Chess System Tal II games....

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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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....Again,outsearched,but Aice is a tough opponent :?

[Event "IZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess System Tal II"]
[Black "Aice 0.99.2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B33"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "20:34:16"]
[Variation "Pelikan, 7.Nd5"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c5 {+1.00/11} 2.Nf3 Nc6 {+1.00/11} 3.d4 cxd4 {+1.00/11} 4.Nxd4 e5
{+1.00/11} 5.Nb5 Nf6 {+1.00/11} 6.N1c3 d6 {+1.00/11} 7.Nd5 Nxd5 {+1.00/11} 8.exd5 Nb8
{+1.00/11} 9.c3 Be7 {+1.00/11} 10.Be3 a6 {-0.30/13 151} 11.Na3 Nd7 {-0.34/13 254} 12.Bd3
Nf6 {-0.21/12 85} 13.Qa4+ Bd7 {-0.14/12 91} 14.Qb3 Qa5 {-0.14/11 57} 15.Qxb7 O-O
{-0.07/12 75} 16.Nc4 Qxd5 {-0.12/14 177} 17.Qxd5 Nxd5 {0.00/9 1} 18.Be4 Nxe3 {-0.26/13
105} 19.fxe3 Rad8 {+0.01/12 202} 20.O-O-O Ba4 {+0.02/12 128} 21.b3 Bd7 {-0.12/13
334} 22.Rhf1 f5 {-0.05/12 175} 23.Bb7 Bb5 {+0.02/12 154} 24.Bd5+ Kh8 {-0.05/12 200}
25.a4 Bd7 {+0.02/12 145} 26.Nb6 Be8 {-0.03/13 196} 27.Bc4 Bg5 {+0.12/12 83} 28.Kd2 a5
{+0.32/12 141} 29.Bb5 Bh5 {+0.38/12 96} 30.Be2 Bg6 {+0.21/13 133} 31.Nc4 f4 {+0.32/13
121} 32.Nxa5 fxe3+ {+0.56/13 116} 33.Ke1 Rxf1+ {+0.42/12 110} 34.Kxf1 Be4 {+0.65/12
132} 35.g3 d5 {+1.05/13 50} 36.Nc6 Rf8+ {+1.37/14 73} 37.Ke1 Rf2 {+0.90/13 83} 38.h4
Bf6 {+1.50/14 117} 39.Nb4 d4 {+1.51/12 44} 40.cxd4 exd4 {+1.50/10 2} 41.Rc1 Kg8
{+1.86/12 91} 42.Rc8+ Kf7 {+1.91/10 39} 43.Bc4+ Ke7 {+2.55/10 23} 44.Bb5 Kd6 {+2.91/11
22} 45.Bd3 Bf3 {+2.88/12 45} 46.Rc2 Be5 {+3.01/11 26} 47.g4 Bg3 {+3.02/11 70}
48.Rxf2 Bxf2+ {+3.02/10 6} 0-1

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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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Dr. I guess the test run under own book's? or under your book?
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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In my tournaments the engines use their own opening books,unless they don't have one,they use iPapyrus.abk or iPapyrus.ctg 8-)
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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I think the manual resignation by you was premature.
Yes black is better, but white has 2 strong passed Pawns that are supported by the Bishop, has a very strong light Bishop in a very good square and the blockade on e2-d3 seems very strong for white.

Not so sure about the black win and definitely Aice could make mistakes and even lose the game....


For example from the position you stopped it, against Rybka 1.2i with 30 seconds per move for Rybka and Aice the same time control you used:

