TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

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Robert Flesher
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Robert Flesher »

Martin Thoresen wrote:Congratulations to Naum, Stockfish, Fire, Shredder and Spike for qualifying for Stage 2 after Stage 1b ended late last night.
Equinox is still the best 6th placed engine so unless the 6th best engine in 1c can score at least 7 points, it will qualify for Stage 2 as well.

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 N Engine           Elo  Pts    SB Na St Fi Sh Sp To Ni Tg Ex Ar Ne Ja

 1 Naum 4.6         3053 9.0 43.25    =  =  1  =  1  1  1  =  1  1  1 
 2 Stockfish 180214 3181 9.0 43.00 =     1  =  =  =  1  1  1  1  1  1 
 3 Fire 3.1         3102 8.0 35.25 =  0     =  1  =  =  1  1  1  1  1 
 4 Shredder 12      2966 6.5 31.25 0  =  =     =  1  =  1  0  1  1  = 
 5 Spike 1.4        2935 6.5 30.75 =  =  0  =     =  1  =  =  1  =  1 
 6 Tornado 5        2809 6.0 26.50 0  =  =  0  =     =  1  =  1  =  1 
 7 Nightmare 7.8    2880 6.0 23.75 0  0  =  =  0  =     1  1  =  1  1 
 8 Toga II 010214   2759 4.5 13.75 0  0  0  0  =  0  0     1  1  1  1 
 9 Exchess 7.18b    2696 4.0 19.50 =  0  0  1  =  =  0  0     0  =  1 
10 Arasan 16.3      2466 3.0 10.00 0  0  0  0  0  0  =  0  1     1  = 
11 Nebula 2         2097 2.5  9.25 0  0  0  0  =  =  0  0  =  0     1 
12 Jazz 799         2371 1.0  4.75 0  0  0  =  0  0  0  0  0  =  0    
All the games can of course be found in the Archive page and downloaded from there:
http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php

Stage 1c:
16 cores, ponder off. Up to 16 GB hash. Time control is 120' + 30".
Single round robin.
Top 5 qualifies for Stage 2 (+6th best placed in 1a, 1b and 1c combined)

http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Full rules can be read on the TCEC website, click "Help" in the top menu then "Rules & Information".

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 N Engine           Elo  Pts   SB Pr Sc Ry Sp Th Oc Al Ko Ch Jo Ju Cr

 1 Protector 1.6b12 2928 0.0 0.00                                    
 2 Scorpio 2.77     2769 0.0 0.00                                    
 3 Rybka 4.1        3131 0.0 0.00                                    
 4 Spark 1          2800 0.0 0.00                                    
 5 The Baron 3.36   2661 0.0 0.00                                   
 6 Octochess 5374   2367 0.0 0.00                                  
 7 Alfil 14.1       2335 0.0 0.00                                    
 8 Komodo 1188      3177 0.0 0.00                                   
 9 Chiron 2         3008 0.0 0.00                                    
10 Jonny 6          2930 0.0 0.00                                   
11 Junior 13.3      2977 0.0 0.00                                    
12 Crafty 23.8      2482 0.0 0.00                                   

In this game Equinox is showing a loss. Although the connected passers look strong why is this game shown as a loss?

[pgn]1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 d5 8. Ne5 O-O 9. O-O Bb7 10. Nc3 Nbd7 11. Rc1 c5 12. Bf4 cxd4 13. Qxd4 Bc5 14. Qd1 Nxe5 15. Bxe5 Rc8 16. cxd5 Nxd5 17. Nxd5 Bxd5 18. Bxd5 Qxd5 19. Qxd5 exd5 20. Bb2 f6 21. Rfd1 Rfd8 22. Kf1 Kf7 23. a3 h6 24. Rc2 Be7 25. Rdc1 Rxc2 26. Rxc2 Bd6 27. e3 h5 28. Ke2 h4 29. b4 Ke7 30. Bd4 Kd7 31. Rc1 Rh8 32. b5 hxg3 33. hxg3 Bb8 34. f4 Bd6 35. a4 Ba3 36. Rd1 Kd6 37. e4 Rh2+ 38. Kf3 dxe4+ 39. Kxe4 Ke6 40. f5+ Ke7 41. a5 bxa5 42. Bxa7 Re2+ 43. Kd5 Bd6 44. Ra1 Re5+ 45. Kc6 Rxf5 46. Bd4 Bxg3 47. b6 Kf7 48. b7 Bb8 49. Bb6 Re5 50. Bc5 Re6+ 51. Kd7 Re2 52. Rxa5 Rb2 53. Kc6 g5 54. Ba7 Bg3 55. Bd4 Rb4 0-1 [/pgn]
Isaac
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Isaac »

Robert Flesher wrote: In this game Equinox is showing a loss. Although the connected passers look strong why is this game shown as a loss?

