Sargon Android

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Bill Forster
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Re: Sargon Android

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mephisto wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:50 pm First I must apologize for the surname mistake....
No worries, Forsters are going to be called Fosters and Bryans are going to be called Brians, nothing we can do about it and not the biggest of problems!
mephisto wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:50 pm You must keep Sargon as original as possible. That is what makes it so original and enjoyable to play against. If you want to make it stronger then just convert Sargon II.
I would note that converting Sargon II (or 3 or 4 or 5) in the same way is not an option because source code for those is not available. That's what's special about Sargon 1978. As I noted above it's just a shame it 's the weakest engine the Spracklens ever created.
mephisto
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Re: Sargon Android

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Hi Bill

You said that " It's just a shame it's the weakest engine the Spracklens ever created".

Well we can still play against all of the Spraklen's, Fidelity engines with Franz Huber's excellent CB-Emu program which now includes over 300 chess computer ROMS,

https://c.gmx.net/@317206859884790529/D ... YIcnAxWuFg

Regards from England
Bryan
What's my next move? - to the fridge for another beer !!
Bill Forster
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Re: Sargon Android

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mephisto wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am Hi Bill

You said that " It's just a shame it's the weakest engine the Spracklens ever created".

Well we can still play against all of the Spraklen's, Fidelity engines with Franz Huber's excellent CB-Emu program which now includes over 300 chess computer ROMS,

https://c.gmx.net/@317206859884790529/D ... YIcnAxWuFg

Regards from England
Bryan
Yes I understand all the Sargon versions can be played in various ways, including Sargon 1978 via a Lua translation before my Sargon 1978 project. To a programmer Sargon 1978 has unique interest (amongst the Sargons) in that the source code exists. So Franz Huber's project for example involves emulating the microprocessors, ROM and other hardware from (old) dedicated chess computers. A marvellous project, but the Sargon program in that scenario is a black box that will (hopefully) just reproduce the original behaviour. The Sargon 1978 code makes it possible to look inside the program (it's a white box). So you can use a faster approach to run the code at the full speed of a modern computer (by translating rather than emulating). And you can run the original algorithm to greater depth for example. You can check the program's logic and discern the PV for a GUI etc. etc.