[Event "IZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka 1.2i"]
[Black "AICE 0.99.2 "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B33"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "Pelikan, 7.Nd5"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "146"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c5 {+1.00/11} 2.Nf3 Nc6 {+1.00/11} 3.d4 cxd4 {+1.00/11} 4.Nxd4 e5
{+1.00/11} 5.Nb5 Nf6 {+1.00/11} 6.N1c3 d6 {+1.00/11} 7.Nd5 Nxd5 {+1.00/11} 8.exd5 Nb8
{+1.00/11} 9.c3 Be7 {+1.00/11} 10.Be3 a6 {-0.30/13 151} 11.Na3 Nd7 {-0.34/13 254} 12.Bd3
Nf6 {-0.21/12 85} 13.Qa4+ Bd7 {-0.14/12 91} 14.Qb3 Qa5 {-0.14/11 57} 15.Qxb7 O-O
{-0.07/12 75} 16.Nc4 Qxd5 {-0.12/14 177} 17.Qxd5 Nxd5 {0.00/9 1} 18.Be4 Nxe3 {-0.26/13
105} 19.fxe3 Rad8 {+0.01/12 202} 20.O-O-O Ba4 {+0.02/12 128} 21.b3 Bd7 {-0.12/13
334} 22.Rhf1 f5 {-0.05/12 175} 23.Bb7 Bb5 {+0.02/12 154} 24.Bd5+ Kh8 {-0.05/12 200}
25.a4 Bd7 {+0.02/12 145} 26.Nb6 Be8 {-0.03/13 196} 27.Bc4 Bg5 {+0.12/12 83} 28.Kd2 a5
{+0.32/12 141} 29.Bb5 Bh5 {+0.38/12 96} 30.Be2 Bg6 {+0.21/13 133} 31.Nc4 f4 {+0.32/13
121} 32.Nxa5 fxe3+ {+0.56/13 116} 33.Ke1 Rxf1+ {+0.42/12 110} 34.Kxf1 Be4 {+0.65/12
132} 35.g3 d5 {+1.05/13 50} 36.Nc6 Rf8+ {+1.37/14 73} 37.Ke1 Rf2 {+0.90/13 83} 38.h4
Bf6 {+1.50/14 117} 39.Nb4 d4 {+1.51/12 44} 40.cxd4 exd4 {+1.50/10 2} 41.Rc1 Kg8
{+1.86/12 91} 42.Rc8+ Kf7 {+1.91/10 39} 43.Bc4+ Ke7 {+2.55/10 23} 44.Bb5 Kd6 {+2.91/11
22} 45.Bd3 Bf3 {+2.88/12 45} 46.Rc2 Be5 {+3.01/11 26} 47.g4 Bg3 {+3.02/11 70}
48.Rxf2 Bxf2+ {+3.02/10 6} 49.Kf1 Bxg4 {(49. ... Bxg4 50.Bxh7 Bxh4 51.Bd3 Bf3 52.a5 Ke5
53.a6 Be7 54.Nc2) +2.82/10 15} 50.Nc2 Ke5 {(50. ... Ke5 51.a5 Bxh4 52.a6 g6 53.Ne1
Bxe1 54.Kxe1 Bf3 55.a7) +2.76/10 19} 51.a5 Bh3+ {(51. ... Bh3+ 52.Ke2 Bxh4 53.Bxh7
Bg4+ 54.Kd3 e2 55.Kd2 Bf3 56.b4 g5) +2.82/10 17} 52.Ke2 g6 {(52. ... g6 53.a6 Bg4+
54.Kf1 Bxh4 55.b4 h5 56.b5 Bf5 57.Ke2 Bxd3+ 58.Kxd3) +2.80/10 20} 53.Kf3 Bxh4 {(53.
... Bxh4 54.a6 g5 55.Nxe3 dxe3 56.a7 g4+ 57.Kxe3 Bg2 58.Bxh7 Ba8 59.Bd3) +2.16/11
