Houdini 2 = trojan ?

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Sylwy
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Re: You are right Robert !

Post by Sylwy »

Houdini wrote:................there are no guarantees... who knows what hackers add into the code.

Robert

Jawohl Robert !

You are right ! They are a new trojan monster named "Chesst.. F...." ( if I remember in a correct way ) ! :lol: A lot of (West add in ) need the cake with trojans !
You can't even imagine what hackers/crackers /sh_t makers are able to do in a honourable computer !
STASI knows ! :lol:

Yours,
SilvianR

For example this is a cake with a trojan female. Take a look to the young and polite man status ! :shock:

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Re: Houdini 2 = trojan ?

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Houdini wrote:
perejaslav wrote:Sorry but your excuse is poor :evil:
Yes, I obtained it from the official site and use a real key for a Houdini though I didn't purchase it (it's not a „keygened“ key, it's a gift from a friend of mine). I like „try before you buy“ system ( but you decline it for H2.0 ) and now I must claim I will never buy a software from a man like you! Stop lying and tell all the truth to us! Why did you implement a hidden trojan into the Setup??? :twisted:

Shame on you, Mr. Houdart!
For your info:
- The "try before buy" system for Houdini is the freely downloadable Houdini 1.5a.
- Houdini licenses are not transferable from one person to another.

Let me also copy you the definition of a Trojan from Wikipedia:
A Trojan horse, or Trojan, is a destructive program that masquerades as an application. The software initially appears to perform a desirable function for the user prior to installation and/or execution, but (perhaps in addition to the expected function) steals information or harms the system.[1] Unlike viruses or worms, Trojan horses do not replicate themselves, but they can be just as destructive.
Houdini does not contain a Trojan, it doesn't steal any information nor harm the system.
It appears that by your definition any software relying on license activation would be a Trojan...

Robert



Robert, don't waste good time with him. He is just looking to stir something up. If he had not picked this nonsense, it would have been something else. Your first reply to him I would imagine was dead on accurate. He knows just how the system works, and he had balls or lack of good sense, but he wasn't expecting you that quick.

Also, my virus protection lets me scan any file, exe, etc. that I want to- to be safe, as many do. I check everything that comes in usually, but I did not even bother checking yours, because you are too good and thorough. There was no point.

Got busy after you and I talked, but i did get to run 12 games @ 5 min.+3sec. between Houdini 2 v DeepSaros 23j, which is for all practical purposes 92% Ippolit

Intel, 1 cpu
32-bit
128mb hash
both Perfect 12 bk
learn and ponder off

Houdini 2- 6wins

DeepSaros- 2 wins

Drawn Games- 4


I can't imagine anything meaning less than 12/5min. blitz games, but you were here so I thought it would be nice to tell you most important- no crashes or problems in Fritz 11 gui- very stable program.

Keep in touch Robert. You are an extremely valuable friend. (It won't be 15 min. before some idiot will come along explaining to me that 12 games mean nothing. Like I woke up from a 30 year coma yesterday.)

You have my address. Any preference in head-up matches for Houdini 2- feel free to contact me. Just a liitle slow going like I told you until I get the other 2 fixed.


Take Care,

George Speight
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Re: Houdini 2 = trojan ?

Post by Carlos Ylich »

Houdini wrote:
perejaslav wrote:Why Houdini 2.0 - after being installed - tries to send some unknown info to the cruxis.com? :twisted:

Why I can not read about this strange behavior in the Houdini FAQ (http://www.cruxis.com/chess/manual/index.html)? :twisted:

What is this like not a trojan horse? :twisted:
Houdini doesn't contain any virus nor horse nor worm. On all computers that are in the Houdini development chain Microsoft Security Essentials is running permanently.

Of course, if you obtained your Houdini copy from a different source than the official Houdini download address (and maybe you did, as I cannot find your name in the Houdini user's list), there are no guarantees... who knows what hackers add into the code.

Robert
Hello Robert,
You thought that when you copied the ideas of those who you say are
crackers?
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Re: Houdini 2 = trojan ?

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Houdini wrote:....
For your info:
- The "try before buy" system for Houdini is the freely downloadable Houdini 1.5a.
- Houdini licenses are not transferable from one person to another.

Let me also copy you the definition of a Trojan from Wikipedia:
A Trojan horse, or Trojan, is a destructive program that masquerades as an application. The software initially appears to perform a desirable function for the user prior to installation and/or execution, but (perhaps in addition to the expected function) steals information or harms the system.[1] Unlike viruses or worms, Trojan horses do not replicate themselves, but they can be just as destructive.
Houdini does not contain a Trojan, it doesn't steal any information nor harm the system.
It appears that by your definition any software relying on license activation would be a Trojan...

Robert
Mr Houdart,
does your chess engine executable phone home?
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Re: Houdini 2 = trojan ?

Post by Michel »

Mr Houdart,
does your chess engine executable phone home?
From the comments here I gather that the engine phones home during the
registration process.
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Re: Houdini 2 = trojan ?

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Michel wrote:
Mr Houdart,
does your chess engine executable phone home?
From the comments here I gather that the engine phones home during the
registration process.
The OP used the phrase "after being installed." Not certain what that means.
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Re: Houdini 2

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Let me give a final, general answer (not specifically intended as a reply to the previous message).

For obvious reasons the anti-piracy measures included in Houdini are not something I wish to discuss on a public forum.

If you are a registered Houdini 2 user, you can send an e-mail with the question to the Houdini support address and I will give you some more details.

If you are a Houdini 2 user with a "gifted" license, I'm afraid I'm not interested in giving you any further explanations.

Other than that, let me repeat the fact that the official download of Houdini does not contain any malware that steals information or harms your system.

Robert
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Re: Houdini 2

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Houdini wrote:Let me give a final, general answer (not specifically intended as a reply to the previous message).

For obvious reasons the anti-piracy measures included in Houdini are not something I wish to discuss on a public forum.

If you are a registered Houdini 2 user, you can send an e-mail with the question to the Houdini support address and I will give you some more details.

If you are a Houdini 2 user with a "gifted" license, I'm afraid I'm not interested in giving you any further explanations.

Other than that, let me repeat the fact that the official download of Houdini does not contain any malware that steals information or harms your system.

Robert
I'm not a Houdini user, but this policy seems reasonable to me.
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Re: Houdini 2

Post by Matthias Gemuh »

Houdini wrote:Let me give a final, general answer (not specifically intended as a reply to the previous message).

For obvious reasons the anti-piracy measures included in Houdini are not something I wish to discuss on a public forum.

If you are a registered Houdini 2 user, you can send an e-mail with the question to the Houdini support address and I will give you some more details.

If you are a Houdini 2 user with a "gifted" license, I'm afraid I'm not interested in giving you any further explanations.

Other than that, let me repeat the fact that the official download of Houdini does not contain any malware that steals information or harms your system.

Robert
Why this type of answer ?

Let potential buyers know that:
the installer phones home if internet is accessible.
After installation, the UCI engines themselves don't phone home.

Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Re: Houdini 2

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The installer sends an https POST transaction containing the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\RegisteredOwner and RegisteredOrganization keys, as well as the IP address of the computer running it.

Is that all, Mr. Houdart? Or your program does more some stealing things? :twisted: