Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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Who will Win?

Poll ended at Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 pm

Magnus Carlsen
31
74%
Ian Nepomniachtchi
11
26%
 
Total votes: 42

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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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The danger on being the top guy means you can lose perspective on your opponent's strength because you are over confident. You have to stay hungry. Nepo has also played against Carlsen with a good score I believe. He is a dangerous opponent for Magnus.
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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[pgn]
[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.11.26"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C88"]
[WhiteElo "2782"]
[BlackElo "2855"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "89"]
[EventDate "2021.11.25"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. e4 {0} e5 {19} 2. Nf3 {13} Nc6 {5} 3. Bb5 {5} a6 {17} 4. Ba4 {7} Nf6 {5} 5.
O-O {34} Be7 {10} 6. Re1 {9} b5 {6} 7. Bb3 {7 White until here
} O-O {6} 8. h3 {27} Na5 {128} 9. Nxe5 {118} Nxb3 {23} 10. axb3 {10} Bb7 $1 {10
} 11. d3 {18} d5 $1 {14} 12. exd5 {12} Qxd5 {8} 13. Qf3 {7} Bd6 {40 [#]} 14.
Kf1 $1 {23} Rfb8 {65} 15. Qxd5 {462} Nxd5 {18} 16. Bd2 {281} c5 {37} 17. Nf3 {
965} Rd8 {1255} 18. Nc3 {722} Nb4 {49} 19. Rec1 {87} Rac8 {317} 20. Ne2 {80}
Nc6 {551} 21. Be3 {168} Ne7 {534} 22. Bf4 {975} Bxf3 {50} 23. gxf3 {60} Bxf4 {3
} 24. Nxf4 {7} Rc6 {124} 25. Re1 {115} Nf5 {104} 26. c3 {19} Nh4 {759} 27. Re3
{131} Kf8 {740} 28. Ng2 {195} Nf5 {360} 29. Re5 {12} g6 {1} 30. Ne1 {45} Ng7 {
165} 31. Re4 {519} f5 {173} 32. Re3 {27} Ne6 {15} 33. Ng2 {84} b4 {158} 34. Ke2
{699} Rb8 {17} 35. Kd2 {129} bxc3+ {90} 36. bxc3 {31} Rxb3 {4} 37. Kc2 {16} Rb7
{211} 38. h4 {51} Kf7 {179} 39. Ree1 {35} Kf6 {237} 40. Ne3 {0} Rd7 {0} 41. Nc4
{652} Re7 {519} 42. Ne5 {154} Rd6 {42} 43. Nc4 $11 {5} Rc6 {6} 44. Ne5 {31} Rd6
{4} 45. Nc4 {4} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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I fed the game to Zahak 9.0 For analysis (ChessX has auto-analysis which is awesome):
Conditions: 4 Threads, 10GB Hash, Syzygy 6-men
2 Minutes per move for analysis (usually that is up to depth 35-40):
And here is the resulting analysis, engine's alternative lines are in between brackets:

[pgn]
[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021-11-26"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. h3
Na5 9. Nxe5 Nxb3 10. axb3 Bb7 11. d3 ( 11. Nc3 b4 12. Ne2 Nxe4 13. d3 Nd6 14.
Ng3 f5 15. Bf4 a5 16. Qe2 Bh4 17. c4 Bxg3 18. fxg3 Nf7 19. Nf3 Bxf3 20. Qxf3 c6
21. Be3 Ng5 22. Bxg5 Qxg5 23. Re5 h6 24. d4 Qd2 25. Qf2 Qd3 26. Raxa5 Rxa5 27.
Rxa5 Qxb3 { 0.59} )11... d5 12. exd5 Qxd5 13. Qf3 Bd6 14. Kf1 Rfb8 15. Qxd5
Nxd5 16. Bd2 c5 17. Nf3 ( 17. Nc3 Nb4 18. Rac1 f6 19. Nf3 Rd8 20. Re2 Bxf3 21.
gxf3 f5 22. Bg5 Re8 23. Rxe8+ Rxe8 24. Be3 Kf7 25. Ne2 Rd8 26. Bg5 Rd7 27. Bd2
a5 28. d4 g6 29. Nc3 Rb7 30. Be3 cxd4 31. Bxd4 Bf4 32. Be3 Be5 33. f4 Bf6 34.