24} 54.Nb4 h5 {(54. ... h5 55.a6 Bg4+ 56.Kg2 Bc8 57.Be2 Kd6 58.Nc2 Kc5 59.b4+ Kb6
60.b5 Kc5) +2.17/11 24} 55.a6 Bg4+ {(55. ... Bg4+ 56.Kg2 Bc8 57.Kf3 Bf6 58.Bxg6 Bxa6
59.Nxa6 h4 60.Ke2 h3) +1.54/11 17} 56.Kg2 Bc8 {(56. ... Bc8 57.Kf3 Kd6 58.Nc2 Bg4+
59.Kf4 Bf6 60.Bxg6 Bd1 61.a7 Be5+ 62.Kg5 Bf3) +1.13/11 24} 57.Kf3 Kd6 {(57. ... Kd6
58.Nc2 Bf6 59.a7 Bb7+ 60.Be4 Kc7 61.Nxe3 Bxe4+ 62.Kxe4 Kb7 63.Nd5 Bg7) +1.11/11 25}
58.Be4 Bxa6 {(58. ... Bxa6 59.Nxa6 g5 60.Nb4 g4+ 61.Ke2 Bf2 62.Nc2 Ke5 63.Bc6 h4
64.Nxe3) +1.00/11 16} 59.Nxa6 g5 {(59. ... g5 60.Nb4 g4+ 61.Ke2 Bd8 62.Nd5 Bg5 63.Nxe3
dxe3 64.Kf1 h4 65.Bg2 h3) +0.99/12 14} 60.Nb4 g4+ {(60. ... g4+ 61.Ke2 Bd8 62.Nd5
Bg5 63.Nxe3 dxe3 64.Kf1 h4 65.b4 h3 66.b5) +0.91/12 16} 61.Ke2 Bd8 {(61. ... Bd8
62.Nd5 Bg5 63.Nxe3 dxe3 64.Kf1 h4 65.Bf5 g3 66.Bh3 Kd5 67.Bg2+ Kd4) +0.98/12 26}
62.Nd3 h4 {(62. ... h4 63.Nf2 Ke5 64.Bb7 exf2 65.Kxf2 g3+ 66.Kf3 Be7 67.Kg2 d3 68.Bf3
Bc5) +1.21/12 26} 63.Bf5 g3 {(63. ... g3 64.Ne1 Kc5 65.Nf3 Bf6 66.Nxh4 Bxh4 67.Be4
Bd8 68.Ke1 Ba5+ 69.Kd1) +1.11/11 26} 64.Bh3 Be7 {(64. ... Be7 65.Nb4 Kc5 66.Nc2 Bg5
67.Kd3 Bf6 68.Nxe3 dxe3 69.Kxe3 Bg5+ 70.Ke4 Bf6) +0.79/12 26} 65.Kf3 Bg5 {(65. ... Bg5
66.Ke2 Bf6 67.Nf4 Kc5 68.Nh5 Bd8 69.Nxg3 hxg3 70.Bg2 Ba5) +1.12/11 14} 66.Ke4 Bf6
{(66. ... Bf6 67.Ne1 Kc5 68.Nc2 e2 69.Kd3 e1Q 70.Nxe1 Kb4 71.Nf3 Kxb3 72.Nxh4)
+0.94/12 27} 67.Bg2 Bg7 {(67. ... Bg7 68.Ne1 Kc5 69.Nc2 Bf6 70.Nxe3 dxe3 71.Kxe3 Kb4
72.Kf4 Kxb3 73.Kg4) +0.71/12 27} 68.Kf5 Ke7 {(68. ... Ke7 69.Ke4 Kd7 70.Ne1 Kd8 71.Nc2
e2 72.Kd3 e1Q 73.Nxe1 Kc7 74.Nf3) +0.79/12 27} 69.b4 Bh8 {(69. ... Bh8 70.Kg5 Bf6+
71.Kg6 e2 72.b5 Be5 73.Kg5 Ke6 74.Kxh4 Bc7 75.Kg5) +0.93/11 17} 70.b5 Kd6 {(70. ...
Kd6 71.Kg5 Kc7 72.Kxh4 Kb6 73.Bc6 g2 74.Bxg2 Kxb5 75.Bf3 Bg7) +0.72/11 24} 71.Kg5
Kc7 {(71. ... Kc7 72.Kxh4 Kb6 73.Kxg3 Kxb5 74.Kf3 Bf6 75.Ne1 Kc4 76.Nc2 Kd3
77.Nxe3) +0.59/12 21} 72.Kxh4 Kb6 {(72. ... Kb6 73.Kxg3 Kxb5 74.Kf3 Kc4 75.Ke4 Kc3
76.Nc1 Kb4 77.Ne2 Kc4 78.Nxd4) +0.51/12 28} 73.Kxg3 Kxb5 {(73. ... Kxb5 74.Kf3 Kc4
75.Ke4 Kc3 76.Nc1 Kb4 77.Ne2 Kc4 78.Bf3 Bf6 79.Nxd4) +0.44/12 17} {} 1/2-1/2

