The complete other ratinglist, only fast games, part 1/3

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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Oh I forgot, sorry ...

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Games        :   7109 (finished)

White Wins   :   4335 (61.0 %)
Black Wins   :   2774 (39.0 %)
Draws        :      0 ( 0.0 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 61.0 %
Black Perf.  : 39.0 %

ECO A =   2806 Games (39.5 %)
ECO B =   1413 Games (19.9 %)
ECO C =    947 Games (13.3 %)
ECO D =   1361 Games (19.1 %)
ECO E =    580 Games ( 8.2 %)
We can speak about it :-)
Or better not ... to complicated!

The stiatics for the games 1:0, 0:1 without draw games I used for the calculations.

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Frank
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Re: And here the same with Bayesian ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

look here ...
only on the results ...

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06 Spark 1.0 x64                  3193  138  112   113   94%  2519    0% 
75 Shredder 12 w32                2800   46   45   342   64%  2614    0% 
UPS ...

normaly ...

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49 Shredder 12 w32                2800    8    8  6608   61%  2722   36%
65 Spark 1.0 x64                  2760   13   13  2160   49%  2769   40%
Normaly Shredder 12 w32 is 40 ELO stronger as Spark 1.0 x64. In fast win games we have a complete other situation. Spark 1.0 x64 is 393 ELO stronger.

Let us make again the compare and let us compare the statistics between Shredder 12 w32 and Spark 1.0 x64.

Shredder 12 w32

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84 Shredder 12 w32           : 2800  342 (+219,=  0,-123), 64.0 %

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49 Shredder 12 w32                2800    8    8  6608   61%  2722   36%
Calculation: 123 x 100 : 6.608 = 1,86% lost games
Calculation: 219 x 100 : 6.608 = 3,31% won games

Not bad on the other hand not really good (normaly results).

And now ...
Spark 1.0 x64

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14 Spark 1.0 x64             : 3084  113 (+106,=  0,-  7), 93.8 %

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65 Spark 1.0 x64                  2760   13   13  2160   49%  2769   40%
Calculation: 013 x 100 : 3.084 = 0,42% lost games
Calculation: 113 x 100 : 3.084 = 3,66% won games

Hm, fantastic king safty after the opening book by Spark 1.0 x64. Hm, the mate statictics from older versions are clearly better.

OK, OK ... perhaps one of the readers have interest to create for all 170 engines this statistics.

Need a while, I know ...

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Frank
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Re: And here the same with Bayesian ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Of course, if an user calculate all for 170 games we must set the results in a ratio.

Example:
SF PHQ result 7,75 won games
Crafty 23.4 1,58 won games

ELO difference = 330
We need a ratio from ELO difference to the result and we know which one is most aggressive :-)

Not do that yet but if you look in the table its clear ...
Very strong is: Stockfish, Spark, Houdini, Junior and Critter
Very bad is: Ivanhoe (for the ELO Ivanhoe have, not enough fast win games, passiv after the opening).

An order for a programmer to create such a program :-)

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Re: I forgot the Bayesian table ... here is it!