Ke2 Ke6 35. Ra1 Nxc2 36. Rxa5 { 0.48} )17... Rd8 ( 17... Nb4 18. Rc1 Rd8 19.
Nc3 h6 20. Ne4 Be7 21. Ng3 a5 22. Nf5 Bf8 23. Ne3 Bd6 24. Ke2 Nc6 25. Re1 Bf8
26. Kf1 Nb4 27. Bc3 h5 28. Ke2 Re8 29. Kd1 Ra7 30. Kd2 Bxf3 31. gxf3 Nc6 32.
Nd5 Rxe1 33. Rxe1 Nd4 { 0.36} )18. Nc3 ( 18. c4 Nf4 19. Bxf4 Bxf4 20. Nc3 Rab8
21. Ne4 Rbc8 22. Rad1 g6 23. Re2 Bh6 24. Ne1 Bf8 25. Ra1 Rc6 26. Ra5 Rb6 27. g3
Kg7 28. Nc3 Bc6 29. h4 Rd4 30. Ra1 h5 31. Ne4 Bb7 32. f3 Kh6 33. Kg2 Bxe4 34.
fxe4 Bg7 35. cxb5 Rxb5 36. Rxa6 Rxb3 { 0.47} )18... Nb4 19. Rec1 ( 19. Rac1
Bf8 20. Re2 f6 21. Ne1 h5 22. Be3 Kf7 23. Ne4 Rac8 24. f3 Nd5 25. Bd2 h4 26.
Kf2 Nb4 27. Ra1 Nc6 28. Be3 Nb4 29. Rd2 Nd5 30. c3 Nxe3 31. Kxe3 Re8 32. Kf4
Rb8 33. g4 hxg3 34. Kxg3 g5 35. Ng2 { 0.52} )19... Rac8 20. Ne2 ( 20. Na2 Nc6
21. Nc3 Be7 22. Bg5 f6 23. Bd2 Kf7 24. Ne2 h5 25. Be3 g5 26. h4 g4 27. Ne1 Bd6
28. g3 Nb4 29. c3 Nd5 30. Ng2 Ra8 31. Bf4 Bf8 32. d4 a5 33. Bd2 a4 34. bxa4
bxa4 35. Ne3 Nxe3+ 36. Bxe3 { 0.43} )20... Nc6 ( 20... Be7 21. Bxb4 cxb4 22.
d4 Bf6 23. c4 bxc4 24. Rxc4 Rb8 25. Ra4 g6 26. Rcxb4 Be7 27. Rc4 Bxf3 28. gxf3
Rxb3 29. Rxa6 Rxf3 30. Kg2 Rb3 31. Rc2 Kg7 32. Rac6 Rb5 33. R6c3 Bd6 34. b3 h5
35. Kf3 Rf5+ 36. Kg2 h4 { 0.48} )21. Be3 Ne7 22. Bf4 ( 22. Nc3 f5 23. Ne2 Ng6
24. Bd2 Ne5 25. Nh4 g6 26. Bf4 Kf7 27. Re1 Kf6 28. Bg3 Rd7 29. f4 Nc6 30. Nf3
Re8 31. c3 Nd8 32. Bh4+ Kf7 33. Bxd8 Rdxd8 34. Kf2 Bc7 35. Red1 Kg8 36. g3 a5
37. d4 Bb6 38. Ne5 Re7 39. Re1 { 0.72} )22... Bxf3 ( 22... Bxf4 23. Nxf4 Bxf3
24. gxf3 Rc6 25. Ra5 Kf8 26. Rca1 Rdd6 27. Ng2 Nf5 28. Ne3 Nd4 29. f4 g6 30.
