Are there programs that can see advantage for white?

[Dann Corbit]

Hiarcs resolves to less than 1/2 pawn in 12 minutes

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\wib.epd   
8/11/2008 7:48:01 PM Level: 720 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Hiarcs

1) "White is better";   
    Avoid move: 
    Best move (Hiarcs): Rf8-e8
    Not found in: 12:00
    11/25-	00:00	     777.372	1.380.758	+1.03	Rf8d8
    11/26	00:01	   1.110.995	1.452.281	+0.70	Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Bd6e7 Nb8c6 Ne4d6 Qf5a5 Be7xd8 Nc6xd8 Nd6e8 Qa5g5 Qg3xg5 h6xg5
    12/29+	00:02	   2.321.778	1.517.501	+0.95	Rf8d8
    12/29	00:02	   3.668.228	1.536.108	+0.95	Rf8d8 Qe3f4
    12/30	00:03	   5.485.984	1.541.872	+0.96	Rf8e8
    12/30	00:04	   5.557.968	1.535.350	+0.96	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Be2h5 Re8d8 Bd6e7
    13/30-	00:04	   6.963.205	1.538.829	+0.71	Rf8e8
    13/32	00:05	   8.435.304	1.562.382	+0.67	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Bd6xb8 f5xe4 Bb8f4 Re8f8 Qe3xe4 Qa5c5+ Rf1f2 Nd7f6 Qe4g6 Qc5f5 Be2d3 Qf5xg6 Bd3xg6
    13/33	00:06	   9.828.796	1.567.091	+0.68	Rf8d8
    13/33+	00:07	  11.753.066	1.582.478	+1.21	Rf8d8
    13/33	00:08	  12.865.142	1.591.826	+1.21	Rf8d8 00 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Nd7xb6 Rf1b1 Nb6a4 Rd2d4
    14/33	00:13	  20.903.834	1.612.328	+1.21	Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2d3 Qf5g6 Qg3xg6 f7xg6 Rd2f2 Nb8c6 00 Nc6e5 Bd3e2 b7b5 Bd6e7 Rd8e8
    15/36-	00:17	  27.398.535	1.627.667	+0.96	Rf8d8
    15/36	00:24	  38.478.990	1.625.918	+0.42	Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Nb8c6 00 f7f5 Bd6c7 Qa5b4 Bc7xd8 f5xe4 Qg3g6 Nc6xd8 Qg6e8+ Kg8h7 Be2h5 Qb4b6+ Kg1h1 e6e5 Rd2xd7 Bc8xd7
    15/37	00:29	  47.672.078	1.632.381	+0.42	Rf8e8
    15/38	00:35	  57.453.910	1.620.977	+0.42	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Be2h5
    16/40+	01:21	 131.312.494	1.610.346	+0.67	Rf8e8
    16/40	01:33	 150.058.809	1.615.272	+0.78	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Be2h5 Re8d8 Ne4g5 h6xg5 Bd6e7 Nb8c6 Qe3xe6+ Kg8h8 Be7xd8 Qa5xd8 Qe6xf5 Qd8a5 Qf5xa5 Nc6xa5 Rd2d5 Na5c4 Rd5xg5
    17/41	02:22	 229.191.505	1.617.658	+0.82	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Be2h5 Re8d8 Ne4g5 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Nd7xb6 Ng5f7 Nb6c4 Rd2d4 Rd8xd6 Nf7xd6 Nc4xd6 Rd4xd6 Nb8c6 Rf1d1 e6e5 Bh5g6 Kg8f8 c2c4
    18/41	04:08	 403.734.794	1.624.824	+0.71	Rf8e8 00 f7f5 Be2h5 Re8d8 Ne4g5 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Nd7xb6 Ng5f7 Nb6c4 Rd2d4 Rd8xd6 Nf7xd6 Nc4xd6 Rd4xd6 Nb8c6 Bh5g6 a6a5 Rf1d1 Kg8f8 c2c4
    19/41-	05:38	 548.195.722	1.619.150	+0.46	Rf8e8
   8/11/2008 7:55:56 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:07:51, Rated time: 12:00

