElo "3535"]
[TimeControl "300+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2nbk1n1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R3K2R w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "132"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. c4 d5 2. cxd5 Nf6 3. g4 Nxd5 4. g5 f5 5. gxf6 exf6 6. e3 f5 7. Rc1 Bf6
8. Ke2 Nd6 9. b4 Kd7 10. Rb1 b5 11. Rhc1 Nc4 12. Rb3 c6 13. d3 Ncb6 14. Rc2
g5 15. Kf1 Kc7 16. h4 g4 17. e4 Ne7 18. h5 Bd4 19. f3 gxf3 20. Rf2 Bxf2 21.
Kxf2 Kd6 22. Kxf3 h6 23. Rb1 a6 24. Ke3 Nd7 25. Rb3 Ke5 26. Ra3 Nf6 27. Kf3
Kd4 28. Rxa6 Kxd3 29. exf5 Nxh5 30. a4 bxa4 31. Rxa4 Nxf5 32. Kg4 Nhg7 33.
Ra5 Nd4 34. Ra7 Ngf5 35. Kh5 Kc4 36. Rb7 Kc3 37. Kg6 Nb5 38. Rb6 Nbd4 39.
Rb8 Kc2 40. Rb6 Kb3 41. Rb8 Kc4 42. Rb6 Kd5 43. Ra6 Kc4 44. Rb6 Kd5 45. Rb7
Kd6 46. Ra7 Kd5 47. Ra6 Ke4 48. Ra5 Kf4 49. Ra1 Ke4 50. Re1+ Kd5 51. Rc1
Kd6 52. Re1 Kc7 53. Ra1 Nc2 54. Rc1 Nfd4 55. Kxh6 Kb6 56. Rg1 Ne3 57. Rc1
Nec2 58. Kh7 Kc7 59. Kg8 Kd6 60. Kh7 Kd5 61. b5 cxb5 62. Rb1 b4 63. Kg6 Ke5
64. Kg7 b3 65. Kh7 Na3 66. Rxb3 Nxb3 {Insufficient material} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[MOBMAT]

How about trying out endgame positions with 7-man TB lookup?
configure a board with every possible KBNNKRR legal position, look up the result and keep a tally.
Sure, that is a lot of positions, but the problems could be farmed out to multiple instances.
The result should give you interesting results. If 3v2 is an advantage for the 3 side, then the stats should reflect that.

vince

[Chessqueen]

How about trying out endgame positions with 7-man TB lookup?
configure a board with every possible KBNNKRR legal position, look up the result and keep a tally.
Sure, that is a lot of positions, but the problems could be farmed out to multiple instances.
The result should give you interesting results. If 3v2 is an advantage for the 3 side, then the stats should reflect that.

vince

Great idea do you have many positions that I can test? The only reason to start from the initial position is because certain endgame positions depending where the King is, it benefit the side that has its king close to its pieces. Here is a great example, as powerful as the Queen is, it can NOT win because after it placed the White King in check, the 2Knights were too close to the White King therefore, not all endgame position are equal. You can test this position if you want!
[pgn]
[Date "2023.01.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Crystal.4.0.x64.avx2"]
[Black "Crystal.4.0.x64.avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3490"]
[Time "18:00:49"]
[WhiteElo "3490"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "5k2/8/8/4N3/8/5N2/8/2q2K2 w - - 0 1"][/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

So far the 3 minor pieces have 2 wins and the Rooks Zero win. I understand that Bishop in some top engines has the value of 3.2 and Knight 3.0 or 3.1, but when you add 2Knights +Bishop it only equal to 9.4 Vs 2Rooks = 10.0 Points, therefore, the value of each Rook should not be greater than 4.7. and that is the reason why in most Queen Vs 2 Rooks the Queen win 65% of the times
NOTE: There are certain positions that you can squeeze a win with 2Rooks Vs Queen ==>

[pgn][Event "2 Rooks Vs 2Knights + Bishop"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Berserk-10-x64-avx2"]
[Black "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "3525"]
[Time "07:44:06"]
[WhiteElo "3495"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2nbk1n1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R3K2R w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "137"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. c4 e5 2. e3 d5 3. d3 dxc4 4. dxc4 Be7 5. Ke2 Nf6 6. g4 a5 7. f4 Bc5 8.
h3 b6 9. Rad1 Ne7 10. Rd3 Ng6 11. f5 e4 12. Rd2 Ne5 13. Rhd1 Nfd7 14. b3 h6
15. Rd5 Ke7 16. Rf1 Nf3 17. Rxf3 exf3+ 18. Kxf3 Bd6 19. Kf2 Kf6 20. Rd1 Ne5
21. Ke2 Kg5 22. Kf2 Kh4 23. Kg2 a4 24. f6 g6 25. c5 Bxc5 26. bxa4 c6 27.
Re1 Bb4 28. Rd1 Bc5 29. Re1 Kg5 30. Rf1 Bd6 31. Rd1 Bc7 32. Rc1 Kxf6 33.
Kf1 Kg5 34. Rc3 Bd6 35. Rb3 Bc5 36. a3 Kf6 37. Rc3 Be7 38. Rb3 Bd8 39. Kf2
Ke7 40. Ke2 Kd7 41. Kd1 Kc7 42. Rb4 Be7 43. Re4 Bd6 44. Ke2 Kb7 45. Rd4 Be7
46. Kd1 Kc8 47. Re4 Bd6 48. Kc2 Kd7 49. Rd4 Ke7 50. Kd1 Bc5 51. Rf4 Bxa3
52. Ke2 c5 53. Rf1 Ke6 54. Kd2 Bb4+ 55. Kc1 c4 56. Kc2 Bc5 57. e4 Bb4 58.
Kc1 Nc6 59. Rd1 Ke5 60. Rf1 Nd4 61. Rxf7 Kxe4 62. h4 c3 63. Rf2 Kd3 64. Kb1
c2+ 65. Rxc2 Nxc2 66. Ka2 Kc3 67. a5 bxa5 68. g5 h5 69. Kb1 {White resigns}[/pgn]

[MOBMAT]

How about trying out endgame positions with 7-man TB lookup?
configure a board with every possible KBNNKRR legal position, look up the result and keep a tally.
Sure, that is a lot of positions, but the problems could be farmed out to multiple instances.
The result should give you interesting results. If 3v2 is an advantage for the 3 side, then the stats should reflect that.

vince

Great idea do you have many positions that I can test? The only reason to start from the initial position is because certain endgame positions depending where the King is, it benefit the side that has its king close to its pieces. Here is a great example, as powerful as the Queen is, it can NOT win because after it placed the White King in check, the 2Knights were too close to the White King therefore, not all endgame position are equal. You can test this position if you want!
[pgn]
[Date "2023.01.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Crystal.4.0.x64.avx2"]
[Black "Crystal.4.0.x64.avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3490"]
[Time "18:00:49"]
[WhiteElo "3490"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "5k2/8/8/4N3/8/5N2/8/2q2K2 w - - 0 1"][/pgn]

You are looking to answer a specic question, is BNN better than RR. This is an "average" type answer when not applying any other criteria, therefore, the only way to estimate a value is to evaluate a LOT of positions that can occur in a game. If we just take the pieces on their own merit and avoid helper pieces like pawns, there are GODs for the outcome of every possible KBNNKRR position...the 7-man end game tables. They are way to big to store on most hardware, so, having access to a cloud service provides a way to score such positions.
If "I" were doing it, I would write some Python script and use the python chess library to control things, set up boards to create every position possible using the 7 pieces one at a time. check for legality (kings can't be touching, etc), then query the cloud server for the answer, then store the results. To save time, one could also not have positions where there are immediate captures or where the king in check with pins. But in doing so, that already taints the scoring.
Not an easy question to answer. Using only a handful of games or positions isn't going to be definitive, IMHO.

Vince

[Uri Blass]

The 2 Rooks has not won a single game yet either playing with White side or with the Black side. So far my perception is correct that the value of the Rook is not greater than 4.8 to 4.9, since 2 Knights + Bishop = 9.0 points seems to outperform the 2Rooks

Or maybe 2 knights+Bishop=2*3.4+3.5=10.3 points.

[Chessqueen]

This is the 3rd win for the 3 minors pieces. the 2Rooks have zero win so far
[pgn][Event "2Rooks Vs 3 minor pieces"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3535"]
[Time "13:11:00"]
[WhiteElo "3535"]
[TimeControl "1200+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r3k2r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/2N1KNB1 w kq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "254"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. f3 d6 2. d4 b5 3. e4 f6 4. d5 Kd7 5. Ne2 c6 6. Nd4 cxd5 7. exd5 Rhc8 8.
Ne3 b4 9. Kd1 g6 10. Bf2 Rc5 11. Kc1 a5 12. Be1 Rg8 13. Nb3 Rb5 14. Nd4 Rc5
15. b3 h5 16. f4 Rh8 17. h3 Rhc8 18. Bd2 Rb8 19. Kb2 Rg8 20. a3 Rb8 21. Be1
Rb7 22. a4 Rb8 23. Kc1 Rh8 24. Kd2 Rg8 25. Kd3 Rb8 26. Bd2 Rh8 27. Be1 Rhc8
28. g3 Rg8 29. Ke4 Rgc8 30. h4 Ke8 31. Kd3 Kd7 32. f5 gxf5 33. Ne2 e5 34.
dxe6+ Kxe6 35. Nf4+ Kf7 36. Nxh5 Re5 37. Bf2 Rc3+ 38. Kd2 d5 39. Nf4 Rc6
40. Nd1 Re4 41. Kd3 Re8 42. Ne3 Rec8 43. Nxf5 Rc3+ 44. Kd4 Rd8 45. Ne3 Rc7
46. Kd3 Rc3+ 47. Kd2 Rc6 48. g4 Re8 49. Nf5 Re5 50. Be3 Re8 51. Ne2 Kf8 52.
Neg3 Rec8 53. Nd4 Ra6 54. Nh5 Re8 55. Ke2 Kg8 56. Nf4 Kf7 57. Kd3 Rc8 58.
Kd2 Re8 59. Ke2 Raa8 60. Nf5 d4 61. Nxd4 Rac8 62. Kd2 Rh8 63. h5 Rhd8 64.
Nd3 Rd6 65. Nf5 Rdc6 66. Ne1 Rd8+ 67. Bd4 Rdc8 68. Ne3 Rd8 69. Nf3 Ke6 70.
Kd3 Ra6 71. Nh4 Rf8 72. Ke4 Rg8 73. Nhf5 Rc6 74. Kf3 Ra6 75. Nc4 Rb8 76.
Ke4 Rc8 77. Nfe3 Rg8 78. Bb6 Rg5 79. Kf3 Rg8 80. Bxa5 Rb8 81. Nf5 Ra7 82.
Bb6 Rd7 83. Nfe3 Rg7 84. Kf4 Rg5 85. Bc7 Rb7 86. Bd6 Rg8 87. Bc5 Rd8 88.
Bb6 Rh8 89. a5 Rhb8 90. Nf5 Rd7 91. Nb2 Rd2 92. Nd3 Rd1 93. Ne3 Rd2 94.
Nc5+ Kf7 95. Na6 Re8 96. Nxb4 Rf2+ 97. Kg3 Rd2 98. Nd3 Re2 99. Kf4 Ra8 100.
b4 Rb8 101. Bc5 Ra8 102. Ke4 Ra6 103. Nf4 Rd2 104. Bb6 Ra8 105. c4 Re8+
106. Kf3 Ra2 107. b5 Rc8 108. Nfd5 Ra3 109. Kf4 Ra2 110. a6 Rb8 111. Ke4
Re8+ 112. Kf3 Rf8 113. a7 Ke6 114. Bc5 Rd8 115. b6 Rd7 116. Ke4 Ra5 117.
Bd4 Kd6 118. Kf5 Kc6 119. h6 Kb7 120. Bxf6 Rf7 121. Kg6 Rf8 122. h7 Rc5
123. g5 Ka6 124. Nc7+ Kb7 125. h8=Q Rxh8 126. Bxh8 Ra5 127. Bd4 Kc6 {Black
resigns} *[/pgn]

