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Re: tablebases

Post by LiquidNitrogenOverclocker »

Sylwy wrote:
LiquidNitrogenOverclocker wrote:There's another set of endgame databases that can be both probed in RAM for distance-to-win as well as read off of the disk.

I bet you never considered these :

http://www.gothicchess.com/javascript_endings.html

Hi !

Was only a summarizing discussion. They were a lot of endgame bases in history. Ken Thompson bases for example (LChess/Lokasoft, ChessGenius series... ) and many more.
Also about storage.You can use internal/external HDDs, flash memories....
Also about the path to won/draw ......

Regards,
Silvian
Yes, but take a second look at this (it might take a while to figure it out)

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Re: tablebases

Post by Sylwy »

LiquidNitrogenOverclocker wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
LiquidNitrogenOverclocker wrote:There's another set of endgame databases that can be both probed in RAM for distance-to-win as well as read off of the disk.

I bet you never considered these :

http://www.gothicchess.com/javascript_endings.html

Hi !

Was only a summarizing discussion. They were a lot of endgame bases in history. Ken Thompson bases for example (LChess/Lokasoft, ChessGenius series... ) and many more.
Also about storage.You can use internal/external HDDs, flash memories....
Also about the path to won/draw ......

Regards,
Silvian
Yes, but take a second look at this (it might take a while to figure it out)

Image

:)
8x10 ?
He he he ! Interesting chess !

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Re: tablebases

Post by Dann Corbit »

michiguel wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
maxchgr wrote:This may be a novice question.. I understand that Nalimov tablebases are tough on disk space, but I read that shredderbases are not. My eye caught 'scorpio bases' somewhere as well. I'd like to know if it's possible to have one of these shredderbases or scorpio bases or the like to be used with any chess engine I have running? In chessbase, it asks for the directory of tablebases... is that for nalimov tablebases only?

Thank you
Hi Maksim !

1.Shredderbases,Fritzbases & RobboTripleBase ( :lol: ) are compressed EGBBs loaded into memory at every start of the engine. They are used in search. Show only the evaluation if a position is won/draw.
2.Nalimov EGTBs can be used ( consulted )-from HDD- by both engine & GUI and show us the exactly path to victory/draw.
3.Scorpio EGBBs ( used by Scorpio , Toga and other chess engines ) are only normal EGBBs - they aren't load into memory.Only consulted.And show -like all BBs - if a position is won/draw.
4.All modern ChessBase GUIs used only Nalimov EGTBs .
5.Some modern chess engines can use both compressed BBs loaded into PC memory and Nalimov TBs ( or similar ) - Shredder, Fritz, IvanHoe ( :lol: ).
Are you sure IvanHoe can use Nalimov? I doubt it.

Miguel
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Silvian
IvanHoe uses something called Robbobases
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Re: tablebases

Post by JAMerolle »

does RobboTripleBase load when you load the engine or is it a seperate download and path that needs to be set?