Rybka 3 vs Toby-Tal , Game 1

[Edward German]

Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )

Game 1 was a draw with Rybka 3 playing white.
i-7 quad @ 3.75 GHz , single core each , Game/15 mins , ponder off , no tablebases , OB's truncated to 4 moves , Rybka using Rybka 3 ctg , and Toby using MyBook 19 ctg....... Also , I clicked off the Hyper-Tal feature....

Here is the game from Toby-Tal's perspective :

[Event "Blitz:15'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.01.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka 3"]
[Black "Toby 1q 1 CPU"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "198"]
[EventDate "2010.01.07"]
[TimeControl "900"]

{512MB, Mybook19.ctg, TOMGLENN-PC} 1. e4 {0} Nc6 {B/0 0} 2. Nf3 {4} e5 {B/0 0}
3. Bb5 {4} Bc5 {B/0 0} 4. O-O {5} Nd4 {B/0 0} 5. Nxd4 {35} Bxd4 {0.10/19 26} 6.
c3 {76} Bb6 {0.10/17 0} 7. d4 {23} c6 {0.05/18 18} 8. Bc4 {82} d6 {0.00/17 8}
9. dxe5 {32} dxe5 {0.05/14 0} 10. Qxd8+ {20} Bxd8 {0.00/19 6} 11. Rd1 {35} Nf6
{0.05/18 7} 12. f3 {13} b5 {-0.10/19 14} 13. Be2 {36} Be6 {0.10/20 38} 14. Kf1
{25} Nd7 {-0.05/18 8} 15. a4 {16} bxa4 {-0.20/21 23} 16. Rd6 {19} Nc5 {-0.15/
20 6} 17. Be3 {46} Nb3 {-0.15/21 11} 18. Rxa4 {24} Ke7 {-0.15/19 1} 19. Rxe6+ {
33} fxe6 {-0.15/21 6} 20. Ra3 {16} Rb8 {-0.15/19 0} 21. Bxa7 {46} Rb7 {-0.05/
21 8} 22. Be3 {17} Kf6 {0.05/21 15} 23. Ra8 {66} Rf8 {0.05/22 16} 24. Ra6 {11}
Be7 {0.00/21 8} 25. Rxc6 {15} Na5 {0.05/22 24} 26. Rb6 {15} Rxb6 {0.05/22 5}
27. Bxb6 {12} Nb3 {-0.10/23 8} 28. Bd1 {14} Rb8 {0.00/22 16} 29. Be3 {15} Bc5 {
0.00/24 26} 30. Bxc5 {19} Nxc5 {-0.10/22 7} 31. b4 {7} Nd3 {-0.10/24 10} 32.
Bc2 {32} Nb2 {-0.20/22 6} 33. Ke2 {14} Ra8 {-0.15/22 4} 34. g3 {15} Ke7 {-0.20/
21 4} 35. Kd2 {23} Rd8+ {-0.25/23 18} 36. Ke2 {15} g5 {-0.25/23 3} 37. Nd2 {37}
Rc8 {-0.30/23 8} 38. Nb1 {11} Ra8 {-0.30/23 3} 39. Kd2 {24} Ra1 {-0.35/21 3}
