Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

Post by Spock »

ml wrote:The output is identical, but it looks like version 11.1 can calculate the same number of nodes in a shorter time. They have run these tests more than once, and the differences show up consistently.
Then, perhaps they just optimised the compile at some point ?

It is very odd indeed, chessbase say there is no new version, and that is quite a compelling statement. But, if there are no code changes but just re-compiled, then maybe there is no inconsistency

The speed increase surely would not account for +20-25 ELO
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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At the moment we have only +11

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Fritz 11.1         2918   11  11  2570    63.2 %   2824   36.6 %
Fritz 11           2907    8   8  5040    59.6 %   2839   38.0 %
This is within the statistical margin of error.

Best,
G.S.
Spock

Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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ThatsIt wrote:At the moment we have only +11

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Fritz 11.1         2918   11  11  2570    63.2 %   2824   36.6 %
Fritz 11           2907    8   8  5040    59.6 %   2839   38.0 %
This is within the statistical margin of error.

Best,
G.S.
Agreed
ml

Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

Post by ml »

Spock wrote:
ml wrote:The output is identical, but it looks like version 11.1 can calculate the same number of nodes in a shorter time. They have run these tests more than once, and the differences show up consistently.
Then, perhaps they just optimised the compile at some point ?

It is very odd indeed, chessbase say there is no new version, and that is quite a compelling statement. But, if there are no code changes but just re-compiled, then maybe there is no inconsistency

The speed increase surely would not account for +20-25 ELO
That is a plausible explanation.
ml

Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

Post by ml »

ThatsIt wrote:At the moment we have only +11

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Fritz 11.1         2918   11  11  2570    63.2 %   2824   36.6 %
Fritz 11           2907    8   8  5040    59.6 %   2839   38.0 %
This is within the statistical margin of error.

Best,
G.S.
If we assume that a twofold increase in speed results in a 60 point increase in the rating, and if version 11.1 is, on average, 10% faster than version 11.0 (which earlier tests seem to indicate), then we would expect a rating increase of about 9 points (because 1.1 ^ 7 ~ 2, and 60/7 ~ 9). The 11 point increase is in close agreement with this premise.
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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some facts:
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Fritz 11.1
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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From where is this file (eigenschaften von Fritz 11.engine)? How did you access it?
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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Uri wrote:From where is this file (eigenschaften von Fritz 11.engine)? How did you access it?
I wonder if i should try to explain how to download a file
because http://64.68.157.89/forum/viewtopic.php ... 57&t=19773
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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ThatsIt wrote:
Uri wrote:From where is this file (eigenschaften von Fritz 11.engine)? How did you access it?
I wonder if i should try to explain how to download a file
because http://64.68.157.89/forum/viewtopic.php ... 57&t=19773
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Re: Fritz 11 Update Feb 29 2008

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Maybe he just wants to know where the engine file is located. Files with a .engine extension are normally located in
C:\Program Files\Common Files\ChessBase\Engines, and files with a .eng extension are usually in
C:\Program Files\ChessBase\Engines.