BigLion and burn out

[Christopher Conkie]

Hi Matthias,

you've done a fantastic job developing ChessGUI, so I can well understand that you need a break.
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.

Or we should whip him......

... if only that could help

Bend over....

Let's try it.

Christopher

[slobo]

For quite some time, I shall just watch my engines play and lose against equal or weaker engines.

Maybe the impulse would then be to fix things somehow.

Just a therapeutical thought,
Matthias.

Ha ha ha

You will let them trash you in order to acumulate motivation to react.
And your motivation will be "instinct for survival".
I liked this strategy: it is based on Darwin´s theory.

[Engin]

hi matthias,
i like you GUI , you have do great work for this, continue on the GUI , sure is chess engine programming more boring as a GUI.

maybe your GUI is the best GUI ever !!!

[Matthias Gemuh]

hi matthias,
i like you GUI , you have do great work for this, continue on the GUI , sure is chess engine programming more boring as a GUI.

maybe your GUI is the best GUI ever !!!

Thanks, Engin.
So you are now able to run tournaments in ChessGUI ?
Have you tried Chess960 with Tornado in ChessGUI ?
ChessGUI is good for just playing tournaments and collecting pgn.
Internet shall follow later.

Matthias.

[fern]

One clear, powerful reason to surrender to boredom in this field is the fact that, opposite to write books, you are fighting for a position in an obejtive scale of quality where others are already in top positions.
I, as novelist, know that there is people like Shakespeare overthere I will not beat, but I still can do muy thing according to my mood and that`'s OK.
In chess you play with the same rules and fight for being the best under the same system of measures.
I imagine what a programmer feels looking at Rybka and knowing all the work neccesary not to be original, but to defeat it.

My Goodness....
Fern

[Matthias Gemuh]

One clear, powerful reason to surrender to boredom in this field is the fact that, opposite to write books, you are fighting for a position in an obejtive scale of quality where others are already in top positions.
I, as novelist, know that there is people like Shakespeare overthere I will not beat, but I still can do muy thing according to my mood and that`'s OK.
In chess you play with the same rules and fight for being the best under the same system of measures.
I imagine what a programmer feels looking at Rybka and knowing all the work neccesary not to be original, but to defeat it.

My Goodness....
Fern

Very right, Fernando.

BTW, Shakespeare was so good in his work that many people today still don't believe that he was one man.
They say Shakespeare must have been a group of very talented writers.

regards,
Matthias.

[Dann Corbit]

One clear, powerful reason to surrender to boredom in this field is the fact that, opposite to write books, you are fighting for a position in an obejtive scale of quality where others are already in top positions.
I, as novelist, know that there is people like Shakespeare overthere I will not beat, but I still can do muy thing according to my mood and that`'s OK.
In chess you play with the same rules and fight for being the best under the same system of measures.
I imagine what a programmer feels looking at Rybka and knowing all the work neccesary not to be original, but to defeat it.

My Goodness....
Fern

If the only goal is to beat Rybka, then perhaps 1% of all good programmers has even a chance to do it. I think that "world's strongest chess program" is a laudable goal, but not the only goal.

"A chess program that plays all the legal moves" is a hard enough accomplishment. "A chess program that plays all the legal moves and is nearly bug free" is even more impressive.

Every working chess program is a very nice accomplishment.

A painter who sets a goal "I want to paint more realistically than Andrew Wyeth" will have a high hurdle to jump.

A basketball player who wants to become better and more famous than Michael Jordan will have a tough row to hoe.

If we aim too high, we set ourselves up for failure. So I always try to set a goal that I have a realistic chance to achieve. Then if I reach it, it is a triump for me.

[Dann Corbit]

One clear, powerful reason to surrender to boredom in this field is the fact that, opposite to write books, you are fighting for a position in an obejtive scale of quality where others are already in top positions.
I, as novelist, know that there is people like Shakespeare overthere I will not beat, but I still can do muy thing according to my mood and that`'s OK.
In chess you play with the same rules and fight for being the best under the same system of measures.
I imagine what a programmer feels looking at Rybka and knowing all the work neccesary not to be original, but to defeat it.

My Goodness....
Fern

Very right, Fernando.

BTW, Shakespeare was so good in his work that many people today still don't believe that he was one man.
They say Shakespeare must have been a group of very talented writers.

regards,
Matthias.

Such things are uttered by little men who cannot imagine that anyone can be so much better than they are.

It reminds me of the rumors that went around that Rod Sterling must have been on drugs to imagine all those fanciful things. But if that were the real secret, then why aren't one million drug addicts all writing Rod Sterling scripts?

[fern]

It is difficult, Dan, in a purely competitive field as chess is, to put aside the issue of who is the best. Maybe there are programmers that aims just to get a nice gui or his program to play under the rules, but I suppose 99% of them aim for glory as the strongest.
I leave aside of this the 100% amateur programer that could be happy just to play chess with his contrivance.

If I was a mountain climber, i would be dissapointed if from campament A I could see other guys in the top, eating hot dogs. Surely I would go down to the next bar

Fern

[Christopher Conkie]

One clear, powerful reason to surrender to boredom in this field is the fact that, opposite to write books, you are fighting for a position in an obejtive scale of quality where others are already in top positions.
I, as novelist, know that there is people like Shakespeare overthere I will not beat, but I still can do muy thing according to my mood and that`'s OK.
In chess you play with the same rules and fight for being the best under the same system of measures.
I imagine what a programmer feels looking at Rybka and knowing all the work neccesary not to be original, but to defeat it.

My Goodness....
Fern

This last post is one of the very few beautiful posts in here.

It should be framed. One should never give up and even if you think you are worse.....to some you are not.

Never stop trying....ever.

Christopher