Rd1 h5 31. Kg2 Rb6 32. Ra3 Re6 33. Kf1 Kg7 34. Ra5 Rbd6 35. f5 gxf5 36. c3 f4
37. cxd4 fxe3 38. fxe3 cxd4 39. e4 Rg6 40. Rc1 { 0.02} )23. gxf3 Bxf4 24. Nxf4
Rc6 25. Re1 ( 25. Ra5 Kf8 26. Rca1 Rdd6 27. Re1 Nf5 28. c3 Nh4 29. Re3 g6 30.
Ra1 Rd8 31. Ke2 Rcd6 32. Re5 Rf6 33. Nd5 Rfd6 34. Nf4 { 0.00} )25... Nf5 26.
c3 Nh4 27. Re3 Kf8 ( 27... g6 28. Ke2 h6 29. Rd1 g5 30. Nh5 Kh7 31. Rg1 Kg6 32.
Nf4+ Kh7 33. Ng2 Ng6 34. Rh1 Rf6 35. h4 gxh4 36. f4 Rf5 37. Kf3 Rf6 38. Kg4 Rg8
39. Kf3 Rd8 { 0.00} )28. Ng2 Nf5 29. Re5 g6 30. Ne1 ( 30. Ke2 Ng7 31. h4 Ne6
32. f4 f6 33. Re4 Ng7 34. Rg1 Kf7 35. Rd1 Nh5 36. Kd2 Rcd6 37. Kc2 R6d7 38. Rd2
Ng7 39. Re1 Ra7 40. Rde2 a5 41. Ra1 h5 42. Ne3 Rd6 43. Ree1 Rd8 44. Rg1 Rd6 45.
Kd2 Rd8 46. Ke2 Ne6 { 0.50} )30... Ng7 31. Re4 ( 31. Ke2 Ne6 32. h4 Rcd6 33.
Ke3 f6 34. Re4 g5 35. Ke2 Nf4+ 36. Kf1 h6 37. b4 cxb4 38. Rxb4 Kg7 39. Re4 f5
40. Rb4 Ng6 41. hxg5 hxg5 42. c4 bxc4 43. dxc4 Nf4 44. c5 Rh6 45. Rb7+ Kf8 46.
Kg1 Nh3+ 47. Kg2 Nf4+ 48. Kg1 { 0.00} )31... f5 32. Re3 ( 32. Re2 Nh5 33. Rd2
Nf4 34. h4 Rcd6 35. Rad1 Kg7 36. d4 cxd4 37. cxd4 Kf6 38. Ng2 Nd5 39. Rc1 Nb4
40. Rcd1 Nd5 { 0.00} )32... Ne6 33. Ng2 ( 33. h4 Kf7 34. Ng2 b4 35. Ra4 Rb8
36. Re2 bxc3 37. bxc3 Rxb3 38. Rc2 Nc7 39. Nf4 Nb5 40. Ne2 Rd6 41. Kg2 Kg7 42.
c4 Nd4 43. Nxd4 Rxd4 44. Rxa6 Rdxd3 45. Rc6 Rxf3 46. Rxc5 Rf4 47. Rc7+ Kh6 48.
h5 Rg4+ 49. Kf1 Rb1+ 50. Ke2 g5 51. c5 Re4+ 52. Kd3 Rb3+ 53. Kd2 Kxh5 54. Rxh7+
Kg6 55. Rd7 { -0.15} )33... b4 34. Ke2 ( 34. h4 Kf7 35. Ra4 Rb8 36. Re2 bxc3
37. bxc3 Rxb3 38. Rc2 Rb1+ 39. Ke2 Rcb6 40. Rca2 Nc7 41. Ne3 Rh1 42. Kd2 Re6
43. Rc4 Rh2 44. Nd1 Rc6 45. Ke2 Ne6 46. Ne3 Rb6 47. Rca4 a5 48. Nd5 Rd6 49. Ne3
h6 50. Rb2 f4 51. Nc4 { -0.18} )34... Rb8 35. Kd2 bxc3+ 36. bxc3 Rxb3 37. Kc2
Rb7 38. h4 Kf7 ( 38... Rcb6 39. Kc1 Kf7 40. Re2 Rd6 41. Kc2 Kg7 42. h5 Rdb6 43.