[Uri Blass]

[pgn][Event "*"]
[Site "*"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Time "23:38:35"]
[Round "*"]
[White "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Black "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[PlyCount "176"]
[FEN "1nbqkbnr/p2ppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R2QKBNR w KQk - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.c4 {-0.7/30 10135 78026185} e5 {-0.7/28 3300 25626432} 2.a3 {-0.7/32 4450 34390451} Nf6 {-0.7/26 3352 25828578}
3.e3 {-0.8/31 4474 34505355} Be7 {-0.7/28 4694 34307338} 4.Qa4 {-0.7/27 4077 29165522} Nc6 {-0.9/23 1024 7214952}
5.Ne2 {-0.8/26 1490 10125435} Bb7 {-0.8/23 1453 9914176} 6.Nc3 {-0.8/25 2144 14614987} e4 {-0.9/28 5912 39496044}
7.Be2 {-0.8/24 2156 15078210} Qb8 {-0.9/25 1400 9753043} 8.f4 {-0.9/28 1847 12400322} exf3 {-0.9/30 2094 14230973}
9.Bxf3 {-0.9/26 1969 13160488} h5 {-0.9/24 1620 10646561} 10.O-O-O {-0.8/24 1410 9465541} Ng4 {-0.9/24 1620 10606787}
11.Bxg4 {-0.8/24 2539 16981619} hxg4 {-0.9/26 1587 10607675} 12.d4 {-0.8/25 2141 14214723} Nd8 {-0.9/26 3789 24636791}
13.Rd2 {-0.8/28 6575 42585746} Ne6 {-1.0/23 1478 9776159} 14.Kb1 {-0.9/27 2163 14923786} Ng5 {-1.0/27 1686 11543756}
15.d5 {-1.0/26 3693 25269866} Bf6 {-1.1/26 2408 16629332} 16.Qb4 {-1.0/29 4268 27661231} Be5 {-1.0/28 1882 12985556}
17.Rhd1 {-0.9/27 6322 41079965} Bc8 {-1.2/22 2191 14266167} 18.c5 {-0.9/24 1254 8235305} Qxb4 {-1.1/24 1735 10997408}
19.axb4 {-0.9/27 1518 10083746} a6 {-1.1/23 2070 13135868} 20.Kc2 {-0.9/33 10495 65196392} Rxh2 {-1.1/23 1854 11423217}
21.Kb3 {-1.0/25 1232 8085532} g3 {-1.0/26 2491 15463551} 22.Rc2 {-0.9/22 630 3886169} Rh6 {-1.1/26 6753 41372868}
23.Rf1 {-0.9/25 647 3915843} Bb7 {-1.1/24 1456 8723474} 24.e4 {-0.8/24 780 4808574} Rh4 {-0.9/37 20092 123507941}
25.Re2 {-0.8/23 681 4184329} Bxc3 {-1.3/23 1276 8393649} 26.bxc3 {-1.2/25 2388 16048301} Nxe4 {-1.3/21 718 4469680}
27.c4 {-1.3/22 1677 11028193} f6 {-1.4/23 870 5543214} 28.Kc2 {-1.5/25 3044 20977315} Kd8 {-1.6/22 707 4501487}
29.Kd3 {-1.5/17 160 972881} Nf2+ {-1.5/29 2035 13538515} 30.Kc3 {-1.4/19 305 1816066} f5 {-1.5/22 1719 11516634}
31.Rfxf2 {-1.6/25 2635 17664565} gxf2 {-1.6/22 579 3433686} 32.Rxf2 {-1.4/18 167 1043870} g6 {-1.7/23 693 4314047}
33.Kd3 {-1.8/26 1993 13463507} Rg4 {-1.9/22 981 6881465} 34.Kc3 {-2.2/22 1197 8804814} Rg3+ {-2.3/21 807 5749624}
35.Kd4 {-2.0/25 1004 7376911} Rb3 {-2.6/28 1791 13441680} 36.g4 {-1.9/22 110 807669} fxg4 {-2.8/22 475 3382057}
37.Rf6 {-2.8/24 1748 13837808} Rxb4 {-2.9/24 1151 9141110} 38.Rxg6 {-2.9/21 219 1722301} a5 {-3.0/26 743 5658859}
39.Rg8+ {-2.8/24 883 7482257} Kc7 {-3.1/24 901 6974284} 40.Rxg4 {-3.0/27 537 4231034} Ba6 {-3.2/30 2141 19090107}