[Dann Corbit]

Rybka 3 got:

Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\wib.epd
8/11/2008 9:08:24 PM Level: 720 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Rybka 3

1) "White is better";
Avoid move:
Best move (Rybka 3): Rf8-d8
Not found in: 12:00
2 00:00 668 40.237 +0.42 Nb8c6
2 00:00 878 52.886 +0.90 Rf8d8
3 00:00 1.155 69.571 +1.02 Rf8d8
4 00:00 1.796 57.472 +1.21 Rf8d8
5 00:00 3.004 96.128 +1.18 Rf8d8 00
6 00:00 13.830 179.264 +1.24 Rf8d8 00 f7f5 Ne4f2
7 00:00 16.574 178.650 +1.24 Rf8d8 00 f7f5 Ne4f2
8 00:00 31.457 205.171 +1.12 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Bd6e7 Qf5xe4
9 00:00 61.422 200.946 +1.02 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Bd6e7 Qf5xe4 Be7xd8 Nb8c6 Bd8c7 Nc6d4 Bc7f4 a6a5
10 00:00 107.344 213.023 +0.95 Rf8d8 Bd6e7 Rd8e8 Be7a3
11 00:00 172.745 213.636 +0.89 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 Bd6c7 Rd8f8 00 Kg8h8 Qg3h4
12+ 00:01 280.066 238.592 +1.09 Rf8d8
12 00:01 300.714 232.050 +0.89 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6c7 Rd8f8 Qg3h4 Nd7e5 Bf3h5
13 00:02 449.298 239.625 +0.89 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6c7 Rd8f8 Qg3h4 Nd7e5 Bf3h5
14 00:04 964.594 229.334 +0.70 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6c7
15 00:11 2.770.112 241.125 +0.72 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6f4 Rd8f8 Ne4d6 Qf5c5+ Kg1h1 Nc6e5 Bf3e2 f7f5 Rf1d1
16 00:19 4.581.739 240.970 +0.67 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6f4 Rd8f8 Ne4d6 Qf5c5+ Kg1h1 Nc6e5 Bf3e2 b7b6 Rf1d1 Ra8a7 h2h3
17 01:27 20.808.808 243.734 +0.57 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6f4 Rd8f8 Ne4d6 Qf5c5+ Kg1h1 Nc6e5 Bf3e2 b7b6 Rf1b1 Ra8a7 Rb1b3 Bc8b7 Nd6xb7 Ra7xb7 Rb3c3
18 03:44 56.907.721 260.308 +0.50 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6f4 Rd8f8 Ne4d6 Qf5c5+ Kg1h1 Nc6e5 Bf3e2 b7b6 Rf1b1 f7f5 Rb1d1 g7g5 Nd6xc8 g5xf4 Qg3xf4 Rf8f6 Nc8d6 Rf6g6 Be2h5 Rg6g5 Bh5f7
19 04:56 74.569.660 258.081 +0.50 Rf8d8 Qe3g3 Qa5f5 Be2f3 Nb8c6 00 Kg8h8 Bd6f4 Rd8f8 Ne4d6 Qf5c5+ Kg1h1 Nc6e5 Bf3e2 b7b6 Rf1b1 f7f5 Rb1d1 g7g5 Nd6xc8 g5xf4 Qg3xf4 Rf8f6 Nc8d6 Rf6g6 Be2h5 Rg6g5 Bh5f7
8/11/2008 9:20:30 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:12:00, Rated time: 12:00

0 of 1 matching moves
8/11/2008 9:20:30 PM, Total time: 12:12:06 AM
Rated time: 12:00 = 720 Seconds

[oreopoulos]

I dont know what the engine says, but i would probably play here Nc6 (since the rook does not have a good square, e8 falls to Qg6 and d8 to Bc7 both after Qg3) which seem at least =+ to me if not more.