hxg6 hxg6 44. Kc1 Rd7 45. Kc2 Rd8 46. Ra4 Rdb8 47. f4 Rb1 48. Ra2 Kf6 49. Re1
Rxe1 50. Nxe1 Nxf4 51. Rxa6+ Kg7 52. Ra7+ Kh6 53. Rc7 Nh3 54. Rxc5 Nxf2 55. c4
Nh3 { -0.30} )39. Ree1 Kf6 ( 39... Rcb6 40. Ra2 a5 41. Ne3 a4 42. Rea1 Nf4 43.
Nc4 Re6 44. Ne3 Nh3 45. Rxa4 Nxf2 46. Ra7 Rxa7 47. Rxa7+ Re7 48. Rxe7+ Kxe7 49.
Nd5+ Ke6 50. Nf4+ Ke5 51. Ne2 h6 52. f4+ Kd5 53. c4+ Kd6 54. Ng3 h5 55. Ne2 Ng4
56. Kd2 Nh2 57. Ke3 Ng4+ 58. Kd2 { 0.00} )40. Ne3 ( 40. Ra2 Kg7 41. Ne3 Nf4
42. Nc4 Rf6 43. Ra5 Ng2 44. Re8 Nxh4 45. Rxc5 Nxf3 46. d4 h5 47. Rcc8 h4 48.
Rh8 g5 49. Rcg8+ Kf7 50. Ne3 g4 51. Nd5 Rd6 52. Rf8+ Kg6 53. Rhg8+ Kh7 54. Ne3
Rb5 55. Rh8+ Kg6 56. Rhg8+ Kh7 { 0.00} )40... Rd7 ( 40... Nf4 41. Nc4 Re7 42.
Rxe7 Kxe7 43. Ra5 Kf6 44. Ra4 g5 45. Na5 Re6 46. Nb7 c4 47. Rxc4 Kg6 48. Nd8
Re2+ 49. Kb3 Nxd3 50. Rc6+ Kh5 51. Nf7 Re6 52. Rxe6 Nc5+ 53. Kb4 Nxe6 54. Nxg5
Nxg5 55. hxg5 Kxg5 56. c4 h5 57. c5 h4 58. c6 h3 59. c7 h2 60. c8=Q h1=Q {
-0.16} )41. Nc4 ( 41. Ra4 a5 42. Rxa5 Nf4 43. Rd1 Kg7 44. Ra4 Nh3 45. d4 cxd4
46. Rdxd4 Rxd4 47. Rxd4 Nxf2 48. Kd2 Nh3 49. Nd5 Rc5 50. c4 g5 51. Nb4 Rc7 52.
Nd3 h5 53. hxg5 Nxg5 54. Ke3 Re7+ 55. Kf2 Ne6 56. Rd6 h4 57. c5 { 0.27} )41...
Re7 42. Ne5 ( 42. Ne3 Rd7 43. Ra4 Rd8 44. Rea1 Rcd6 45. Rd1 Rc6 46. Nc4 Re8 47.