41.Kc3 {-3.0/26 345 2698718} Rb1 {-3.2/28 382 3343379} 42.Rg6 {-3.3/34 1409 13138304} Rc1+ {-3.3/32 642 6060762}
43.Kb2 {-3.2/28 392 3774885} Rxc4 {-3.5/32 728 7804205} 44.Rxa6 {-3.2/30 505 4718499} Rxc5 {-3.7/35 1071 11847810}
45.Ra7+ {-3.7/45 2313 26619159} Kd6 {-3.7/32 1325 15771234} 46.Kb3 {-3.7/52 620 7279289} Rxd5 {-3.9/45 676 7082341}
47.Ra6+ {-4.0/30 2568 30927352} Ke5 {-4.6/33 4347 51334956} 48.Rg6 {-4.4/43 669 7652139} Kd4 {-4.6/32 490 5607642}
49.Rg1 {-4.4/32 524 6023549} Kc5 {-4.7/24 371 4672793} 50.Ka4 {-4.6/27 1647 19939026} Kc6 {-4.8/31 851 10355627}
51.Rg8 {-5.3/29 1012 11454734} Rc5 {-5.2/20 576 6462049} 52.Rc8+ {-5.3/24 320 3071985} Kb6 {-5.3/22 573 6164407}
53.Rd8 {-5.3/28 510 5285822} Kc7 {-5.6/32 780 8395784} 54.Rh8 {-5.3/30 514 4928491} d5 {-5.6/26 683 7126706}
55.Kb3 {-5.3/37 879 9140786} Rc4 {-5.6/34 776 7460900} 56.Rh6 {-5.3/40 554 5139986} a4+ {-6.4/30 3096 34782963}
57.Kb2 {-5.3/39 716 6544542} d4 {-6.6/24 516 5389717} 58.Rf6 {-6.7/31 3434 37859997} Rc6 {-7.1/31 609 5715300}
59.Rf1 {-6.7/35 703 6995432} Kd6 {-7.1/55 1513 16763240} 60.Ra1 {-7.6/24 1723 19447215} Ra6 {-7.2/35 1122 11225093}
61.Ka3 {-6.7/23 200 1927625} Rb6 {-8.3/22 570 5045094} 62.Rd1 {-8.9/23 1786 19790638} Kd5 {-8.3/29 631 6128786}
63.Kxa4 {-10.2/21 1154 11977891} Kc4 {-10.0/22 1176 14092092} 64.Rc1+ {-10.2/22 200 2068246} Kd3 {-13.2/23 2947 36449477}
65.Ka5 {-10.5/22 1671 20836737} Rb8 {-13.2/20 320 4076659} 66.Rc7 {-12.8/21 985 12314959} Kd2 {-13.2/20 578 7488012}
67.Rd7 {-13.6/19 1145 15016410} d3 {-15.0/16 554 7046017} 68.Rd6 {-14.4/19 1029 13518739} Rb1 {-88.0/19 803 10570507}
69.Ka4 {-88.0/24 767 10961058} Kc2 {M+56/27 595 6213087} 70.Rc6+ {-88.0/25 1190 14246526} Kd1 {M+37/36 734 7306879}
71.Ka3 {-88.0/25 699 8484939} d2 {M+23/37 646 6994516} 72.Rc8 {M-36/30 1280 15156684} Ke2 {M+18/34 806 11222414}
73.Re8+ {M-47/22 355 4246691} Kf3 {M+17/35 2270 46831802} 74.Rf8+ {M-17/33 720 11502046} Ke4 {M+16/36 542 9421089}
75.Re8+ {M-15/35 402 5464092} Kf5 {M+15/33 1877 36263070} 76.Rf8+ {M-14/37 437 6504009} Ke6 {M+15/33 501 8711631}
77.Rd8 {M-13/35 748 11403214} d1=Q {M+13/32 1023 22171312} 78.Rxd1 {M-12/38 1160 18977730} Rxd1 {M+12/32 634 13459471}
79.Kb4 {M-11/34 664 11121956} Kd5 {M+10/30 1270 30143975} 80.Kc3 {M-10/33 629 9837007} Kc5 {M+9/56 3041 73499379}
81.Kc2 {M-8/45 492 7085503} Rd5 {M+8/74 198 4638445} 82.Kc3 {M-7/41 586 8585517} Kb5 {M+7/105 313 6286124}
83.Kb2 {M-6/211 604 11561195} Kc4 {M+6/242 385 12360261} 84.Kc2 {M-5/245 194 6715705} Kb4 {M+5/245 129 4462660}
85.Kb2 {M-4/245 32 220701} Rc5 {M+4/245 33 151902} 86.Ka1 {M-3/245 29 97623} Kb3 {M+3/245 30 252202}
87.Kb1 {M-2/245 28 36026} Rc4 {M+2/245 28 36321} 88.Ka1 {M-1/245 27 3430} Rc1# {M+1/245 33 32585}
0-1
[/pgn]

[Uri Blass]

