A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert
You seem to have missed some posts of Chris Whittington in the thread "Rybka 1.0 vs Strelka".
take it easy :)
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert


ChrisW has offered to forward questions asked in this forum to Vas, and as far as I understand Vas has agreed to the procedure.

I think my question is simple and a positive answer would most probably end it all. So I give it a try.



// Christophe
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Hi irvstein1,

I have read some posts of yours in the Rybka forum that you have some ideas that could beat the mighty Rybka if you could share and collaborate with a good programmer. Maybe you should collaborate with Cristophe here. I am also interested in your idea and my engine is about as strong as that of Cristophe.
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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It is not an uncommon theory that Vas worked with another programmer to make Rybka 1.0. This would not be illegal in any way.
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert
Have you been following Bob's counter-arguements?

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... =99683;hl=

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... =&start=10
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Christophe
Tiger is a beutifull chess machine. Does have any sense say good bye before the endline of our targets and deals? You have done a top work. Some times we are rudes.
Best,
Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert
Have you been following Bob's counter-arguments?
Counter-arguments? This isn't a debate about the meaning of life. If it's a copy, then it should be a simple affair to prove, otherwise....

Albert
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
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Father wrote:Christophe
Tiger is a beutifull chess machine. Does have any sense say good bye before the endline of our targets and deals? You have done a top work. Some times we are rudes.
Best,
Pablo


I have reached my target: as far as I know Tiger in antihuman mode is able to resist your antichess strategies.

So if I quit, it's partly because of you! ;-)



// Christophe
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Albert Silver wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert
Have you been following Bob's counter-arguments?
Counter-arguments? This isn't a debate about the meaning of life. If it's a copy, then it should be a simple affair to prove, otherwise....

Albert
The Meaning of Life? Yes, that's easy! :wink:
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Re: A very simple question to Vas that can end it all

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Counter-question:

Why would he need one?

Albert
Isn't that obvious?

If Rybka were derived from Fruit in a legal way due to some agreement, then the argument about it is pointless. Christophe's post makes no accusations; he is only trying to ask a simple question as it has been subject to speculation.
Perhaps I am slow. I could have sworn I read:

"Rybka is and was always completely original. He is aware there are rumours about Fruit for a long time but never really understood where they are coming from."

which would seem to say such speculation was baseless. Forgive my lack of understanding. In any case, if he really wanted a reply, he would either e-mail him, or post in the Rybka forums. AFAIK Vas doesn't read here at all.

Albert
Have you been following Bob's counter-arguments?
Counter-arguments? This isn't a debate about the meaning of life. If it's a copy, then it should be a simple affair to prove, otherwise....

Albert
The Meaning of Life? Yes, that's easy! :wink:
Yes, or at least less prone to error. Though it wouldn't be the first time a program is so accused.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."