MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

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Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

Post by terminator »

Ovyron wrote:
Bill Rogers wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself making remarks like that.
He always does that, don't feed the troll.
Get some balls for our friend Pablo. Silicon ones will do and if the worst comes to the worst, then get some tennis balls. You need a pair too.
ArmoredGuns

Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

Post by ArmoredGuns »

terminator wrote:
Ovyron wrote:
Bill Rogers wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself making remarks like that.
He always does that, don't feed the troll.
Get some balls for our friend Pablo. Silicon ones will do and if the worst comes to the worst, then get some tennis balls. You need a pair too.
I can't understand you.

A game of chess IS a game of chess, no matter how you play it. Geez, this is something many people can't understand.
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Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

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Maybe black DOES still have winning chances, by planning a breakthrough or attacks on the f4 g5 pawns, when time is ripe, and underlying attack ready?

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Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

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terminator wrote:
Bill Rogers wrote:Enrico
You should be ashamed of yourself making remarks like that. The name of the game of chess is to win by any means. It does not matter whether or not you are playing another human or a machine the object of the game remains the same, win !
As I have posted in the past chess programmers should pay attention and learn how to not let their programs be beaten this way. It is already a known fact that
computer can think faster and deeper than the majority of people on this earth with maybe the exception of a few International Masters.
Bill
The computer was not beaten. The pawns were locked up in a fortress position. Typically beginners play like this or people without balls looking to draw with a computer.
For a low rated player it's very good. But it's computer weakness which shouldn't be there. It's still very good for the low rated player to achieve that, but that might be an only way that such a player can sometimes score a half point.
Problem is, if the human needs to play inferior moves to to that. If so, it should not be rewarded too much. But if those moves are anyway good, then the draw IS deserved.
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Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

Post by Uri »

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That's an interesting position. Black has a weak pawn on h4. Black could perhaps try to sac the b5 pawn in order to open the position.
Tony Thomas

Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

Post by Tony Thomas »

Ovyron wrote:
Bill Rogers wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself making remarks like that.
He always does that, don't feed the troll.
Bang ! Agreed, I will not feed him, matter of fact I just took his chickety chicken sandwich away. Anyway, that coming from the guy with the chocolate logo.. :lol: Encrico Amato doesnt suck goat..(in a goat lover's eyes, he isnt very cool)..
terminator

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Post by terminator »

Mr Tony Thonas, have you forgotten your horsing around er goating around recently? The only thing worse than goating around is this antichess madness.
Tony Thomas

Re: MAN VERSUS MACHINE. QUAD VERSUS SINGLE MAN 2008

Post by Tony Thomas »

terminator wrote:Mr Tony Thonas, have you forgotten your horsing around er goating around recently? The only thing worse than goating around is this antichess madness.
I have been a goat lover ever since I was a boy, at least I am not the one who is rude in 80% of my posts. Even though I do not agree with the way Pablo gloats, I do not see anything wrong with him being able to draw computers. What if he manages to draw a computer every single time with more training? Would you still bully him?

Where are the AGC members when I need them..Mike, George, Hristo, Evgeniy, come handle this goat hater. Err..forgot Wael. By the way, I just noticed that you spelt my name wrong.
terminator

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Ere we go *Terminator music playing*