[pgn]1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 d5 8. Ne5 O-O 9. O-O Bb7 10. Nc3 Nbd7 11. Rc1 c5 12. Bf4 cxd4 13. Qxd4 Bc5 14. Qd1 Nxe5 15. Bxe5 Rc8 16. cxd5 Nxd5 17. Nxd5 Bxd5 18. Bxd5 Qxd5 19. Qxd5 exd5 20. Bb2 f6 21. Rfd1 Rfd8 22. Kf1 Kf7 23. a3 h6 24. Rc2 Be7 25. Rdc1 Rxc2 26. Rxc2 Bd6 27. e3 h5 28. Ke2 h4 29. b4 Ke7 30. Bd4 Kd7 31. Rc1 Rh8 32. b5 hxg3 33. hxg3 Bb8 34. f4 Bd6 35. a4 Ba3 36. Rd1 Kd6 37. e4 Rh2+ 38. Kf3 dxe4+ 39. Kxe4 Ke6 40. f5+ Ke7 41. a5 bxa5 42. Bxa7 Re2+ 43. Kd5 Bd6 44. Ra1 Re5+ 45. Kc6 Rxf5 46. Bd4 Bxg3 47. b6 Kf7 48. b7 Bb8 49. Bb6 Re5 50. Bc5 Re6+ 51. Kd7 Re2 52. Rxa5 Rb2 53. Kc6 g5 54. Ba7 Bg3 55. Bd4 Rb4 0-1 [/pgn]
Indeed, both engines thought it was a draw. The reason Equinox was awarded the loss is "White's connection stalls" according to the TCEC website, which makes me think that Equinox crashed. I'll wait for more informed people to inform you.
Martin Thoresen
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Martin Thoresen »

Equinox crashed twice when running on 16 cores so it was later reduced to 8.
I suggest reading the TCEC news.

https://www.facebook.com/tcec.chess
peritodeifinali
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by peritodeifinali »

two questions:
why plays junior 13.3 e not 13.8?
why don't play deep Fritz 14?
thx
Martin Thoresen
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Martin Thoresen »

peritodeifinali wrote:why plays junior 13.3 e not 13.8?
Junior Yokohama has a SMP bug that Amir could not fix in time. It crashed a lot during the testing.
peritodeifinali wrote: why don't play deep Fritz 14?
It doesn't exist as UCI or xboard engine.
ernest
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by ernest »

Hi Martin,

Also 2 questions:
* Is there somewhere listed the EGTB/EGBB used by the engines (for instance, is Scorpio playing with bitbases and if not, why?)
* As a kibitzer of the chat (not participant), how do you prevent it from scrolling? (I could do it in the previous TCEC...)
TIA and bravo!
Martin Thoresen
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Martin Thoresen »

ernest wrote: * Is there somewhere listed the EGTB/EGBB used by the engines (for instance, is Scorpio playing with bitbases and if not, why?)
Click the rotating gear next to the engine logo for info on that. I suggest reading the Rules & information in the Help menu.
ernest wrote: * As a kibitzer of the chat (not participant), how do you prevent it from scrolling? (I could do it in the previous TCEC...)
I don't think you can do that without logging in. You can contact Chatwing support for more info on this, info@chatwing.com

Best,
Martin
ernest
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by ernest »

Martin Thoresen wrote:Click the rotating gear next to the engine logo for info on that.
Thanks Martin!
So it says Scorpio IS playing with bitbases.
But it doesn't show in the "Tablebase hits" window (GUI problen?) and I remember Dan Shawul asking in the Chat: why is Scorpio playing without bitbases?
Was he wrong?
Martin Thoresen
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Martin Thoresen »

ernest wrote: Thanks Martin!
So it says Scorpio IS playing with bitbases.
But it doesn't show in the "Tablebase hits" window (GUI problen?) and I remember Dan Shawul asking in the Chat: why is Scorpio playing without bitbases?
Was he wrong?
First of all, Scorpio is a winboard/xboard engine and they never show TB hits of any kind. The "TB Hits" is greyed out because of this.

Second of all, clicking the text around the TCEC Web GUI will bring up small tooltips that gives you information. This is also explained if you read the Rules & Information section in Help, as mentioned before.
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - Stage 1c now live

Post by Vinvin »

Hannibal is qualified as best 6th !