Has Rybka 4 delays affected your hardware buying decisions

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Has the Rybka 4 delay changed your Hardware purchases

Poll ended at Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:29 am

Didn't affect my decisions
33
77%
Somewhat changed my purchases
1
2%
Made purchases that I could have waited until later
0
No votes
Will buy another chess program and never buy the weaken Rybka software
9
21%
 
Total votes: 43

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daniel71 wrote:These laptops offer the same performance as a desktop computer they are just really expensive because they use a desktop processor instead of a mobile i7 Intel processor and the desktop processors offer 90% to 100% faster performance than the fastest mobile quad-core processor so it is better to spend the money ($1000 processor) on a desktop processor than spending $1000 on the fastest mobile extreme which is twice as slow. Maximum PC magazine did a review on it here: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/review ... rect_d900f

Yes its heavy the power brick is impressive as its a desktop replacement. I had bought a Sager laptop before and it had a desktop processor but it was not like I wanted a lightweight computer as I wanted the most powerful one available. I was also looking at the Toshiba Qosmio models before the newest one is this: http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=460942
These Toshibas would be lighter but would be much slower as they use the mobile Intel i7 quad-core processors.
Wow,the Toshiba looks great :D

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But I think it's way too expensve for what it offers....
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Rendruk wrote:All you people needs to seriously re-evaluate how you spend your money.

Unless you're either rich, single, or both.


Just thinking about people rushing out to spend 4 grand or more because a new software version is coming out and they want to watch it beat other machines at chess makes me chuckle.

I understand the allure of being the best at anything; trust me on that account. However, this is a about being the best vicariously, or having the best computer -- which in essence is actually about who has more money to spend!

I think people lose sight of that or something.

The only thing separating #2 from #1 on the play chess server is how they tweaked their opening book and who has the better computer.

I'll respect hand-tuning an opening book because that takes a lot of skill and knowledge, but as for who can afford what... I don't find that impressive at all!

In fact it makes me a little sad when I think about how my father used to buy himself nice expensive things and give the family sub-par Christmas's, Birthdays, and nights out.

I don't think we ever took a real vacation as a family when I was a kid but you can be darned sure my dad always had a top of the line new computer.

Of course, even back then I understood that as the person putting bread on our table he had all the right in the world to spend it as he saw fit. I still understand that and I don't condemn him for those decisions. Really though, no Vacation for 18 years?

I'm just saying that there are some things in life more important, at least to me.

Priorities here, people! Thanks.
You'll never have the best computer for a reliable period of time....once you buy it,6 months later at best the newer and of course the more powerful generation is right around the corner not to mention the overclockers who will always make you feel like fully retardant regarding your newly bought hardware :wink:
So my point is that you're right in general terms so to speak....
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I can't seem to vote either. I already cleared my cache and tried again. Still no. In fact, I don't think I have been able to vote in any polls since I tried voting in the elections (which I haven't been registered long enough for, as I later found out).

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The delay has had NO effect on my hardware purchase. It has however made me decide to not purchase it ever.
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It has actually.

I don't know whether to get another run of the mill quad, or a 128bit machine like Toby has.

Decisions.. decisions..
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Peter Skinner wrote:It has actually.

I don't know whether to get another run of the mill quad, or a 128bit machine like Toby has.

Decisions.. decisions..
Oh yeah, one of those would be great! :D
Sadly, I think we would have to get his programmer out of hiding to write the 128-bit OS for us.......:P

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alpha123 wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:It has actually.

I don't know whether to get another run of the mill quad, or a 128bit machine like Toby has.

Decisions.. decisions..
Oh yeah, one of those would be great! :D
Sadly, I think we would have to get his programmer out of hiding to write the 128-bit OS for us.......:P

Peter
Well I am near certain if someone runs two copies of 64bit Rybka on a 128bit system, they would only need a 64bit operating system with 128bit hardware.

Just as if you use 4 copies of the 32bit Rybka on a 128bit machine, you have a mini cluster :)
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Peter Skinner wrote:
alpha123 wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:It has actually.

I don't know whether to get another run of the mill quad, or a 128bit machine like Toby has.

Decisions.. decisions..
Oh yeah, one of those would be great! :D
Sadly, I think we would have to get his programmer out of hiding to write the 128-bit OS for us.......:P

Peter
Well I am near certain if someone runs two copies of 64bit Rybka on a 128bit system, they would only need a 64bit operating system with 128bit hardware.

Just as if you use 4 copies of the 32bit Rybka on a 128bit machine, you have a mini cluster :)

Why a 64bit OS ... I would prefer a 128bit OS and then run it on that 128 bit machine. On that platform Toby chess will probably beat Rybka 88 times in a row.
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Peter Skinner wrote:It has actually.

I don't know whether to get another run of the mill quad, or a 128bit machine like Toby has.

Decisions.. decisions..
128 bit? There's no such PC processor that is 128 bit.

Such processors may exist but not for PC's at the moment.

Exactly what are we talking about here, mainframes, super computers?

Even they cheifly use 64 bit processors.

What is Toby Tal run on?
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M ANSARI wrote: Why a 64bit OS ... I would prefer a 128bit OS and then run it on that 128 bit machine. On that platform Toby chess will probably beat Rybka 88 times in a row.
I was being sarcastic...

If you remember Toby stated Toby Chess was created on a 128bit machine, but is only 32bit. :P
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