Weak Mode Playing Styles

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Re: Weak Mode Playing Styles

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carldaman wrote:
mhull wrote:I remember the days when the Novag Super Expert was among the top chess programs for humans to play. The Novag was known for its good playing style. Subsequent Kittinger programs, while stronger, were not considered to have a good playing style. So for players in that range of strength and below, those old Novags are much sought after.

Question: Are there modern chess programs that can play down (weaker) to the level of the Super Expert, but also with a "good" or otherwise desirable playing style?
I haven't tried it with Houdini 3 yet, but Houdini 2 has a very credible 2100-2300 rated (or somewhat lower) reduced strength level. It would likely satisfy your two criteria.

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CL
Very good information. Thank you. And thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions.
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Re: Weak Mode Playing Styles

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carldaman wrote:
mhull wrote:I remember the days when the Novag Super Expert was among the top chess programs for humans to play. The Novag was known for its good playing style. Subsequent Kittinger programs, while stronger, were not considered to have a good playing style. So for players in that range of strength and below, those old Novags are much sought after.

Question: Are there modern chess programs that can play down (weaker) to the level of the Super Expert, but also with a "good" or otherwise desirable playing style?
I haven't tried it with Houdini 3 yet, but Houdini 2 has a very credible 2100-2300 rated (or somewhat lower) reduced strength level. It would likely satisfy your two criteria.

Regards,
CL
How is it set? In the UCI options?
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Re: Weak mode playing styles.

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Hello Albert:
Albert Silver wrote:
carldaman wrote:
mhull wrote:I remember the days when the Novag Super Expert was among the top chess programs for humans to play. The Novag was known for its good playing style. Subsequent Kittinger programs, while stronger, were not considered to have a good playing style. So for players in that range of strength and below, those old Novags are much sought after.

Question: Are there modern chess programs that can play down (weaker) to the level of the Super Expert, but also with a "good" or otherwise desirable playing style?
I haven't tried it with Houdini 3 yet, but Houdini 2 has a very credible 2100-2300 rated (or somewhat lower) reduced strength level. It would likely satisfy your two criteria.

Regards,
CL
How is it set? In the UCI options?
In Arena 2.0.1, you should find the Strength parameter in the configuration window of the engine (shortcut Ctrl + 1 if Houdini is loaded as 'Engine 1') and set a value from 0 to 100. Please take a look to the user's manual at the official site.

Other option is right click on the engine output (at the bottom of the screen by default) and select Limit Playing Strength to Elo..., then write something between 1200 and 3000 (it is also explained in the user's manual).

Summarizing: yes, it should be found at UCI options; however, I do not know any GUIs other than this old version of Arena (2.0.1).

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.