Any 2700 t0 2750 engine would have won with White GM Vidit Vs GM Anish

[Uri Blass]

Here is a link to the relevant game and I do not find the mistake of white a bad blunder by the GM and I guess many human players will do the same mistake.




You can see the explanation that there is a rule that usually if both sides promote the side that promote with check is going to win
(I can add at least not lose because of some perpetual check)

Expecting GM's to find that the position is an exception in time trouble is not fair.
Weak engines have no problem because they are not programmed to be afraid to lose from the fact that the opponent promote with check.
I am sure you can find positions when they blunder because of this reason together with search that is not deep enough.

[AdminX]

Weak engines have no problem because they are not programmed to be afraid to lose ...

Wouldn't that be an interesting idea, if we really wanted engines to play more human like!? Program them to fear. Hell, Fritz (Gui) will already talk sh!t to you while playing a game.

[Chessqueen]

Here is a link to the relevant game and I do not find the mistake of white a bad blunder by the GM and I guess many human players will do the same mistake.




You can see the explanation that there is a rule that usually if both sides promote the side that promote with check is going to win
(I can add at least not lose because of some perpetual check)

Expecting GM's to find that the position is an exception in time trouble is not fair.
Weak engines have no problem because they are not programmed to be afraid to lose from the fact that the opponent promote with check.
I am sure you can find positions when they blunder because of this reason together with search that is not deep enough.

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

[Chessqueen]

[quote="Uri Blass" post_id=897043 time=1624737815 user_id=192]
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Dragontooth-0.2 is rated 1224 ...

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragontooth-0.2-bahamut-WINDOWS-x64-64bit"]
[Black "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3500"]
[Time "17:19:42"]
[WhiteElo "1224"]
[TimeControl "300+2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/1P1P2R1/6p1/4K3/8/7k/5p2/1r6 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "12"]
]

1. Rh7+ {(Rg7-h7+ Kh3-g3 d7-d8Q Rb1-b5+ Ke5-d6 f2-f1B b7-b8N g6-g5 Nb8-a6)
+6.29/9 12} Kg2 {(Kh3-g2 d7-d8Q Rb1-b5+ Ke5-e6 f2-f1Q Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g3
b7-b8Q+ Rb5xb8 Qd2-g5+ Kg3-f3 Rh7-f7+ Kf3-e2 Qg5-g4+ Ke2-e1 Rf7xf1+ Ke1xf1
Qg4-f4+ Kf1-e2 Qf4xb8 Ke2-d3 Ke6-f6 Kd3-c4 Qb8-b7 Kc4-c5 Kf6xg6 Kc5-c4
Qb7-b2 Kc4-d5 Qb2-c1 Kd5-d6) -60.26/34 12} 2. d8=Q {(d7-d8Q Rb1-b5+ Ke5-e4
f2-f1Q Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g3 Qd2-h2+ Kg3-g4 b7-b8Q) +4.38/9 12} Re1+ {(Rb1-e1+
Ke5-f6 f2-f1Q+ Kf6-g7 Re1-b1 Qd8-g5+ Kg2-f3 Qg5-f6+ Kf3-e3 Qf6xf1 Rb1xb7+
Kg7xg6 Rb7xh7 Kg6xh7 Ke3-d4 Qf1-b5 Kd4-c3 Kh7-g8 Kc3-d2 Qb5-c6 Kd2-d1
Kg8-h7 Kd1-e1 Qc6-c1+ Ke1-e2 Kh7-g6 Ke2-d3 Kg6-g7) -60.17/38 4} 3. Kf6
{(Ke5-f6 f2-f1Q+ Kf6-g7 Re1-b1 b7-b8Q Rb1xb8 Qd8xb8 Qf1-f5 Rh7-h2+ Kg2-f3)
+4.75/10 9} f1=Q+ {(f2-f1Q+ Kf6-g7 Qf1-b5 b7-b8Q Re1-e7+ Qd8xe7 Qb5xb8
Qe7-e2+ Kg2-g1 Qe2-e3+ Kg1-g2 Rh7-h3 Qb8-b2+ Kg7-h7 Qb2-b7+ Kh7-h6 Kg2-f1
Rh3-h2 Qb7-g2 Rh2xg2 Kf1xg2 Kh6xg6 Kg2-h2 Qe3-f2+ Kh2-h1 Qf2-e2 Kh1-g1
Kg6-g5 Kg1-h1 Kg5-f4 Kh1-g1 Kf4-f3 Kg1-h1 Qe2-g2+) -M17/36 7} 4. Kg7
{(Kf6-g7 Re1-e7+ Qd8xe7 Qf1-a1+ Qe7-f6 Qa1-b1 Qf6xg6+ Qb1xg6+ Kg7xg6)
+7.46/9 8} Qf4 {(Qf1-f4 b7-b8Q Re1-e7+ Qd8xe7 Qf4xb8 Qe7-e2+ Kg2-g1 Qe2-e3+
Kg1-g2 Rh7-h3 Qb8-b2+ Kg7xg6 Qb2-c2+ Kg6-g5 Qc2-f2 Rh3-h2+ Kg2xh2 Qe3xf2+
Kh2-h1 Qf2-d2 Kh1-g1 Kg5-g4 Kg1-h1 Kg4-f3 Kh1-g1 Qd2-g2+) -M13/44 3} 5.
b8=Q {(b7-b8Q Re1-e7+ Qd8xe7 Qf4xb8 Qe7-e4+ Kg2-g3 Kg7xg6) +5.84/8 8} Re7+
{(Re1-e7+ Qd8xe7 Qf4xb8 Qe7-e2+ Kg2-g1 Qe2-e3+ Kg1-g2 Rh7-h3 Qb8-b2+ Kg7xg6
Qb2-c2+ Kg6-g5 Qc2-f2 Rh3-h2+ Kg2xh2 Qe3xf2+ Kh2-h1 Qf2-d2 Kh1-g1 Kg5-g4
Kg1-h1 Kg4-f3 Kh1-g1 Qd2-g2+) -M12/53 3 Black resigns} 6. Qxe7 Qxb8
{(Qf4xb8 Qe7-e2+ Kg2-g1 Qe2-e3+ Kg1-g2 Rh7-h3 Qb8-b2+ Kg7xg6 Qb2-c2+ Kg6-g5
Qc2-f2 Rh3-h2+ Kg2xh2 Qe3xf2+ Kh2-h1 Qf2-d2 Kh1-g1 Kg5-g4 Kg1-h1 Kg4-f3
Kh1-g1 Qd2-g2+) -M11/55 3 Black resigns} *[/pgn]