Rb1 Re7 48. Kd2 Kg7 49. Rb8 Kh6 50. Rg8 Nc7 51. Ra5 Nd5 52. Ne3 Nf4 53. Ra4 c4
54. dxc4 Rd7+ 55. Kc2 Kh5 56. Ra8 Kxh4 57. c5 Kg5 58. Rd4 { 0.42} )42... Rd6 (
42... Rb6 43. Nc4 Rc6 44. Ne3 Rd7 45. Ra4 Rd8 46. Rea1 Rcd6 47. Rd1 Re8 48. Nc4
Rc6 49. Kd2 Rb8 50. Rda1 Nc7 51. Ra5 Rb5 52. f4 Re6 53. Ne5 Nd5 54. Nd7+ Kg7
55. Rxb5 axb5 56. Nxc5 Re7 57. d4 Nxf4 58. Nd3 Nd5 59. h5 Rc7 60. Nc5 Kh6 61.
hxg6 Kxg6 62. Kd3 { 0.44} )43. Nc4 Rc6 44. Ne5 ( 44. Ne3 Rd7 45. Ra4 a5 46.
Rxa5 Nf4 47. Rd1 Kg7 48. Ra4 Nh3 49. d4 cxd4 50. Rdxd4 Rxd4 51. Rxd4 Nxf2 52.
Nd5 Nh3 53. Kd3 g5 54. hxg5 Rc5 55. c4 Nxg5 56. Nf4 Kf6 57. Ke3 Re5+ 58. Kf2
Rc5 59. Nd5+ Kg7 60. Rh4 Ne6 61. Nf4 Nxf4 62. Rxf4 Kf6 63. Rh4 Ke5 { 0.20}
)44... Rd6 ( 44... Rb6 45. Nc4 Rc6 46. Ne3 Kf7 47. Rh1 Kg7 48. Rag1 Rd7 49.
Nxf5+ Kf8 50. Ng3 Nf4 51. h5 Nxd3 52. hxg6 Rb6 53. Rb1 Rxb1 54. Rxb1 hxg6 55.
Ne4 c4 56. Nd2 Nxf2 57. Nxc4 Nd3 58. Ra1 Kg7 59. Ne3 Ne5 60. f4 Nd3 61. f5 gxf5
62. Nxf5+ Kg6 63. Nh4+ Kg5 64. Nf3+ Kf4 { 0.23} )45. Nc4 { Engine Zahak 9.0}
[/pgn]

How I read this? Both players had slight advantages at different stages of the game, both of them didn't take advantage of that
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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Game 2

[pgn]
[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.11.27"]
[Round "2.1"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E05"]
[WhiteElo "2855"]
[BlackElo "2782"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2021.11.25"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 {3} Nf6 {7} 2. c4 {7} e6 {6} 3. Nf3 {8} d5 {6} 4. g3 {7} Be7 {11} 5. Bg2
{17} O-O {8} 6. O-O {14} dxc4 {6} 7. Qc2 {5} b5 {9} 8. Ne5 {220} c6 {548} 9. a4
$1 {262} Nd5 $1 {653} ({Of course not} 9... Qxd4 $6 10. Nxc6 Nxc6 11. Bxc6 $16)
10. Nc3 {32} f6 {642} 11. Nf3 {32} Qd7 {377} 12. e4 {396} Nb4 {518} 13. Qe2 {6}
Nd3 {10} 14. e5 {908} Bb7 {381} 15. exf6 {606} Bxf6 {19} 16. Ne4 {864} Na6 {69}
17. Ne5 {122} Bxe5 {248} ({Don't play} 17... Qxd4 $6 18. Nxf6+ Rxf6 19. axb5
$16) ({Reject} 17... Nxe5 $6 18. dxe5 Bxe5 19. Ng5 $16) 18. dxe5 {16} Nac5 {15}
({But not} 18... Nxe5 $6 19. Ng5 $16) 19. Nd6 {688} Nb3 {33} 20. Rb1 {85} (20.