CSTal II is not Rybka, but the nature of the position can make it possible CSTal to draw too....
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No,I didn't stop the game,but the rest of the game was not interesting to post,black did win convincingly about 12 moves later....
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:No,I didn't stop the game,but the rest of the game was not interesting to post.
Strange decision.... :? Why do you think it was not interesting?
The position is not easy to play and a small mistake by Aice could turn it into a draw if CSTal played perfectly.
Could you post the whole game now to see how it finished?
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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Sorry,but I am like Thorsten,not a database fan :P
Aice did win in this very game even with the white passed pawns and the strong bishop,white position was getting from bad to worse....
Hold on,I'll post more games and I promise not to make a hair cut no more :lol:
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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[Event "IZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.12"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Alf 1.08"]
[Black "Chess system Tal II"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "E20"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian"]
[Time "17:15:42"]
[Variation "Romanishin"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "111"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1.d4 {+0.01/1} Nf6 2.c4 {+0.01/1} e6 3.Nc3 {+0.01/1} Bb4 4.g3 {+0.01/1} d5 5.Bg2
{+0.01/1} c6 6.Qb3 {+0.22/10 110} Ba5 7.Nf3 {+0.32/10 122} dxc4 8.Qxc4 {+0.36/12 152} b5
9.Qb3 {+0.52/12 151} O-O 10.Be3 {+0.86/11 150} Nd5 11.O-O {+0.87/11 173} Nxe3 12.fxe3
{+0.98/13 173} Nd7 13.Ne4 {+0.89/11 166} Qe7 14.Rac1 {+0.80/11 171} Bb7 15.Ne5 {+0.58/11
177} Nxe5 16.dxe5 {+0.56/11 63} Bb6 17.Kh1 {+0.92/11 62} Rab8 18.Nd6 {+0.54/10 61}
Qg5 19.Nxb7 {+0.16/11 61} Rxb7 20.Bxc6 {+0.13/12 60} Rc7 21.e4 {+0.38/12 65} a6
22.a4 {-0.02/11 64} Be3 23.Rc2 {+0.64/13 63} bxa4 24.Qxa4 {+0.58/12 62} Qxe5 25.Qxa6
{+0.50/12 62} Rb8 26.b4 {+0.54/10 61} Ra7 27.Qd3 {+0.66/13 61} Ra1 28.Rd1 {+0.67/12 60}
h5 29.Rc4 {+0.74/12 59} h4 30.gxh4 {+1.04/12 59} Rc8 31.b5 {+1.04/12 59} Qf6 32.e5
{+1.16/13 58} Rxd1+ 33.Qxd1 {+1.09/13 57} Qxe5 34.Re4 {+1.15/12 57} Qc3 35.Qf1 {+1.14/11
56} Rd8 36.Qf3 {+1.08/11 56} Qc1+ 37.Kg2 {+1.12/12 56} Bb6 38.Qf4 {+1.02/10 55}
Qg1+ 39.Kh3 {+0.95/11 54} Qd1 40.Qg3 {+0.96/12 54} Qf1+ 41.Qg2 {+0.87/13 53} Rd3+
42.exd3 {+0.69/14 53} Qxd3+ 43.Kg4 {+0.90/13 53} f5+ 44.Kh5 {+0.84/14 52} fxe4 45.Qxe4
{+0.84/12 52} Qd1+ 46.Qf3 {+0.81/12 52} Qd4 47.h3 {+0.43/10 52} Bd8 48.Be4 {-0.20/12 51}
Qd2 49.Kg4 {+0.29/12 50} Qe1 50.Kf4 {+0.26/11 50} Bc7+ 51.Kg5 {-0.20/13 50} Qg1+
52.Kh5 {-0.20/14 50} g6+ 53.Kh6 {+1.03/13 49} Qd4 54.Qg4 {+0.32/12 49} Qg7+ 55.Kg5
Bd8+ 56.Kf4 1/2-1/2