[Cornfed]

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

If you mean 'World Champion' (of chess...as in Lasker, Capa, etc), the odds are against it. Just as they are against Alireza Firouzja whom half the world seems to want to anoint.

[Chessqueen]

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future World Champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

If you mean 'World Champion' (of chess...as in Lasker, Capa, etc), the odds are against it. Just as they are against Alireza Firouzja whom half the world seems to want to anoint.

From India you have a lot of young talents NOT only GM Gukesh, but also GM Nihal GM Leon and GM Praggnanandhaa, Therefore, in another 5 to 6 years one of those will challenge Carlsen https://chessbase.in/

[Chessqueen]

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future World Champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

If you mean 'World Champion' (of chess...as in Lasker, Capa, etc), the odds are against it. Just as they are against Alireza Firouzja whom half the world seems to want to anoint.

From India you have a lot of young talents NOT only GM Gukesh, but also GM Nihal GM Leon and GM Praggnanandhaa, Therefore, in another 5 to 6 years one of those will challenge Carlsen

[Chessqueen]

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future World Champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

If you mean 'World Champion' (of chess...as in Lasker, Capa, etc), the odds are against it. Just as they are against Alireza Firouzja whom half the world seems to want to anoint.

From India you have a lot of young talents NOT only GM Gukesh, but also GM Nihal GM Leon and GM Praggnanandhaa, Therefore, in another 5 to 6 years one of those will challenge Carlsen

But the lowest rated 17 years from India qualified, and the big surprise was 17-year-old Indian grandmaster Arjun Erigaisi making it into the knockout.


Rk. SNo Name Rtg Pts. TB1 TB2 TB3 TB4
1 16

GM Aronian Levon 2781 10,5 0,0 6 76,00 5,5
2 15

GM Artemiev Vladislav 2704 10,0 0,0 7 68,00 4,5
3 2

GM Ding Liren 2799 9,5 0,0 5 68,75 4,5
4 11

GM Carlsen Magnus 2847 9,0 0,5 5 60,50 3,0
5 8

GM So Wesley 2770 9,0 0,5 4 65,75 4,5
6 13

GM Duda Jan-Krzysztof 2729 8,0 2,0 5 58,00 4,0
7 12

GM Giri Anish 2780 8,0 2,0 3 61,75 5,0
8 4

GM Erigaisi Arjun 2567 8,0 1,5 3 54,00 3,0

[Chessqueen]

This 15 years old Gukesh D from India is a future World Champion https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames ... R8uldavqW5

If you mean 'World Champion' (of chess...as in Lasker, Capa, etc), the odds are against it. Just as they are against Alireza Firouzja whom half the world seems to want to anoint.

From India you have a lot of young talents NOT only GM Gukesh, but also GM Nihal GM Leon and GM Praggnanandhaa, Therefore, in another 5 to 6 years one of those will challenge Carlsen

Here is the future World Champion vs Carlsen, just give 5 years to this Kid