Be3 $11) 20... Nbxc1 {208} 21. Rbxc1 {10} Nxc1 {6} 22. Rxc1 {5} Rab8 {11} ({
Much weaker is} 22... bxa4 $6 23. Qxc4 Kh8 24. Qxa4 $11) 23. Rd1 {314} Ba8 {569
} 24. Be4 {536} c3 {656} (24... bxa4 $17 25. Qc2 g6 26. Nxc4 Qf7) 25. Qc2 {512}
g6 {122} ({Much weaker is} 25... cxb2 26. Bxh7+ Kh8 27. Bg6 $11) 26. bxc3 {62}
bxa4 {99} (26... Qg7 $17 27. f4 a5) 27. Qxa4 {57} Rfd8 {349} 28. Ra1 {245} c5 {
71} 29. Qc4 {71} Bxe4 {155} 30. Nxe4 {48} Kh8 {15} 31. Nd6 {116} Rb6 {137} 32.
Qxc5 {293} Rdb8 {35} 33. Kg2 {16} a6 {200} 34. Kh3 {9} Rc6 {107} 35. Qd4 {66}
Kg8 {74} 36. c4 {142} Qc7 {71} 37. Qg4 {163} Rxd6 {242} 38. exd6 {2} Qxd6 {5}
39. c5 {106} Qxc5 {237} 40. Qxe6+ {0 Double Attack} Kg7 {0} 41. Rxa6 {256} Rf8
{86} 42. f4 {60} Qf5+ {26} 43. Qxf5 {7} Rxf5 {3} 44. Ra7+ {17} Kg8 {8} 45. Kg4
{35} Rb5 {28} 46. Re7 {2} Ra5 {53} 47. Re5 {34} Ra7 {50} 48. h4 {169} Kg7 {130}
49. h5 {34} Kh6 $1 {110} 50. Kh4 {9} Ra1 {232} 51. g4 {16} Rh1+ $1 {31} 52. Kg3
{3} gxh5 {26} 53. Re6+ {30} Kg7 {3} 54. g5 {9} Rg1+ {63} 55. Kf2 {3} Ra1 $11 {
44} 56. Rh6 {11} Ra4 {200} 57. Kf3 {5} Ra3+ {10} 58. Kf2 {6} Ra4 {3} 1/2-1/2
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For Reference to Game 2

[pgn]
[Event "Paris Immopar rapid"]
[Site "Paris"]
[Date "1992.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Gelfand, Boris"]
[Black "Shirov, Alexei"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E04"]
[WhiteElo "2685"]
[BlackElo "2710"]
[Annotator "Ftacnik,L"]
[PlyCount "72"]
[EventDate "1992.11.??"]
[EventType "k.o. (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "4"]
[EventCountry "FRA"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 033"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1993.04.01"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "1993.04.01"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. g3 dxc4 6. Bg2 b5 7. Ne5 Nd5 8. a4 f6
9. Nf3 b4 10. Ne4 Be7 11. O-O O-O 12. Qc2 Ba6 13. Bh3 f5 14. Neg5 b3 15. Qd1
Rf6 16. e4 Nb4 17. exf5 exf5 18. Re1 Nc2 19. Nxh7 $1 Kxh7 20. Ng5+ Kg6 (20...
Kg8 21. Qh5 Rh6 22. Qf7+ Kh8 23. Rxe7 $18) 21. Ne6 Qh8 22. Bxf5+ $1 Kxf5 (22...
Rxf5 23. Qg4+ Kf6 24. Bg5+ Rxg5 25. Qxg5+ Kf7 26. Qf5+ Bf6 27. Ng5+ Kf8 28.
Qc5+ $18) 23. Qf3+ $4 (23. Nxg7+ $1 Kg6 (23... Qxg7 24. Qh5+) 24. Rxe7 Bc8 25.