[d]3b2k1/6q1/4p1p1/1P6/4BKQP/7P/8/8 b - - 7 56
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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Hi,
It's Friday 13 and Chess System Tal II took it's first victim :P

[Event "IZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess system Tal II"]
[Black "Alf 1.08"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B32"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "18:49:10"]
[Variation "Flohr, 5.Nb5"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c5 {+0.01/1} 2.Nf3 Nc6 {+0.01/1} 3.d4 cxd4 {+0.01/1} 4.Nxd4 Qc7 {+0.01/1}
5.Nb5 Qb8 {+0.01/1} 6.Be3 Nf6 {-0.29/11 85} 7.N1c3 e6 {-0.19/11 96} 8.f4 a6 {-0.17/12
98} 9.e5 axb5 {-0.33/13 106} 10.exf6 gxf6 {-0.35/12 124} 11.Bxb5 d5 {-0.31/12 130}
12.Qe2 Qd6 {-0.32/11 133} 13.O-O-O h5 {-0.66/10 137} 14.Ne4 Qd8 {-1.12/11 67} 15.c4
Be7 {-1.31/10 77} 16.Nc3 d4 {-1.38/11 76} 17.Rxd4 Qc7 {-1.25/10 75} 18.Rhd1 h4
{-1.53/9 74} 19.Qf2 h3 {-1.81/10 73} 20.R4d2 hxg2 {-2.32/12 79} 21.Bb6 g1=Q {-3.77/13
78} 22.Rxg1 Qb8 {-4.36/12 77} 23.Qh4 Rf8 {-7.03/12 76} 24.Rgd1 Bd7 {-7.18/11 75} 1-0

[d]rq2kr2/1p1bbp2/1Bn1pp2/1B6/2P2P1Q/2N5/PP1R3P/2KR4 w q - 5 25

Score so far 1,5/4
Next opponent Alfil 7.5
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....

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Hi,
This time the speculative way of playing payed back :mrgreen:

[Event "IZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Alfil 7.5"]
[Black "Chess System Tal II"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "C89"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Time "13:10:37"]
[Variation "Marshall, Main Line, Classical, 18.a4 f5"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "94"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Be3 Bg4 16.Qd3 Rae8
17.Nd2 Re6 18.a4 f5 19.Qf1 bxa4 20.Qxh3 {+0.92/18 119} Bxh3 21.Rxa4 {+1.11/18 142} f4
22.Rxa6 {+1.23/18 139} fxe3 23.fxe3 {+1.22/18 135} Be7 24.Rxc6 {+1.34/18 132} Rxc6
25.Bxd5+ {+1.24/19 129} Re6 26.e4 {+1.32/18 126} Rb8 27.b3 {+1.45/18 123} Kf8 28.Bxe6
{+1.50/18 121} Bxe6 29.e5 {+1.28/17 118} Ra8 30.c4 {+1.03/17 115} Bb4 31.Rd1 {+0.70/18
149} Ra3 32.Kh1 {-0.31/17 144} Ke7 33.h3 {-1.17/18 139} Bxh3 34.Ne4 {-1.69/18 134}
Rxb3 35.Nf2 {-1.56/17 129} Bc8 36.Kg2 {-1.58/16 124} Ba6 37.d5 {-1.80/17 120} Bxc4
38.Rd4 {-1.57/16 116} Bb5 39.Rg4 {-2.24/16 112} g6 40.Rh4 {-2.66/15 109} h5 41.Ne4
{-3.20/16 72} Bd7 42.e6 {-2.05/16 72} Be8 43.Rf4 {-3.05/16 71} Re3 44.g4 {-2.30/17 70}
Bc3 45.Nxc3 {-2.99/15 69} Rxc3 46.gxh5 {-3.63/19 68} gxh5 47.Rf5 {-4.00/19 68} Rd3 48.Kf2 0-1

[d]4b3/4k3/4P3/3P1R1p/8/3r4/5K2/8 b - - 3 48

Opponents so far,Aice 0.99.2,Alf 1.08,Alfil 7.5
Score till now 2,5/5
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