[pgn][Event "*"]
[Site "*"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Time "23:51:46"]
[Round "*"]
[White "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Black "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Termination "repetition"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[PlyCount "157"]
[FEN "1nbqkbnr/2pppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R2QKBNR w KQk - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.a4 {+0.2/30 3255 25980187} e5 {+0.2/31 8570 64004612} 2.c3 {+0.3/27 4804 37069330} Nf6 {+0.1/26 1310 9957541}
3.a5 {+0.2/26 1352 10165416} Na6 {+0.3/32 11861 86489224} 4.e3 {+0.2/29 6583 47311817} c5 {+0.1/28 4525 31136673}
5.Qb3 {+0.2/30 6962 47253063} Bd6 {+0.0/27 1198 8257799} 6.Bc4 {+0.2/27 1086 7589018} Bc7 {+0.1/29 1756 11845183}
7.Bxf7+ {+0.2/29 1368 9276470} Ke7 {+0.0/30 1582 10869812} 8.Bd5 {+0.2/30 2285 15619661} Nxd5 {+0.1/31 1897 13191233}
9.Qxd5 {+0.0/34 2232 15149677} Qg8 {+0.1/34 2386 16844840} 10.Qxg8 {+0.0/30 1734 11348205} Rxg8 {+0.0/32 1637 11787849}
11.d3 {+0.0/37 1362 9299450} d5 {+0.0/30 1240 8684508} 12.Ne2 {+0.0/33 1342 8608006} Bd7 {+0.0/31 1294 8815064}
13.O-O {+0.2/35 8520 55103280} Rb8 {+0.0/29 1539 10487205} 14.Ra2 {+0.2/24 919 6649581} Bf5 {+0.1/28 4464 29856764}
15.Rd1 {+0.3/28 1752 12223744} c4 {+0.2/25 1349 9149581} 16.Nc1 {+0.3/25 1313 9555934} Bg6 {+0.2/27 1369 8971596}
17.f3 {+0.3/25 1862 12795593} Bf7 {+0.2/27 2520 16912507} 18.h4 {+0.1/31 8454 55487094} h5 {+0.2/31 7391 48166992}
19.dxc4 {+0.2/29 2673 18422085} dxc4 {+0.0/25 974 6350440} 20.Ne2 {+0.1/29 905 5783025} Nc5 {+0.1/33 2272 15403973}
21.f4 {+0.2/31 1332 8911637} Ra8 {+0.1/31 1461 9761138} 22.fxe5 {+0.2/31 1621 10825054} Bxe5 {+0.1/28 1213 7953428}
23.Nf4 {+0.2/29 1503 9770557} Ra7 {+0.1/31 1577 9997123} 24.Kf1 {+0.1/31 9263 57630886} Bd6 {+0.1/28 3842 23780386}
25.Ke2 {+0.2/27 961 5965189} Kd7 {+0.1/28 932 5693374} 26.a6 {+0.1/30 1164 7457338} Rxa6 {+0.1/29 1374 9020776}
27.Rxa6 {+0.1/34 1252 8392287} Nxa6 {+0.1/43 1230 8014450} 28.e4 {+0.1/31 1255 7861232} Kc6 {+0.1/34 1608 10605879}
29.Ke3 {+0.0/29 1451 8698751} Nc5 {+0.1/44 1467 9615556} 30.Ra1 {+0.0/29 921 5847380} Kb7 {+0.0/50 1226 7929696}
31.Ra5 {+0.0/41 931 5964096} g6 {+0.0/49 1355 8483005} 32.Ra1 {+0.0/39 1073 6576771} Nd7 {+0.0/47 1299 8039913}
33.Nd5 {+0.0/42 980 6210573} Be5 {+0.0/49 1464 9007873} 34.Rf1 {+0.0/42 1079 6875145} Be8 {+0.0/39 1316 7985258}
35.Ra1 {+0.0/47 1320 8083175} Bf7 {+0.0/45 1294 8102702} 36.Rf1 {+0.0/45 1000 6339554} Be8 {+0.0/39 1389 8818294}
37.Rd1 {+0.0/40 999 6304950} Bf7 {+0.0/49 1433 9009432} 38.Ra1 {+0.0/42 1321 8628069} Bg7 {+0.0/33 1140 7174272}
39.Ra5 {+0.0/43 1051 6920481} Be5 {+0.0/47 1176 7318767} 40.Ra1 {+0.0/48 849 5458933} Bg7 {+0.0/45 1088 6890646}
41.Ke2 {+0.0/61 5634 36899613} Ne5 {+0.0/45 3134 20610549} 42.Ra5 {+0.0/30 262 1606030} Be8 {+0.0/39 674 3871904}
43.Rc5 {+0.0/35 470 2696145} Bd7 {+0.0/53 873 4952537} 44.Rc7+ {+0.0/39 573 3282155} Kb8 {+0.0/44 1435 8666188}
45.Rc5 {+0.0/40 633 3570962} Bc6 {+0.0/46 867 4755488} 46.Kd2 {+0.0/38 612 3928358} Bf8 {+0.0/36 894 5496721}
47.Ra5 {+0.0/37 677 3945827} Bh6+ {+0.0/39 901 5766625} 48.Ke2 {+0.0/42 1394 8748177} Kb7 {+0.0/41 896 5832483}
49.Nb4 {+0.0/43 638 4169137} Bf4 {+0.0/46 1622 11247422} 50.Nxc6 {+0.0/47 690 4484687} Kxc6 {+0.0/46 1670 11463333}
51.Ra6+ {+0.0/42 995 6773515} Kb7 {+0.0/48 1354 9157980} 52.Re6 {+0.0/42 749 5130147} Kc7 {+0.0/42 1256 9010455}
53.Kf2 {+0.0/39 929 6223097} Nd3+ {+0.0/44 932 6557601} 54.Kf1 {+0.0/52 855 5812057} Bc1 {+0.0/41 897 6307882}
55.Rxg6 {+0.1/31 871 6979045} Bxb2 {+0.0/41 2110 16744879} 56.Rg8 {+0.0/35 840 6603850} Bxc3 {+0.0/41 669 4952652}
57.Ke2 {+0.0/35 2677 22733221} Bd4 {+0.0/39 682 5526740} 58.g4 {+0.0/34 492 3742379} Nb4 {+0.0/37 849 7205585}
59.gxh5 {+0.0/40 778 6690568} c3 {+0.0/40 909 7972000} 60.Rg3 {+0.0/43 1081 9765759} Kb6 {+0.0/44 1174 9987474}
61.h6 {+0.0/42 819 6633379} c2 {+0.0/39 826 6646538} 62.Kd2 {+0.0/46 869 7591418} Bb2 {+0.0/43 861 6858874}
63.Rg1 {+0.0/46 889 7461830} Kb5 {+0.0/56 914 7189334} 64.Rc1 {+0.0/47 926 7803163} Bxc1+ {+0.0/44 2942 23591989}
65.Kxc1 {+0.0/53 815 6622568} Kc4 {+0.0/43 642 5592780} 66.Kb2 {+0.0/42 2138 17757483} Kd3 {+0.0/42 629 4759613}
67.h7 {+0.0/49 670 5085674} Na2 {+0.0/42 648 4996426} 68.Kxa2 {+0.0/50 681 6337108} c1=Q {+0.0/53 1028 9911664}
69.h8=Q {+0.0/49 721 7140716} Qc4+ {+0.0/46 739 7739442} 70.Ka3 {+0.0/42 730 7330490} Qa6+ {+0.0/49 1056 11557704}
71.Kb4 {+0.0/49 828 10043426} Qb6+ {+0.0/51 703 7565888} 72.Ka4 {+0.0/51 736 8196506} Qa6+ {+0.0/47 765 8205021}
73.Kb4 {+0.0/66 781 8892741} Qb6+ {+0.0/58 679 7359522} 74.Ka4 {+0.0/52 1009 11973811} Qa7+ {+0.0/57 876 9767615}
75.Kb5 {+0.0/51 1067 12792641} Qb7+ {+0.0/57 924 10051985} 76.Ka5 {+0.0/53 1050 11801236} Qa7+ {+0.0/56 942 10529411}
77.Kb5 {+0.0/60 1716 21411832} Qb7+ {+0.0/71 1073 12707983} 78.Ka5 {+0.0/55 1521 19639090} Qa7+ {+0.0/74 5500 65246935}
79.Kb5 {+0.0/72 1261 13728865} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]

