Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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IWB
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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Laskos wrote:[
I am somehow surprised by the 2979 Bayeselo result. Could someone use EloStat to compare?

Kai
I am not, as this discussion comes up with every second engine I test.
The current Elostat result is on the individual.7z download included and it shows the the same. If you want to see by yourself there is a result.pgn with the result of the games. You can do your own math with it ...

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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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I see no rating for Komodo4 now.
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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Uri Blass wrote:I see no rating for Komodo4 now.
Click on "Rating List" and/or hit "F5" to refresh your browser. It is there.

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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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IWB wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I see no rating for Komodo4 now.
Click on "Rating List" and/or hit "F5" to refresh your browser. It is there.

Bye
Ingo
Hello Ingo, your page about Critter appears blank even i refresh...

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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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I see it but it seems strange for me difference that is so high from the average performance of komodo4

I do not believe that the engine that beat houdini2.0 and every different engine in a direct match is 40 elo weaker than houdini2.0 considering the fact that I remember that it got many results with performance above 3000.

I expected it to get elo near 3000 based on the results or maybe the performance based on a single match are clearly lower than what is written.

I wonder what is going to be the rating of a hypotetical engine that get a performance of 3000 against every engine.
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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Uri Blass wrote:I see it but it seems strange for me difference that is so high from the average performance of komodo4

I do not believe that the engine that beat houdini2.0 and every different engine in a direct match is 40 elo weaker than houdini2.0 considering the fact that I remember that it got many results with performance above 3000.

I expected it to get elo near 3000 based on the results or maybe the performance based on a single match are clearly lower than what is written.

I wonder what is going to be the rating of a hypotetical engine that get a performance of 3000 against every engine.

Hi, i'm not an expert but i think Komodo lost many points against weaker opponent.

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MM
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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MM wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I see it but it seems strange for me difference that is so high from the average performance of komodo4

I do not believe that the engine that beat houdini2.0 and every different engine in a direct match is 40 elo weaker than houdini2.0 considering the fact that I remember that it got many results with performance above 3000.

I expected it to get elo near 3000 based on the results or maybe the performance based on a single match are clearly lower than what is written.

I wonder what is going to be the rating of a hypotetical engine that get a performance of 3000 against every engine.

Hi, i'm not an expert but i think Komodo lost many points against weaker opponent.

Regards
I remember that I saw that the performance of the 3100 and performance above 3000 was against the weakest opponents so it cannot be the case.

If I remember correctly
komodo has the worst performances against engines in the middle of the table(IPON rating of 2750-2900 and not IPON rating of 2600-2750)
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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Uri Blass wrote:
MM wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I see it but it seems strange for me difference that is so high from the average performance of komodo4

I do not believe that the engine that beat houdini2.0 and every different engine in a direct match is 40 elo weaker than houdini2.0 considering the fact that I remember that it got many results with performance above 3000.

I expected it to get elo near 3000 based on the results or maybe the performance based on a single match are clearly lower than what is written.

I wonder what is going to be the rating of a hypotetical engine that get a performance of 3000 against every engine.

Hi, i'm not an expert but i think Komodo lost many points against weaker opponent.

Regards
I remember that I saw that the performance of the 3100 and performance above 3000 was against the weakest opponents so it cannot be the case.

If I remember correctly
komodo has the worst performances against engines in the middle of the table(IPON rating of 2750-2900 and not IPON rating of 2600-2750)
In fact i said ''against weaker opponent(s)'', not ''the weak-est opponents''
I just missed a ''s''.

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MM
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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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Uri Blass wrote:I see it but it seems strange for me difference that is so high from the average performance of komodo4

I do not believe that the engine that beat houdini2.0 and every different engine in a direct match is 40 elo weaker than houdini2.0 considering the fact that I remember that it got many results with performance above 3000.

I expected it to get elo near 3000 based on the results or maybe the performance based on a single match are clearly lower than what is written.

I wonder what is going to be the rating of a hypotetical engine that get a performance of 3000 against every engine.
It was exactly the same with Houdini 2.0.
All the individual match performances were averaging about 3045, yet the final rating was 3020.
Apparently engines are penalized for being near or at the top of the pack :-).

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Re: Komodo 4 running for the IPON

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IWB wrote:
Laskos wrote:[
I am somehow surprised by the 2979 Bayeselo result. Could someone use EloStat to compare?

Kai
I am not, as this discussion comes up with every second engine I test.
The current Elostat result is on the individual.7z download included and it shows the the same. If you want to see by yourself there is a result.pgn with the result of the games. You can do your own math with it ...

Bye
Ingo
Ok, I know EloStat algorithms, and once checked them, therefore must be correct.

Kai