40. Ke2 {19} Kd6 {-0.40/22 6} 41. g4 {41} Kc6 {-0.35/22 5} 42. Kd2 {22} Kc7 {
-0.35/24 5} 43. Kc1 {12} Nc4 {-0.35/23 3} 44. Bd3 {35} Ne3 {-0.30/22 15} 45.
Kb2 {25} Ra8 {-0.30/22 5} 46. c4 {31} h5 {-0.35/21 4} 47. h3 {30} h4 {-0.35/22
14} 48. c5 {18} Nd1+ {-0.35/22 3} 49. Kb3 {8} Ra1 {-0.35/23 5} 50. Kc2 {12} Nf2
{-0.35/24 3} 51. Bf1 {9} Kc6 {-0.35/24 3} 52. Kb2 {10} Ra8 {-0.35/24 2} 53. Nd2
{11} Nd1+ {-0.35/23 2} 54. Kb3 {4} Ne3 {-0.35/24 4} 55. Bd3 {8} Ra1 {-0.20/24
23} 56. Bb1 {10} Ra7 {-0.20/24 5} 57. Bd3 {9} Ra8 {-0.20/23 2} 58. Kb2 {13} Ra4
{-0.20/23 3} 59. Kb3 {17} Ra7 {-0.20/24 3} 60. Kb2 {16} Nd1+ {-0.20/23 2} 61.
Kb3 {7} Nf2 {-0.20/24 5} 62. Bf1 {4} Ra1 {-0.20/24 2} 63. Kb2 {9} Ra4 {-0.20/
23 4} 64. Kb3 {17} Ra7 {-0.15/24 6} 65. Kc4 {13} Rd7 {-0.35/22 50} 66. b5+ {28}
Kc7 {-0.35/21 0} 67. b6+ {8} Kb7 {-0.35/20 2} 68. Nb3 {28} Rd1 {-0.35/18 0} 69.
Be2 {14} Re1 {-0.60/22 3} 70. Bd3 {4} Ka6 {-0.60/21 0} 71. Bc2 {24} Nxh3 {-0.
60/21 3} 72. Na5 {19} Nf4 {-0.60/22 11} 73. b7 {42} Ka7 {-0.60/21 0} 74. c6 {16
} Rc1 {-0.35/23 7} 75. Kb3 {9} Kb8 {-0.35/22 3} 76. Nc4 {16} Ne2 {-0.35/22 2}
77. Kb2 {7} Rxc2+ {-0.35/22 2} 78. Kxc2 {5} Nd4+ {-0.65/23 5} 79. Kd1 {6} h3 {
-0.85/24 8} 80. Nxe5 {6} Ka7 {-0.85/24 8} 81. Nd3 {6} h2 {-0.85/26 3} 82. Nf2 {
4} Nxf3 {-0.85/27 5} 83. Ke2 {5} Ne5 {-0.85/25 0} 84. Kf1 {4} Nxg4 {-0.85/26 2}
85. Nh1 {4} Ne5 {-0.85/25 0} 86. Kg2 {7} Nxc6 {-0.60/26 3} 87. Ng3 {12} Kxb7 {
-0.40/29 23} 88. Nh5 {9} h1=R {-0.40/29 11} 89. Kxh1 {9} Nd8 {-0.35/29 8} 90.
Kg2 {5} Kc6 {-0.25/29 4} 91. Kg3 {6} Kc5 {-0.25/28 2} 92. Ng7 {6} Kd6 {0.00/26
11} 93. Kg4 {4} Nf7 {0.00/26 3} 94. Ne8+ {5} Kc6 {0.00/27 4} 95. Ng7 {7} Kd7 {
0.00/26 1} 96. e5 {4} Ke7 {0.00/26 2} 97. Nh5 {7} Nxe5+ {0.00/27 2} 98. Kxg5 {4
} Kf7 {0.00/26 1} 99. Nf4 {10} Nf3+ {0.00/27 1} *

Moves, eval and search of the Toby-Tal, are identical to a version of RobboLito. For me, this Toby-Tal is a another version of Robbolito only!

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

computer chess could be very expensive 2010

Best
Frank

Totaly agreed Frank
Dr.D

[George Tsavdaris]

Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )

Perhaps you can do me(and us) a big favor and make some tests with this program.

1)Load the above position and let it run for about 1 minute and post the results.
[d]k5K1/1R6/PP5r/8/5p1P/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1

2)Go to C:\Program files\TobyChess products\Deep Tactics 7.5\Engines and click on TobyTal.exe and tell us what is its size.

3)Perhaps you can even use UPX(http://upx.sourceforge.net/) to test if the executable is UPXed.
For example put UPX and TobyTal.exe into one folder, open UPX through CMD or something and write:
upx -l TobyTal.exe
And tell us the results.


4)Programmers can find more clever and sophisticated ways for seeing if this TobyTal is a Robbolito/Ippolit related engine.


Thanks in advance, for doing any of these....

[David Dahlem]

Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )

Under this heading "Toby Tal with Deep Tactics 7.5" I see this statement -

"TobyTal runs inside of the TobyChess program Deep Tactics as one of the engines."

Have you looked at the Deep Tactics interface and what can you tell us about it?

[WuShock]

1) (5.40) / Depth =25 / 3032kN/s / 0:01:08

1..... Rh8+
2.Kg7 , Rh7+
3.Kg6 , Rh6+
4.Kf5 , Rh5+
5.Ke4 , Re5+
6.Kxf4 , Rf5+
7.Ke4 , Rf4+
8.Ke5 , Rf5+
9.Ke6 , Rf6+
10.Kd5 , Rf5+

2) 123 KB

3)( open UPX through CMD or something ) ?? Not really sure what that's all about ......... I'm not much of a computer geek......... If you give me step by step , basic instructions , I'll try it.........

[alpha123]

1) (5.40) / Depth =25 / 3032kN/s / 0:01:08

1..... Rh8+
2.Kg7 , Rh7+
3.Kg6 , Rh6+
4.Kf5 , Rh5+
5.Ke4 , Re5+
6.Kxf4 , Rf5+
7.Ke4 , Rf4+
8.Ke5 , Rf5+
9.Ke6 , Rf6+
10.Kd5 , Rf5+

2) 123 KB

3)( open UPX through CMD or something ) ?? Not really sure what that's all about ......... I'm not much of a computer geek......... If you give me step by step , basic instructions , I'll try it.........

1. Download UPX from http://upx.sourceforge.net/
2. Go to Start->All Programs->Accessories and click on "Command Prompt"
3. Type "cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal" (no quotes)
4. Type "C:\upx\upx.exe -l TobyTal.exe" (also no quotes)
5. Tell us the result

Substitute C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal with wherever you installed TobyTal and C:\upx with wherever you installed UPX.

Good luck,
Peter

[Matthias Gemuh]

1. Download UPX from http://upx.sourceforge.net/
2. Go to Start->All Programs->Accessories and click on "Command Prompt"
3. Type "cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal" (no quotes)
4. Type "C:\upx\upx.exe -l TobyTal.exe" (also no quotes)
5. Tell us the result

Substitute C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal with wherever you installed TobyTal and C:\upx with wherever you installed UPX.

Good luck,
Peter

After typing in step 3, press ENTER/RETURN key.
After typing in step 4, press ENTER/RETURN key.

.

[WuShock]

1. Download UPX from http://upx.sourceforge.net/
2. Go to Start->All Programs->Accessories and click on "Command Prompt"
3. Type "cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal" (no quotes)
4. Type "C:\upx\upx.exe -l TobyTal.exe" (also no quotes)
5. Tell us the result

Substitute C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal with wherever you installed TobyTal and C:\upx with wherever you installed UPX.

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Sorry , can't even figure out the 3rd step............

When I open the Command Prompt window, it automatically has :
C:\Users\Tom Glenn>

Then when I type in something , it follows all that , so it ends up :
C:\Users\Tom Glenn> cd C:\Chess Engines\ TOBY go
and I get " The system cannot find the path specified "

[FWCC]

Have you played any games with the TAL feature ENABLED?

[Carlos777]

1. Download UPX from http://upx.sourceforge.net/
2. Go to Start->All Programs->Accessories and click on "Command Prompt"
3. Type "cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal" (no quotes)
4. Type "C:\upx\upx.exe -l TobyTal.exe" (also no quotes)
5. Tell us the result

Substitute C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal with wherever you installed TobyTal and C:\upx with wherever you installed UPX.

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Sorry , can't even figure out the 3rd step............

When I open the Command Prompt window, it automatically has :
C:\Users\Tom Glenn>

Then when I type in something , it follows all that , so it ends up :
C:\Users\Tom Glenn> cd C:\Chess Engines\ TOBY go
and I get " The system cannot find the path specified "

2.5. Type cd\
3. Type "cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Toby Chess Products\TobyTal" (no quotes)
4. ...