About strelka1.8 sources

[Sergei Markoff]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

[Christopher Conkie]

Sorry but I am not sure if I have the right to send it to other people
inspite of the fact that I was not asked not to do it.

My assumption is that I am not allowed to distribute the source and if the person who send me want to do it he can distribute the source by himself.

Note only that
I am not the only programmer who got the source.

Tord also got it.

Uri

I don't want the complete source.

I want the numbers part.....that great big table of values....you know the one I mean.

I don't even need any explaination as to what the values are.

Just the values themselves. Now I'm sure you can send just that.

Christopher

I understand what you mean but I do not feel free to do it.
If sergei does not send them to you or does not allow me to send them to you then I am not going to do it.

He did not tell me not to send them to you but I assume that I cannot give big parts of the code without his agreement.

Uri

Mix them up Uri.

In any order you like (don't change them...just reposition them.....)

If it is in one big multi dimensional array.....rename the array.....etc.....

How hard can it be ?



If they want the program to be justified as an original work you should have no problem in doing this......as it will be unrecognisable........

Or will it...........



Christopher

[Christopher Conkie]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

Yes Sergei.....if I see that table.....just that.

To be specific I'd like the table that was in Strelka 1.0 not the one in Strelka 1.8 uci.

Christopher

[Graham Banks]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

Yes Sergei.....if I see that table.....just that.

To be specific I'd like the table that was in Strelka 1.0 not the one in Strelka 1.8 uci.

Christopher

Does this mean that your suspicions are only about Strelka 1.0 or both 1.0 and 1.8?

[Christopher Conkie]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

Yes Sergei.....if I see that table.....just that.

To be specific I'd like the table that was in Strelka 1.0 not the one in Strelka 1.8 uci.

Christopher

Does this mean that your suspicions are only about Strelka 1.0 or both 1.0 and 1.8?

No. I'd just prefer to see it as it was before any ammendments.

I don't think I have requested anything unreasonable.....do you?



Christopher

[Graham Banks]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

Yes Sergei.....if I see that table.....just that.

To be specific I'd like the table that was in Strelka 1.0 not the one in Strelka 1.8 uci.

Christopher

Does this mean that your suspicions are only about Strelka 1.0 or both 1.0 and 1.8?

No. I'd just prefer to see it as it was before any ammendments.

I don't think I have requested anything unreasonable.....do you?



Christopher

No I don't. It would be good to find out once and for all.

[Dann Corbit]

I also have the sources (as have several others). I do not think that Strelka is a clone of anything.

Of course, it is possible that the Strelka author has examined the assembly of Rybka and written code based on what he has learned. That is not illegal, and I also doubt that Strelka has any Rybka code ideas implemented directly.

I think that it is too bad that chess authors constantly have to face witch hunts. I suppose that the bad actions of others have made life difficult for everyone. Sort of like suicide bombers causing all of us to spend hours in the airport lines more than we should.

By the way, the new Strelka is quite different from the old one. The 1.0 version had a 4 MB material table that the 1.8 version does not carry.

[Christopher Conkie]

I also have the sources (as have several others). I do not think that Strelka is a clone of anything.

Of course, it is possible that the Strelka author has examined the assembly of Rybka and written code based on what he has learned. That is not illegal, and I also doubt that Strelka has any Rybka code ideas implemented directly.

I think that it is too bad that chess authors constantly have to face witch hunts. I suppose that the bad actions of others have made life difficult for everyone. Sort of like suicide bombers causing all of us to spend hours in the airport lines more than we should.

By the way, the new Strelka is quite different from the old one. The 1.0 version had a 4 MB material table that the 1.8 version does not carry.

There's no witch hunt. The author has already stated what he did and how.

He also said he had worked on it for 18 years.

.....which is the biggest, fattest and juiciest of lies but I can forgive that if you can.........

You have the 4mb material table from Srelka 1.0....thats all i would need.

Send it to me.

chris at playwitharena dot com

With regard to bad actions you were the one who did not see that the values in there were Rybka albeit because you have never seen those values to compare.

I have.

Even upon disassembly and catagorical proof that those values were exactly the same (you remember the Dark Avenger guy) you say "there is no Rybka in there".

So send it....free yourself from this poisoned chalice once and for all and have done with it. It's no use to me other than to perform this meritorious action on behave of those who suspect.



I don't want the whole thing....just that 4 mb table.

Simple, easy....conclusive.

Regards

Christopher

[Uri Blass]

I'll speak with Yury to got the permission.
Looks like Yury registered account in this forum, may be he will ask you himself.

Yes Sergei.....if I see that table.....just that.

To be specific I'd like the table that was in Strelka 1.0 not the one in Strelka 1.8 uci.

Christopher

Note that I got only 1.8 and not 1.0

1.8 also has a big table of 2^14 numbers that is 2048 lines because every line has only 2^3 numbers(every number is 64 bit number) and I thought that you meant to that table.

Uri

[Uri Blass]

I also have the sources (as have several others). I do not think that Strelka is a clone of anything.

Of course, it is possible that the Strelka author has examined the assembly of Rybka and written code based on what he has learned. That is not illegal, and I also doubt that Strelka has any Rybka code ideas implemented directly.

I think that it is too bad that chess authors constantly have to face witch hunts. I suppose that the bad actions of others have made life difficult for everyone. Sort of like suicide bombers causing all of us to spend hours in the airport lines more than we should.

By the way, the new Strelka is quite different from the old one. The 1.0 version had a 4 MB material table that the 1.8 version does not carry.

There's no witch hunt. The author has already stated what he did and how.

He also said he had worked on it for 18 years.

.....which is the biggest, fattest and juiciest of lies but I can forgive that if you can.........

You have the 4mb material table from Srelka 1.0....thats all i would need.

Send it to me.

chris at playwitharena dot com

With regard to bad actions you were the one who did not see that the values in there were Rybka albeit because you have never seen those values to compare.

I have.

Even upon disassembly and catagorical proof that those values were exactly the same (you remember the Dark Avenger guy) you say "there is no Rybka in there".

So send it....free yourself from this poisoned chalice once and for all and have done with it. It's no use to me other than to perform this meritorious action on behave of those who suspect.



I don't want the whole thing....just that 4 mb table.

Simple, easy....conclusive.

Regards

Christopher

I think that the discussion is about 1.8 and not about 1.0

Uri