And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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Ovyron wrote:
beachknight wrote:PS : Rybka does not seem to be stoppable.
Yet. ;)
One day Rybka will get suprassed, just like any other program that lead for many years.
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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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swami wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:SlowChess has a new name! :lol:
So does Romichess...

I ain't that slow! :D
Romichess has more beta names than any other engine that I know of..

Superbeyotch
Warrior Princess
Death Kitty..
Goatka

to just name a few..
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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Ovyron wrote:
beachknight wrote:PS : Rybka does not seem to be stoppable.
Yet. ;)
One day Rybka will get suprassed, just like any other program that lead for many years.
Surpassing Rybka? This will not happen in a decade, I suppose.

Best,

PS: Tony, do you have the games of the tournament?
Games should be downloadable in ICC.
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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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beachknight wrote:Surpassing Rybka? This will not happen in a decade, I suppose.
Depends if Vas can keep up in the race, at this stage many people have surpassed Rybka 1.0, so it's just about time. Just as if Rybka came from the future.

If Vas doesn't keep improving Rybka someone will eventually catch up, and he may plateau at Rybka 4. Vas was a really clever programmer, perhaps someone more clever, not famous programmer will appear soon.
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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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Ovyron wrote:
beachknight wrote:Surpassing Rybka? This will not happen in a decade, I suppose.
Depends if Vas can keep up in the race, at this stage many people have surpassed Rybka 1.0, so it's just about time. Just as if Rybka came from the future.

If Vas doesn't keep improving Rybka someone will eventually catch up, and he may plateau at Rybka 4. Vas was a really clever programmer, perhaps someone more clever, not famous programmer will appear soon.
Perhaps group of programmers take part in actively developing Toga and improving it further? but I doubt it, for one reason most in Toga development don't have a 2300 elo level chess knowledge, and they don't know how to fine tune the material imbalance and assign piece values like the way Larry Kauffman does, and Vas implements them.

Btw, there's already an independent forum for Toga developers.
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Re: And the games from ACCA Pan Am, Nov 8-9 2008?

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I'm not a programmer and I've been wanting to ask this for a while:

What about fusing programs? I.E. take the best parts of Glaurung and Toga and make a new engine that is stronger than those alone, then just keep improving Toglaurung.

I'd like to know why isn't it possible or why it doesn't work?
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Ovyron wrote:I'm not a programmer and I've been wanting to ask this for a while:

What about fusing programs? I.E. take the best parts of Glaurung and Toga and make a new engine that is stronger than those alone, then just keep improving Toglaurung.

I'd like to know why isn't it possible or why it doesn't work?
Different programs, different code, hardly any new ideas in either of them worth substituting? I don't think It would be any better than 50 elo even if the best missing parts were merged.

Besides, what about the copy right issues?
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swami wrote:
Besides, what about the copy right issues?
LOL :D :D :D :D
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Ovyron wrote:
beachknight wrote:Surpassing Rybka? This will not happen in a decade, I suppose.
Depends if Vas can keep up in the race, at this stage many people have surpassed Rybka 1.0, so it's just about time. Just as if Rybka came from the future.

If Vas doesn't keep improving Rybka someone will eventually catch up, and he may plateau at Rybka 4. Vas was a really clever programmer, perhaps someone more clever, not famous programmer will appear soon.
Right, I agrreee.

Further, there is now another freeware Rybka, ie Rybka 2.2n2,
to catch.

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beachknight wrote:Further, there is now another freeware Rybka, ie Rybka 2.2n2,
to catch.
Yes, people talk about beating Rybka 3 this, and beating Rybka 3 that, but they've forgotten Rybka 2.2n2 and Rybka 2.3.2a are there on the way, first.