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 1.5 x64                3381  162  118   148   97%  2584    0% 
   2 Critter 1.2 x64                3332  233  153    96   98%  2556    0% 
   3 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     3239  128  106   112   92%  2618    0% 
   4 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         3208  210  151    67   96%  2538    0% 
   5 Critter 0.90 x64               3197  167  127    58   91%  2665    0% 
   6 Spark 1.0 x64                  3193  138  112   113   94%  2519    0% 
   7 Junior 12.5.0.3 w32            3167  301  187    22   95%  2624    0% 
   8 Houdini 1.03a x64              3163  236  158    50   96%  2512    0% 
   9 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA w32         3160  230  150    47   96%  2605    0% 
  10 Rybka 4.1 w32                  3143  492  283    12  100%  2484    0% 
  11 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA w32         3141  239  162    51   96%  2459    0% 
  12 Spark 0.4 x64                  3130  249  177    46   96%  2402    0% 
  13 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             3123  147  121    75   91%  2553    0% 
  14 Stockfish 1.8.0 JA x64         3109  176  139    50   90%  2576    0% 
  15 Protector 1.4.0 JA x64         3091  122  109    67   82%  2655    0% 
  16 Stockfish 1.6.0 JA w32         3074  145  114    49   88%  2697    0% 
  17 IvanHoe B52aC x64              3064  169  143    40   85%  2630    0% 
  18 Stockfish 1.8.0 JA w32         3059  183  138    39   90%  2624    0% 
  19 Rybka 4 x64                    3057  165  126    79   94%  2433    0% 
  20 IvanHoe B49jA x64              3047  128  114    73   85%  2538    0% 
  21 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA x64         3047  152  122    72   92%  2446    0% 
  22 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    3046  156  126    58   90%  2530    0% 
  23 Critter 1.2 w32                3041  234  175    19   89%  2628    0% 
  24 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         3038  125  110    63   83%  2617    0% 
  25 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            3031  146  123    47   83%  2655    0% 
  26 Critter 0.90 w32               3013  145  121    59   88%  2513    0% 
  27 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            3012  143  128    55   82%  2596    0% 
  28 Junior 12.5.0.3 x64            3010   98   90    94   80%  2647    0% 
  29 Critter 0.80 w32               3006  179  150    24   79%  2696    0% 
  30 Rybka 4.1 x64                  3002  109  100    70   77%  2668    0% 
  31 Spark 0.4 w32                  2995  155  127    36   83%  2658    0% 
  32 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2986  136  115    72   86%  2474    0% 
  33 Junior 12.0 x64                2985   90   84   124   81%  2515    0% 
  34 Rybka 4 w32                    2972  129  110    55   84%  2601    0% 
  35 Fritz 12 w32                   2970  127  107    48   81%  2679    0% 
  36 Critter 1.01 x64               2967  120  109    66   76%  2650    0% 
  37 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2966  120  108    69   80%  2599    0% 
  38 Protector 1.3.6-370 JA x64     2957  137  122    71   86%  2396    0% 
  39 Houdini 1.5 w32                2955  180  143    31   87%  2558    0% 
  40 Spark 0.5 x64                  2954   93   84   146   87%  2424    0% 
  41 Spark 0.5 w32                  2954  121  107    56   80%  2618    0% 
  42 Fire 1.31 x64                  2947  135  118    48   81%  2576    0% 
  43 Deep Fritz 12 w32              2944   98   89    84   80%  2607    0% 
  44 Junior 12.0 w32                2942  112   99    78   83%  2540    0% 
  45 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2941  132  115    53   81%  2572    0% 
  46 Stockfish 1.9.1 JA x64         2939  155  130    65   89%  2331    0% 
  47 Naum 4.1 w32                   2934  135  117    38   76%  2686    0% 
  48 Junior 2010 w32                2920   89   82    73   73%  2700    0% 
  49 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA w32         2920  322  210    12   92%  2522    0% 
  50 Hiarcs 13.2 w32                2909   69   66   165   72%  2633    0% 
  51 Stockfish 1.9.1 JA w32         2908  130  116    42   76%  2621    0% 
  52 Naum 4.2 x64                   2903   72   69   193   78%  2499    0% 
  53 Stockfish 1.6.3 JA w32         2894  113  102    50   74%  2663    0% 
