Israel’s Deep Junior still the king at WCCC

[mwyoung]

This is Junior’s eighth world champion title.

I heard Fruit, Rybka, Ippolit, was very busy in this tournament.

My advice to some people here is to read more chessbooks.

So they can see the qualities of Junior in chess.

It is a very special chessprogram and plays really a unique chess for computer.

I appreciate very much that this programm holds the worldchampiontitel in computerchess.

Junior knows more about attackingchess as any other program in the world.

My advice to you is to learn a little more about computer chess. Junior has a ridiculously high speculative factor and while that might be interesting against a human, it is suicide against a strong engine. Sure it might get one nice win out of a hundred, but that has nothing to do with "knowing about attacking chess". You can do that type of reckless "attacking chess" by simply changing the contempt factor of the top chess engines, and I assure you that you will get many more "attacking" wins than Junior gets, but that is hardly the goal of the top chess engine authors. They want to make the strongest possible engine and they assume the best possible defense before they go on attack.

So before you try to educate us all about Junior, we know Junior and have been following since it came on the world scene. It was an impressive engine in its time, but today it is several hundred ELO points behind the top 5 engines, and it probably would not be rated in the top 30 engines let alone be the WCCC.

I agree here. I have had Junior since the 1990's. Good engine, but not of World Championship caliber, unless the better engines don't play.