[Uri Blass]

[pgn][Event "*"]
[Site "*"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Time "23:57:11"]
[Round "*"]
[White "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Black "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Termination "repetition"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/p1p1p1p1/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RN1QKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.e3 {+0.5/19 8840 3960632} Nd7 {+0.4/18 10724 3244889} 2.Bd3 {+0.4/18 1843 968240} Ne5 {+0.4/19 1073 971950}
3.Bb5+ {+0.5/17 1291 559488} c6 {+0.4/19 1334 1776794} 4.Ba4 {+0.6/18 2380 1541707} Qd5 {+0.5/21 1436 2900678}
5.f3 {+0.6/19 1494 1828716} Nc4 {+0.3/24 3069 11917917} 6.Bb3 {+0.4/20 4611 4275640} Qc5 {+0.2/23 1181 5325616}
7.Nc3 {+0.4/20 1556 1427883} Nf6 {+0.2/23 1403 6165804} 8.Qe2 {+0.3/23 11740 13219648} Nb6 {+0.3/23 2137 2306235}
9.d4 {+0.3/29 9501 52053775} Qa5 {+0.2/22 1902 10353166} 10.O-O-O {+0.3/22 1152 6476196} e6 {+0.2/25 1890 11110609}
11.e4 {+0.2/26 1445 8735865} Ba6 {+0.0/31 3316 19112917} 12.Qf2 {+0.0/29 4191 27166990} Nc4 {-0.1/29 5917 38462123}
13.Na4 {-0.1/28 3217 21082368} O-O-O {-0.1/30 3670 24412806} 14.h4 {-0.1/31 2590 17895916} Nd7 {+0.0/36 6528 43329747}
15.Ne2 {+0.0/32 1709 11641054} Ndb6 {+0.0/32 1010 7060621} 16.Nec3 {+0.0/33 1269 8417908} Bb4 {+0.0/36 1664 11902036}
17.f4 {+0.0/31 1367 8895150} c5 {+0.0/38 1451 10838674} 18.a3 {+0.0/35 1869 12223597} Nxa3 {+0.0/39 1908 14615020}
19.dxc5 {+0.0/35 2087 15338223} Nxa4 {+0.0/36 1668 12533520} 20.Nxa4 {+0.0/41 1398 9665825} Bb5 {+0.0/44 1613 12611227}
21.c3 {+0.0/43 1565 11673100} Bxa4 {+0.0/38 1545 11647270} 22.cxb4 {+0.0/42 1261 9134186} Qxb4 {+0.0/44 1759 12781719}
23.Bxa4 {+0.0/45 2199 15920970} Qxa4 {+0.0/45 4212 29695982} 24.bxa3 {+0.0/41 1431 10207921} Qxa3+ {+0.0/50 2334 16534513}
25.Qb2 {+0.0/42 1475 10621236} Qe3+ {+0.0/43 1946 14472416} 26.Kc2 {+0.0/63 1378 9316677} Rxd1 {+0.0/48 3127 23925746}
27.Rxd1 {+0.0/41 1341 9591135} Qxe4+ {+0.0/44 1159 8937454} 28.Kb3 {+0.0/44 1153 9019651} Qb7+ {+0.0/49 1856 15294945}
29.Ka2 {+0.0/54 1238 10249455} Qxb2+ {+0.0/49 1717 14564579} 30.Kxb2 {+0.0/41 710 6357098} Rxh4 {+0.0/46 3533 32499713}
31.g3 {+0.0/49 1277 11443188} Rg4 {+0.0/47 1467 13556085} 32.Rd6 {+0.0/46 1166 10950548} Rxg3 {+0.0/46 1499 15158038}
33.Rxe6 {+0.0/46 1211 12507311} Kb7 {+0.0/40 1265 13680518} 34.f5 {+0.0/43 1230 13922040} Rg5 {+0.0/42 1654 18598207}
35.Kc3 {+0.0/43 1121 11426452} Rxf5 {+0.0/40 979 9347909} 36.Re7+ {+0.0/42 1321 13410105} Kc6 {+0.0/42 1112 12021402}
37.Rxg7 {+0.0/39 1072 11032522} a5 {+0.0/42 1819 23001101} 38.Kb3 {+0.0/38 1236 14781487} Kb5 {+0.0/47 1099 13557817}
39.c6 {+0.0/47 991 11881606} a4+ {+0.0/49 1072 13486867} 40.Ka2 {+0.0/46 1031 13350186} Rf2+ {+0.0/44 1119 14896726}
41.Ka1 {+0.0/43 1025 13783453} Kxc6 {+0.0/48 1083 14821050} 42.Rg1 {+0.0/47 1037 14273374} a3 {+0.0/43 2780 38218795}