Qd2 $18) 23... Kg6 24. Qe4+ Kf7 25. Ng5+ Kg8 26. Qxe7 Qh5 27. Ne6 Rxe6 28. Rxe6
Nxa1 29. Bh6 Qf7 (29... gxh6 30. Qd8+ Kg7 31. Qf6+ Kg8 32. Re7 $18) 30. Qg5 Kh7
31. Bxg7 $4 (31. Re7 Qxe7 32. Qxe7 Kxh6 33. Qe3+ $10) 31... Qxe6 32. Be5 Qg6
33. Qd8 Nd7 34. Qxd7+ Kg8 35. f4 c3 36. f5 cxb2 (36... cxb2 37. fxg6 b1=Q+ 38.
Kf2 Qf1+ 39. Ke3 Nc2+ 40. Ke4 Bd3#) 0-1
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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The level of the first two games could be better. I miss here the technology of Karpov and Bobby Fischer.
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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Game 3

[pgn]
[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.11.28"]
[Round "3.1"]
[White "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C88"]
[WhiteElo "2782"]
[BlackElo "2855"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[EventDate "2021.11.25"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. e4 {7} e5 {6} 2. Nf3 {6} Nc6 {4} 3. Bb5 {22} a6 {8} 4. Ba4 {6} Nf6 {6} 5.
O-O {7} Be7 {6} 6. Re1 {7} b5 {8} 7. Bb3 {7 White until here White until here}
O-O {7} 8. a4 {13} Bb7 {50} 9. d3 {67} d6 {10} 10. Nbd2 {38} Re8 {311 10...Nd7
is a critical line.} 11. Nf1 {266} h6 {94} 12. Bd2 {178} Bf8 {153} 13. Ne3 {20}
Ne7 {109} 14. c4 {20} bxc4 {29} 15. Nxc4 {165 [#]} Nc6 $146 {93} ({Predecessor:
} 15... Rb8 16. Ncxe5 dxe5 17. Nxe5 Kh7 18. Bxf7 Qd6 19. Bc3 Red8 20. Bc4 Nc6
21. Nf7 Qe7 {1-0 (41) Arakhamia Grant,K (2447)-Yildiz Kadioglu,B (2244) Rijeka
2010}) 16. Rc1 {328} a5 {787} 17. Bc3 {451} Bc8 {325} 18. d4 {434} exd4 {92}
19. Nxd4 {79} Nxd4 {9} 20. Qxd4 {15} Be6 {89} 21. h3 {1789} ({Reject} 21. Nxa5
c5 $15) ({Stronger than} 21. Bxa5 Bxc4 22. Qxc4 Rxa5 $17) 21... c6 {1020} 22.
Bc2 {218} d5 {495 [#]} 23. e5 $1 {228} dxc4 {122} 24. Qxd8 {24} Rexd8 {95} 25.
exf6 {6} Bb4 {19} 26. fxg7 {19} Bxc3 {121} 27. bxc3 {5} Kxg7 {11} 28. Kf1 {129}
Rab8 {305} 29. Rb1 {27} Kf6 {24} 30. Rxb8 {116} Rxb8 {11} 31. Rb1 {2} Rxb1+ {35
} 32. Bxb1 {4} Ke5 {7} 33. Ke2 {84} f5 {6} 34. Bc2 {66} f4 {15} 35. Bb1 {68} c5
{32} 36. Bc2 {21} Bd7 {26} 37. f3 {33} Kf6 {18} 38. h4 {43} Ke5 $11 {12} 39.
Kf2 {12} Kf6 {19} 40. Ke2 {0} Ke5 {0} 41. Kf2 {37} 1/2-1/2
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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Boring. To fall asleep. :?
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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Eduard wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:34 pm Boring. To fall asleep. :?
Because you were not in the Hot Seat!! :lol: :lol: As in Boxing, they are still probing for weaknesses and don't want to fall behind on the scorecard. Remember this is a 14 round fight and we are still in the early rounds.
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Re: Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

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What are 14 games? When you get that high prize money, you should give the audience more! There used to be a lot more games. The level is disappointing. Nothing happens in game 3. Black should have won game 2. Karpov and Fischer will not miss such opportunities. For me this world championship is over. Engines play significantly better games with 5 Min Blitz than these players with a lot of thinking time.