Why Vasik Rajlich keep the silence?

[cooldalek]

Why should Vas care in the slightest whether or not this discussion goes on?

[GenoM]

Hi all
Ruxy is damn right. Rajlich could solve the situation. His reply about first Strelka and now about second one is strange at least. He mention possibility that Ossipov is making a joke with him and Rybka. In KasparovChess fora couple a months ago i voiced the idea that the author of Strelka is making everything to suggest us that his creation is may be a clone of Rybka. This behaviour is weird -- you know, if you're a cloner you try to avoid any obvious similarities with your source. Osipov made just opposite. Why? I have some ideas but they are just speculations nothing more. So i'll stay with them.
But i want to ask Uri "the Prosecutor" Blass a question:
1/Uri if you made a clone of some program -- HIARCS fe -- would you name it LOWARCS or something?

Rajlich is right: Osipov just wanted that we all were thinking that Strelka is clone of Rybka.
The question that we should ask ourselves is:
Why?

[Christopher Conkie]

Hi all
Ruxy is damn right. Rajlich could solve the situation. His reply about first Strelka and now about second one is strange at least. He mention possibility that Ossipov is making a joke with him and Rybka. In KasparovChess fora couple a months ago i voiced the idea that the author of Strelka is making everything to suggest us that his creation is may be a clone of Rybka. This behaviour is weird -- you know, if you're a cloner you try to avoid any obvious similarities with your source. Osipov made just opposite. Why? I have some ideas but they are just speculations nothing more. So i'll stay with them.
But i want to ask Uri "the Prosecutor" Blass a question:
1/Uri if you made a clone of some program -- HIARCS fe -- would you name it LOWARCS or something?

Rajlich is right: Osipov just wanted that we all were thinking that Strelka is clone of Rybka.
The question that we should ask ourselves is:
Why?

By the same logic, you use the mylivepage anon poster logo because you want us to believe you are a pirate.....right?



The case is pretty much solved anyway if you look below.

Christopher

[mclane]

there are sadists and masochists. the sadists hide behind a tree before they attack you. the masochists go into the light , throw away their clothes and cry into the group: torture me.

[Dann Corbit]

Hi all !

Without a comparative analysis of Rybka's code and Strelka's code all these discussions are only speculations and malevolent comments.

1.Vas can send the very first Rybka's code to Bryan or/and Dann.Why not ?

Since his is the strongest commercial program in the world, perhaps he is nervous about sending his code to strangers. It's certainly his business if he wants to or not.

2.Vas can tell us if he worked with Rybka code on a computer with internet connection.Why not ?

It is fairly certain that he will have done this. Of course, this has no bearing on whether or not the code has been stolen.

3.Vas can tell us if the Rybka's code was possessed by another person.Why not ?

The burning question is whether or not it has been possessed by the Strelka author. If that were the case, I think he would have told us by now. If "another author" is anybody, then wouldn't your point number 1 indicate great danger and increase suspicion if he had followed through?

4.If Vas knows something about another work-the presumtive root both for Rybka & Strelka-he can tell us.Why not ?

I doubt if there is any common root.

If Vasik Rajlich like the honestity and don't like to see this true circus around Srelka &Osipov he can speak & elucidates all immediate.WHY NOT ?

I guess that he wants to examine the facts for himself instead of flying off the handle in a wild frenzy of accusations without knowing the facts for himself.

By the way, I have done a contest with Strelkas 1.0b/1.8 verses Rybkas 1.0/1.1/1.2. They do not have the same evaluations, searches, or pv's. The ponder nodes are often different. I guess that CCRL's correlation calculation will show that the two engines think very differently.

All the best,
Sylwy

[Marc Lacrosse]

Hi Dann

Quite strange that you publish this post without taking into account what Vas said a few hours ago.
I reported his important words more than four hours ago here in CCC :
http://64.68.157.89/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14988

For example he clearly stated that his source code is on an isolated PC without any internet connection for long (and this was so before rybka 1.0 beta was published according to Vas ...)

Marc

[GenoM]

Statement ov Rajlich is not quite relevant to what Dan said in his post.

[Dann Corbit]

Obviously, I had not read his post.
Clearly, the source code has not been made available.

[Dave McClain]

1.To be the strongest chess program in world & a commercial one is not a refuge & excuse in honestity reasons !

2.Must we build a church (temple) for Rybka ??????

Sylwy

Ruxy.

When Shredder was at the top I don't remember you or anyone else asking Stephan Meyer-Kahlen to justify his program or to answer these ridiculous questions or have his code sent to anyone for any proof.

Strelka isn't even close to Rybka in strength.

Give it a rest.............

[Graham Banks]

Ruxy.

When Shredder was at the top I don't remember you or anyone else asking Stephan Meyer-Kahlen to justify his program or to answer these ridiculous questions or have his code sent to anyone for any proof. Give it a rest.............

Exactly - the onus is not on Vas to do anything if he doesn't want to. He has done nothing wrong in this affair, so why should he be copping the crap?