43.Rc1+ {+0.0/47 994 12370987} Kb5 {+0.0/44 639 7968308} 44.Rg1 {+0.0/46 925 11907670} Kb4 {+0.0/42 806 10715085}
45.Rg4+ {+0.0/48 977 12759559} Kb3 {+0.0/44 912 12052400} 46.Rg1 {+0.0/53 1002 13529287} Ra2+ {+0.0/47 857 11224735}
47.Kb1 {+0.0/54 704 9684535} Rb2+ {+0.0/41 832 11403650} 48.Ka1 {+0.0/51 1123 16406680} Ra2+ {+0.0/45 902 11834214}
49.Kb1 {+0.0/52 547 6869351} Rb2+ {+0.0/50 3787 55124046} 50.Ka1 {+0.0/52 1025 13415793} Ra2+ {+0.0/51 2815 41307830}
1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "*"]
[Site "*"]
[Date "2023.01.22"]
[Time "00:03:25"]
[Round "*"]
[White "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Black "Stockfishdev-20230114-3d2381d7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[PlyCount "172"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/2pppp2/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RN1QKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.g3 {-1.1/28 3373 24504880} Nc6 {-1.1/30 10696 75828650} 2.Bg2 {-1.2/25 1368 9697290} Rb8 {-1.2/26 943 6868163}
3.b3 {-1.1/27 1322 9498058} Bg7 {-1.1/30 3417 23941332} 4.c3 {-1.0/24 1493 10982217} e5 {-1.1/27 4693 32775228}
5.e3 {-1.0/24 1593 11197445} Qg5 {-1.1/27 4741 31681306} 6.Ne2 {-1.0/27 5346 34382605} Bb7 {-1.2/23 1118 7708835}
7.d3 {-1.0/23 1200 8000772} Qg6 {-1.3/28 3171 20503578} 8.a4 {-1.0/24 3195 20553315} Nf6 {-1.2/25 1765 11740142}
9.a5 {-1.1/25 1882 12544098} Ba6 {-1.3/25 1694 11268794} 10.e4 {-1.0/25 1535 10654338} Ne7 {-1.2/26 1639 10865322}
11.c4 {-1.2/28 5049 31974983} Nc6 {-1.4/26 5048 33304021} 12.O-O {-1.3/28 4553 29983817} Bf8 {-1.3/24 1057 7077738}
13.Nd2 {-1.2/23 1160 7935518} Bc5 {-1.5/26 1782 11222383} 14.Nf3 {-1.2/25 1953 12397108} d6 {-1.5/24 1527 9647235}
15.d4 {-1.2/24 2209 14648947} Ba7 {-1.4/24 1835 11631097} 16.dxe5 {-1.3/26 4390 28392084} dxe5 {-1.5/26 3510 22610112}
17.Nc3 {-1.4/28 8303 53020592} Nd4 {-1.6/23 1687 11215747} 18.h4 {-1.3/29 7684 48768085} Qg7 {-1.5/24 2300 14573456}
19.Nxd4 {-1.4/23 1961 12722985} Bxd4 {-1.7/25 1652 11026508} 20.Ne2 {-1.5/25 3121 20706461} Bxa1 {-1.9/25 1484 10494128}
21.Qxa1 {-1.7/25 3983 27212072} O-O {-1.9/25 1852 12857969} 22.Qxe5 {-1.9/27 3319 24025850} Ng4 {-2.0/24 1496 10609630}
23.Qxc7 {-2.0/30 9580 68673793} Rxb3 {-2.0/24 1524 11287211} 24.Nf4 {-2.1/26 541 4329511} Qe5 {-2.1/26 1772 13106196}
25.Qc6 {-1.5/20 475 2931360} Qxa5 {-2.0/27 2670 19663313} 26.Nd5 {-1.8/26 3502 24450405} Rd8 {-1.9/29 1599 11796104}
27.Nf6+ {-1.8/19 367 2310007} Nxf6 {-1.9/31 3265 24764505} 28.Qxf6 {-1.8/21 296 2024000} Rd7 {-2.4/30 6002 44257682}
29.Qf4 {-2.3/23 2568 18742554} Rd4 {-2.6/23 1455 10922238} 30.Bh3 {-2.3/21 1046 7587750} Rb6 {-2.6/26 2718 20870373}
31.Bf5 {-2.5/21 503 3539521} Qd2 {-2.8/27 1546 11446716} 32.Qc7 {-2.5/22 786 5642735} Qh6 {-2.8/28 1264 9507572}
33.e5 {-2.5/20 453 3004320} Rb7 {-3.2/28 5683 44674787} 34.Qc8+ {-3.1/22 2283 17927767} Kg7 {-3.3/24 669 5146068}
