WCCC 2011 - Junior vs Shredder

[Bram Visser]

thank you but this wccc 2011 is currently running?

Yes, only 1 round to go. Check here:
http://www.digitalgametechnology.com/Ch ... index.html

[Milos]

[d]5r2/8/p2Rpk2/5p2/8/2P4P/PP4P1/6K1 b - - 0 4

Queens are gone, and here is some analysis from Houdini 1.5a:

24 +1.15 88.8M 0:17.06 a5 c4 a4 Kf2 Ke7 Rb6 Rd8 Ke2 e5 Rb5 Ke6 Rb4 Ra8 Rb6+ Ke7 g3 Rc8 Rb4 a3 bxa3 Ra8 a4 Kd6 h4 Kc5 a3 Rg8

You seam to be using (by your own definition) pirated software for the analysis.
Here is little wiki definition for you.

[Peter Skinner]

[d]5r2/8/p2Rpk2/5p2/8/2P4P/PP4P1/6K1 b - - 0 4

Queens are gone, and here is some analysis from Houdini 1.5a:

24 +1.15 88.8M 0:17.06 a5 c4 a4 Kf2 Ke7 Rb6 Rd8 Ke2 e5 Rb5 Ke6 Rb4 Ra8 Rb6+ Ke7 g3 Rc8 Rb4 a3 bxa3 Ra8 a4 Kd6 h4 Kc5 a3 Rg8

You seam to be using (by your own definition) pirated software for the analysis.
Here is little wiki definition for you.

Robert Houdart has stated Houdini contains zero copyrighted code. Do you have evidence to refute that?

He is selling a commercial product that is being pirated like wildfire. Until proven that he is a clone, does he not deserve the very same protections as other commercial authors have and have received in the past?

I still remove pirated links to Rybka 4. No one has proven that it contains any copyrighted code.

Notice I am using the free version and I have not paid Houdini anything. Nor did I ever purchase Rybka. Vasik sent me every single version I asked for as I test with it.

If Robert would like to send me a free license to use for my testing with Crafty, then he is welcome to. I would appreciate it. Being that I am the only Crafty Team member that uses Windows on a daily basis (Maybe Mike Byrne does as well), I am really the only one that can test against Houdini.

Peter

[Milos]

Robert Houdart has stated Houdini contains zero copyrighted code. Do you have evidence to refute that?

He is selling a commercial product that is being pirated like wildfire. Until proven that he is a clone, does he not deserve the very same protections as other commercial authors have and have received in the past?

I still remove pirated links to Rybka 4. No one has proven that it contains any copyrighted code.

I didn't realize you are actually protecting Houdart's work. In that case I'm apologizing.

[Peter Skinner]

Robert Houdart has stated Houdini contains zero copyrighted code. Do you have evidence to refute that?

He is selling a commercial product that is being pirated like wildfire. Until proven that he is a clone, does he not deserve the very same protections as other commercial authors have and have received in the past?

I still remove pirated links to Rybka 4. No one has proven that it contains any copyrighted code.

I didn't realize you are actually protecting Houdart's work. In that case I'm apologizing.

When I "scrape" file sharing sites I am removing links to pirated software. There are various ways that files are detected for removal, but I won't go into that here. Obviously asking for the md5 signatures is one method of detection.

The old method of looking up file names was useless as something could be renamed to anything else. Now there are much more advanced methods of doing look ups, where the file name itself is meaningless. Even a file that is hex edited can be found, or one that is zipped, rared, re-zipped, and tared.

Peter

[Milos]

The old method of looking up file names was useless as something could be renamed to anything else. Now there are much more advanced methods of doing look ups, where the file name itself is meaningless. Even a file that is hex edited can be found, or one that is zipped, rared, re-zipped, and tared.

However, most of the pirates use password protected archives which means a lot of digging through cracking sites until you find the actual password the works. Quite a cumbersome work imo.

[Peter Skinner]

The old method of looking up file names was useless as something could be renamed to anything else. Now there are much more advanced methods of doing look ups, where the file name itself is meaningless. Even a file that is hex edited can be found, or one that is zipped, rared, re-zipped, and tared.

However, most of the pirates use password protected archives which means a lot of digging through cracking sites until you find the actual password the works. Quite a cumbersome work imo.

There are ways around even that. I remove hundreds of links to pirated chess materials weekly with password protected files. They really just make it harder for their user base to open. Not me

And almost zero leg work :p

Peter

[kranium]

Robert Houdart has stated Houdini contains zero copyrighted code. Do you have evidence to refute that?
Peter

please see:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1647
to start with

the evidience...disassembly and comparisons (beginning 2nd page) compare Houdini to the last two chesslogik.com Robbolito for Windows development releases:
Robbolito 0.085g3 and Robbolito 0.09

both released under GPL license (by Milos and I, ~ Dec. 31, 2009)

[MikeGL]

[d]3r4/8/R3pk2/p4p2/8/2P4P/PP4P1/6K1 w - - 2 41

Is 41.b4 really better than 41.Rxa5 which wins another pawn?
Are there other engines which will consider the weaker 41.b4 like Junior?

There are many R endings with 2 pawns up that are book draw and this game is probably one of them. Hence taking another pawn with 41.Rxa5 I think ensures the win for Junior, but I don't have a powerful hardware to backup my claim.

[geots]

thank you but this wccc 2011 is currently running?

Yes, only 1 round to go. Check here:
http://www.digitalgametechnology.com/Ch ... index.html

I see Group 1. Is there Group 2? ...... Strange no Houdini, Critter, Stockfish.

In standings after round 8, were any of the top 3 NOT on the panel judging Rybka.............................


gts