  54 Protector 1.3.4 JA x64         2893  125  104    90   90%  2389    0% 
  55 Spark 0.3a w32                 2882  125  109    43   77%  2626    0% 
  56 Naum 4.2 w32                   2881   86   80   109   77%  2551    0% 
  57 Sjeng c't 2010 w32             2879   63   61   201   74%  2551    0% 
  58 Junior 11.2 x64                2865   88   84   110   75%  2528    0% 
  59 Spark 0.3 w32                  2865  115  108    41   66%  2711    0% 
  60 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32           2855   62   60   205   75%  2514    0% 
  61 Critter 0.80 x64               2847  104   93    89   83%  2403    0% 
  62 Spark 1.0 w32                  2842  114  101    61   79%  2527    0% 
  63 Protector 1.3.1b w32           2839  145  132    27   67%  2682    0% 
  64 Protector 1.3.2 w32            2839  127  120    34   65%  2692    0% 
  65 Rybka 3 w32                    2838  108  102    44   64%  2707    0% 
  66 Junior 11.2 w32                2829   92   88    71   66%  2658    0% 
  67 Hiarcs 13.1 w32                2827   62   60   188   71%  2569    0% 
  68 Fire 2.2 xTreme w32            2825  230  190    15   80%  2518    0% 
  69 Stockfish 1.5.1 JA w32         2820  114  104    46   72%  2611    0% 
  70 Protector 1.3.4 JA w32         2814   98   93    59   66%  2657    0% 
  71 Komodo 1.0 JA x64              2812  142  126    45   80%  2436    0% 
  72 IvanHoe B47cB w32              2809  217  207    11   64%  2655    0% 
  73 Protector 1.4.0 JA w32         2806  100   91    76   76%  2509    0% 
  74 Hannibal 1.0a x64              2803   74   72   131   66%  2594    0% 
  75 Shredder 12 w32                2800   46   45   342   64%  2614    0% 
  76 Naum 4.0 w32                   2797  130  123    28   61%  2713    0% 
  77 Komodo 1.3 JA x64              2791  113  108    53   57%  2730    0% 
  78 Thinker 5.4d Inert x64         2787   63   61   210   69%  2524    0% 
  79 GullChess 1.1 x64              2779  126  117    37   62%  2673    0% 
  80 Protector 1.3.5 x64            2777  123  115    49   73%  2497    0% 
  81 Komodo 2.03 JA w32             2770  332  225    10   90%  2412    0% 
  82 Hiarcs 12.1 w32                2762   96   95    49   53%  2737    0% 
  83 Critter 0.60 w32               2759  127  120    30   60%  2674    0% 
  84 Thinker 5.4d Inert w32         2755   57   56   174   61%  2631    0% 
  85 Komodo 1.2 JA x64              2741   91   85   112   73%  2445    0% 
  86 Critter 0.52b w32              2738  116  118    34   47%  2761    0% 
  87 Critter 0.70 w32               2735  124  123    31   52%  2724    0% 
  88 Junior 11.1a w32               2725  106  106    40   50%  2723    0% 
  89 Umko 1.2 x64                   2724   93   96    65   42%  2816    0% 
  90 Critter 0.70 x64               2715  127  119    46   72%  2456    0% 
  91 Rybka 3 x64                    2711  135  124    38   74%  2435    0% 
  92 GullChess 1.0a x64             2695  101  100    80   66%  2459    0% 
  93 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32            2694  107  110    39   44%  2745    0% 
  94 Junior 11.1a x64               2685  102   98    58   62%  2557    0% 
  95 Equinox 0.97e w32              2684  145  159    21   38%  2771    0% 
  96 Zappa Mexico II x64            2680   67   67   169   58%  2564    0% 
  97 Doch 1.3.4 JA w32              2679  112  112    37   51%  2668    0% 
  98 Sjeng WC-2008 x64              2672   88   86    81   62%  2538    0% 
  99 Loop 13.6 w32                  2671   94  100    51   37%  2774    0% 
 100 Bright 0.5c w32                2669   99   99    50   52%  2647    0% 
 101 Loop 2007 x64                  2666   81   83   113   54%  2585    0% 
 102 GullChess 1.2 x64              2663  111  119    54   31%  2867    0% 
 103 Fruit 05/11/03 w32             2663   70   71   110   50%  2638    0% 
 104 Sjeng WC-2008 w32              2662   74   75    87   44%  2717    0% 
 105 Cyclone xTreme Wrath w32       2655   95  100    52   38%  2760    0% 
 106 Hiarcs 12.1 w32 Sharpen PV     2655   88   91    62   40%  2735    0% 
 107 Protector 1.3.5 JA w32         2654  127  126    33   48%  2668    0% 
 108 Hannibal 1.0a w32              2650   77   77    95   54%  2606    0% 
 109 Critter 0.60 x64               2650  142  128    42   76%  2359    0% 
 110 Onno 1.2.70 x64                2643   67   66   176   56%  2564    0% 
 111 Komodo 1.0 JA w32              2632   88   92    60   40%  2723    0% 
 112 Shredder 12 x64                2628   81   81    91   57%  2542    0% 
 113 Loop 2007 w32                  2620   91   94    66   47%  2626    0% 
 114 GullChess 1.1 w32              2615  114  114    47   55%  2537    0% 
 115 Komodo 1.3 JA w32              2614  125  128    39   49%  2609    0% 
 116 GullChess 1.2 w32              2608  160  168    20   40%  2712    0% 
 117 Loop M1-T x64                  2601  115  122    52   31%  2831    0% 
 118 Doch 1.2 JA w32                2599   92   98    56   36%  2726    0% 
 119 Hannibal 1.1 x64               2598  107  110    56   38%  2767    0% 
 120 Umko 1.1 x64                   2597   81   86   103   31%  2807    0% 
 121 Onno 1.1.1 x64                 2574  104  106    47   47%  2599    0% 
 122 Komodo 1.2 JA w32              2573  118  125    35   40%  2654    0% 
 123 Fruit 09_07_05 x64             2569   43   44   387   39%  2700    0% 
 124 Onno 1.1.1 w32                 2561  100  112    52   25%  2800    0% 
 125 GullChess 1.0a w32             2552  132  141    29   38%  2669    0% 
 126 Equinox 0.97e x64              2543   95  100    79   29%  2804    0% 
 127 BugChess2 1.9 x64              2538   90   93    97   43%  2611    0% 
 128 Zappa Mexico II w32            2535   60   64   160   29%  2734    0% 
 129 Fruit 09_07_05 w32             2531  127  150    36   19%  2829    0% 
 130 Doch 09.980 JA w32             2509  104  113    46   30%  2692    0% 
 131 Onno 1.2.70 w32                2485   83   87    95   36%  2641    0% 
 132 Crafty 23.4 JA x64             2478   68   73   187   27%  2761    0% 
 133 Spike 1.2 Turin w32            2472   89   98    72   24%  2743    0% 
 134 Umko 1.1 w32                   2471  119  126    49   37%  2604    0% 
 135 Umko 1.0 x64, no ponder        2469  111  123    47   26%  2727    0% 
 136 Twisted Logic 20100131x w32    2465   74   80   106   23%  2743    0% 
 137 Hannibal 1.1 w32               2458  144  166    27   22%  2721    0% 
 138 Twisted Logic 20100131x x64    2455  100  104    61   41%  2553    0% 
 139 SmarThink 1.20 x64             2451   66   68   179   30%  2701    0% 
 140 Jonny 4.00 w32                 2449   57   60   228   27%  2714    0% 
 141 SmarThink 1.20 w32             2429   65   71   155   23%  2720    0% 
 142 Equinox 0.95 w32               2419  103  114    65   28%  2652    0% 
 143 Crafty 23.4 JA w32             2404   84   91    97   25%  2689    0% 
 144 Umko 1.2 w32                   2401  181  235    16   19%  2685    0% 
 145 Tornado 4.40 w32               2398   90  102    91   19%  2734    0% 
 146 BugChess2 1.9 w32              2388  191  254    19   11%  2800    0% 
 147 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2372   65   71   201   16%  2783    0% 
 148 Booot 5.1.0 w32                2372  107  128    72   13%  2833    0% 
 149 Tornado 4.25 x64               2370   94  102    90   24%  2680    0% 
 150 BugChess2 1.7 x64              2369  104  121    76   14%  2801    0% 
 151 Equinox 0.95 x64               2366  110  125    83   13%  2877    0% 
 152 Cipollino 3.25 x64             2340  103  118    69   17%  2716    0% 
 153 Crafty 23.3 JA x64             2328   96  112    95   13%  2781    0% 
 154 Tornado 4.40 x64               2327  108  124   100   11%  2891    0% 
 155 Ktulu 9.03 w32                 2306   87  103   114   11%  2753    0% 
 156 Chronos 1.99 x64, no ponder    2296   99  117    89   13%  2739    0% 
 157 Equinox 0.87t x64              2271  104  116   116   14%  2805    0% 
 158 Equinox 0.83 x64               2271  116  144    68   10%  2750    0% 
 159 Tornado 3.67 x64               2262  121  144    70   11%  2771    0% 
 160 Crafty 23.3 JA w32             2260  105  130    87    9%  2749    0% 
 161 Crafty 23.2 JA x64             2241   98  117   101   11%  2715    0% 
 162 BobCat 2.75 x64                2227  111  144    94    6%  2856    0% 
 163 Crafty 23.3 JA x64, no ponder  2209  117  155    94    5%  2799    0% 
 164 Equinox 0.83 w32               2205  132  177    57    7%  2721    0% 
 165 Scorpio 2.7 JA w32             2201  136  196    66    2%  2818    0% 
 166 Scorpio 2.7 JA x64             2175   91  113   282    3%  2946    0% 
 167 Daydreamer 1.75 JA x64         2117   97  119   158    6%  2728    0% 
 168 Scorpio 2.6 JA x64             2087   93  115   251    3%  2801    0% 
 169 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2035   67   79   478    4%  2729    0% 
 170 Gaviota 0.80 x64               1904  119  167   271    1%  2749    0%