Harvey Williamson wrote:Rybka on its 52 core Cluster has become an awesome Chess entity, probably more powerful than Deep Blue. We all know that Deep Blue defeated Kasparov. Cluster Rybka would I am sure beat any GM or other engine in a match. But can it beat any other Chess entity?
The only engine to have finished ahead of Rybka in recent times in a major tournament is Hiarcs, probably the most consistent performer on the SSDF ratings list for almost 20 years.
I am organising a match in Central London. It will be played where the public can watch as well as all the usual internet streams on Playchess and ICC etc...
The match will be a Top GM + Hiarcs v Cluster Rybka. 6 games played over a week using a Fischer time control probably 90+30 or 90+60. Hiarcs will use hardware that fits in 1 box, probably a dual Nehalem system. The GM will have access to CB10 and opening books. He will not see the Rybka opening book, the only engine he can load is Hiarcs.
I have discussed the match with Vas Rajlich who has agreed to play. I have a top GM lined up and a venue in Central London. I just need to raise a few thousand Euros to make it all happen. 3 sponsors so far have promised some cash towards the event.
Would you like to contribute? If so please get in touch with me via a Private message. This is a match that will interest the media and promote Computer Chess.
Very nice and intersting - I hope it will be a great success, but if Rybka run in one box, even a dual Nehalem, it is not a cluster. To my understanding a cluster has to be at least 2 seperate computers (whatever is inside) connected by a network.
Nevertheless, I am looking forward to see that!
Bye
Ingo
Hi Ingo,
Rybka will run on the biggest Cluster it can put together currently 52 cores! Hiarcs is restricted to one box.
Best Wishes,
Harvey
Right, slight missunderstanding, sorry.
The question is if Rybka is really better on 52 cores, but that to decide is on them!
Interesting. With the help of an engine GM will not make relevant errors, mainly when time is short.
Harvey, the GM will can play as a Centaur, seeking better moves?
PauloSoare wrote:Interesting. With the help of an engine GM will not make relevant errors, mainly when time is short.
Harvey, the GM will can play as a Centaur, seeking better moves?
Yes he plays as centaur - but only with Hiarcs engine - he can use Chessbase and books during the opening.
Steve B wrote:Very Interesting Match Harvey
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
I disagree
Rybka is a clear favourite to win the match unless there is some big improvement in hiarcs(if hiarcs is stronger than rybka3).
I even expect the GM+normal rybka3 on similiar hardware to lose a similiar match against a big cluster that is supported by newer rybka than rybka3.
Steve B wrote:Very Interesting Match Harvey
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
I disagree
Rybka is a clear favourite to win the match unless there is some big improvement in hiarcs(if hiarcs is stronger than rybka3).
I even expect the GM+normal rybka3 on similiar hardware to lose a similiar match against a big cluster that is supported by newer rybka than rybka3.
Uri
Uri if you had said 'I agree' I would have cancelled the match
Steve B wrote:Very Interesting Match Harvey
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
I disagree
Rybka is a clear favourite to win the match unless there is some big improvement in hiarcs(if hiarcs is stronger than rybka3).
I even expect the GM+normal rybka3 on similiar hardware to lose a similiar match against a big cluster that is supported by newer rybka than rybka3.
Uri
Uri if you had said 'I agree' I would have cancelled the match
erev tov,
Harvey
I agree, Uri Rarely agrees ...
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Steve B wrote:Very Interesting Match Harvey
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
I disagree
Rybka is a clear favourite to win the match unless there is some big improvement in hiarcs(if hiarcs is stronger than rybka3).
I even expect the GM+normal rybka3 on similiar hardware to lose a similiar match against a big cluster that is supported by newer rybka than rybka3.
Uri
Uri if you had said 'I agree' I would have cancelled the match
erev tov,
Harvey
Good luck. Should be interesting. Its a sure thing now that the
match will be played. Thanks Uri.
What is the difference between this and the freestyle chess tournaments? Except your tournament has 2 players and the freestyle chess tournaments have more than 30 players.
Mark
mschribr wrote:What is the difference between this and the freestyle chess tournaments? Except your tournament has 2 players and the freestyle chess tournaments have more than 30 players.
Mark
Yes - and I'm not sure Hiarcs is the best choice for the GM to use. An excellent choice, yes, no doubt at all, but not the best choice ? Something like Zappa, Naum, Deep Fritz 11 might be better