35.e6 {-3.0/22 395 2767507} Qf6 {-3.3/29 1496 12146202} 36.Qa8 {-3.3/24 659 4958481} Qxf5 {-3.3/23 464 3544411}
37.exf7 {-3.3/26 449 3364229} Rxf7 {-3.4/26 587 4411857} 38.Qxa6 {-3.4/28 690 5680559} Kh7 {-3.4/29 649 5050723}
39.Qb5 {-2.6/17 415 2887702} Qg6 {-3.5/24 630 4920416} 40.Qe8 {-3.3/30 3166 26856725} Rg4 {-3.5/29 666 5574367}
41.Qe2 {-3.3/17 182 1136706} Rxh4 {-3.5/31 824 6843623} 42.Re1 {-3.3/23 953 7254860} Rh6 {-3.5/31 1124 10192291}
43.Rd1 {-3.3/19 264 1997901} Qh5 {-3.6/31 906 8266112} 44.Qxh5 {-3.5/28 952 7626198} Rxh5 {-3.6/29 769 7029041}
45.Kg2 {-3.5/27 384 2872274} Ra5 {-3.7/33 1861 17543623} 46.Rd2 {-3.5/32 674 5998594} Rc5 {-3.7/31 496 4435693}
47.Rd4 {-3.5/24 483 4568525} Rfc7 {-3.8/29 640 6363713} 48.Rh4+ {-3.5/26 514 4741343} Kg6 {-4.0/28 2191 22138600}
49.Rg4+ {-3.8/32 2031 20483468} Kf6 {-4.0/25 916 8794307} 50.Rf4+ {-3.8/31 1940 19313495} Kg5 {-4.0/37 416 3580467}
51.Rd4 {-3.8/35 884 8142359} Rxc4 {-4.0/31 2946 27073379} 52.Rd5+ {-3.8/23 283 2298243} Kg6 {-3.9/27 426 3265876}
53.Rd6+ {-3.9/27 593 5055749} Kh7 {-4.0/31 1668 14688182} 54.Kh3 {-3.9/27 886 7351905} Rc2 {-4.0/23 322 2609338}
55.f4 {-3.9/26 1069 10201869} R2c3 {-4.0/25 602 5728992} 56.Kh4 {-3.9/24 489 4182096} Rg7 {-4.2/27 1107 10108617}
57.g4 {-3.9/29 561 5091380} Rc4 {-4.4/20 569 5398633} 58.Rf6 {-3.9/29 605 5286866} Kg8 {-4.5/24 659 6145515}
59.Kh5 {-4.0/31 3422 34826769} Rh7+ {-4.5/29 620 5615754} 60.Kg5 {-4.6/23 2162 23122097} Rf7 {-4.7/24 722 6847329}
61.Ra6 {-4.6/18 862 9622588} Rfxf4 {-5.5/26 1309 14758532} 62.Ra8+ {-5.0/20 812 9187127} Kf7 {-5.7/24 1017 11537269}
63.Ra7+ {-5.3/25 909 9944212} Ke6 {-6.7/19 686 8312100} 64.Ra6+ {-5.5/33 957 10858757} Kd5 {-7.0/22 787 9014964}
65.Ra5+ {-5.5/25 689 7835633} Kd6 {-11.1/23 2800 35016583} 66.Ra6+ {-5.5/24 584 6117490} Kc7 {-12.8/19 642 8372689}
67.Ra1 {-5.5/18 519 5003545} Rxg4+ {-88.0/49 531 5649640} 68.Kf6 {-9.0/18 2569 31787737} Rce4 {-88.0/34 745 8798226}
69.Ra7+ {-10.4/18 799 8788944} Kb6 {-88.0/31 694 8179844} 70.Ra3 {-11.3/27 915 11961553} Rgf4+ {M+34/32 664 7031802}
71.Kg5 {-88.0/31 2264 36013075} Rf1 {M+28/35 716 8238007} 72.Ra8 {M-57/32 990 12817844} Ref4 {M+18/33 1502 21045053}
73.Ra3 {-88.0/27 183 2051576} Rf8 {M+14/34 778 14749568} 74.Kh6 {M-33/28 814 10490805} Rg8 {M+13/41 779 15411851}
75.Kh7 {M-12/46 636 9118045} Rg4 {M+12/50 856 19338991} 76.Rh3 {M-11/41 386 5451460} Kc6 {M+11/49 736 15205131}
77.Rh6+ {M-10/43 447 6395082} Kd7 {M+10/69 834 14086495} 78.Rg6 {M-9/46 477 6476164} Rfg1 {M+9/77 819 15144335}
79.Ra6 {M-8/98 513 7199906} Rh1+ {M+8/82 814 8576636} 80.Rh6 {M-7/99 520 6705299} Rxh6+ {M+7/108 873 10345841}
81.Kxh6 {M-6/245 416 14536800} Ke6 {M+6/245 563 20503877} 82.Kh5 {M-5/245 88 3251793} Kf5 {M+5/245 36 1236083}
83.Kh6 {M-4/245 42 149736} Kf6 {M+4/245 40 157073} 84.Kh7 {M-3/245 30 86136} Rf4 {M+3/245 29 77261}
85.Kg8 {M-2/245 27 39350} Rh4 {M+2/245 46 32825} 86.Kf8 {M-1/245 30 3430} Rh8# {M+1/245 27 32592}
0-1[/pgn]