Website on computer chess on Mac updated

[wheelman]

Mac of course does support SU and Sudo in terminal.

Given Apple's track record and their current path of streamlining their hw and OS stack. It's likely just a matter of time before they also remove root access on Macs.

Completely boycotting and Not supporting Macs at all, is truly a service to mankind and the future of computing in the longer perspective. Just like moving away from Flash plugins, every developer should take a stance and shy away from locked down, DRM-riddled, un-open, proprietary things from Apple!!

Let some unhappy users b*ch that wasted money on overpriced, un-open stuff.. In the long run they will be thankful and better of without proprietary locked down hw.

DoN't bUy mAcS bUy wHaT fItS mY oWn nEeDs aNd pReFeReNceS!! If most people actually gave a crap about Apple having unopen software, Apple would have probably done something about that. God forbid people have different preferences and needs...

[wickedpotus]

If most people actually gave a crap about Apple having unopen software, Apple would have probably done something about that. God forbid people have different preferences and needs...

I think you should keep in mind that most consumers don't think very far ahead... Some of them may even be surprised that Facebook etc. uses their information for advertisement Or that Twitter could remove their account

Apple gets away with doing evil-sh*t because most users are too dumb to even consider or even understand the long term consequences, when companies are allowed to steal from others but allowed to patent these stolen ideas and implement DRM tech and proprietary stuff themselves to lock in users more, stifle fair competition and drive open competition out of business by "nudging" users in their preferred direction by using their absolute control of hw+sw stacks.

It's kind of like the Matrix.. some people just like to live in a cage, locked in as long as it is "comfortable" and they don't need to do any thinking. it's comfy but harmful for all tech advancements and innovation in the longer run.

I don't think most people know enough about technology to see the dangers of vendor lock-ins. and having a single company controlling all aspects of allowed sw+hw on their important communication device. Just as they don't see the danger of putting all their personal, private details on one "free" online service.

[adams161]

If most people actually gave a crap about Apple having unopen software, Apple would have probably done something about that. God forbid people have different preferences and needs...

I think you should keep in mind that most consumers don't think very far ahead... Some of them may even be surprised that Facebook etc. uses their information for advertisement Or that Twitter could remove their account

Apple gets away with doing evil-sh*t because most users are too dumb to even consider or even understand the long term consequences, when companies are allowed to steal from others but allowed to patent these stolen ideas and implement DRM tech and proprietary stuff themselves to lock in users more, stifle fair competition and drive open competition out of business by "nudging" users in their preferred direction by using their absolute control of hw+sw stacks.

It's kind of like the Matrix.. some people just like to live in a cage, locked in as long as it is "comfortable" and they don't need to do any thinking. it's comfy but harmful for all tech advancements and innovation in the longer run.

I don't think most people know enough about technology to see the dangers of vendor lock-ins. and having a single company controlling all aspects of allowed sw+hw on their important communication device. Just as they don't see the danger of putting all their personal, private details on one "free" online service.

That may be more true of iOS than Mac which this thread is about. Apple Mac's are not that I know vendor locked. I can run any browser and as far as I know any program. I even have windows running in a Parallels VM, which suggests Mac is letting a user through this program do whatever they want to make an OS work. And I have sudo access in terminal.

There is a user friendly security level in Mac. For example downloads for a non sophisticated user wont run if not from a developer who signed their installer with an Apple developer certificate and had once every 5 years joined the program. But it's easy to bypass for the tech user like we see here who wants to do what they want. Simply command click to open. Or go to settings and disable untrusted downloads blocked. Not so terribly different then say android with its allow non play stores APKs in settings. But the security level i like. I start to say well why is this app not bothering to get signed. The added feeling of security in Mac i like but it can be worked around as well. Just users are increasingly saying whats wrong with trying to stick to more trusted sources.

iOS came out in what, 2007? Mac's though are not phones. They have been around since the late 70s or early 80s. They evolved side by side later on next to Windows. The attitude on what a Mac should be able to do by Apple i've continued to see is that it's a computer and should be able to do anything someone with a hacker attitude wants if they go past the drapery on top to make it more seamless for non technical users.

[kaissa]

I just wanted to announce an update on my website that handles computerchess on Mac. It's history goes back to Mac os 7 up to the most recent macOS 12 on M1.

http://macchess.internetcontact.be/

I used to love your page during my college years. I am very glad to see that you have updated your page. Thank you.

[mvanthoor]

Completely boycotting and Not supporting Macs at all, is truly a service to mankind and the future of computing in the longer perspective.

Seems a bit harsh, but to some extent I can relate. I'll have to see if I can cross-compile my engine from Linux to MacOS. Even so, if I can, it can't be tested because I don't have a Mac. If I wanted to do a full test, I'd have needed both an older Intel Mac and an M1... and that's not going to happen. I'm not going to spend any money on a computer I don't have full control over.

[purechess]

Completely boycotting and Not supporting Macs at all, is truly a service to mankind and the future of computing in the longer perspective.

Seems a bit harsh, but to some extent I can relate. I'll have to see if I can cross-compile my engine from Linux to MacOS. Even so, if I can, it can't be tested because I don't have a Mac. If I wanted to do a full test, I'd have needed both an older Intel Mac and an M1... and that's not going to happen. I'm not going to spend any money on a computer I don't have full control over.

You forget you can run Virtual machines with a different OS on your system.

[mvanthoor]

You forget you can run Virtual machines with a different OS on your system.

As far as I can remember, it is illegal to run MacOS on any other computer than a Mac. So you can only run MacOS in a virtual machine on MacOS on a Mac, for testing software in older or newer versions of the OS. You have to jack around with the VM's to get MacOS running under Linux or Windows, not even talking about having to obtain the OS either through someone else, or illegally.

Even MS has some shenanigans with which version of Windows you're allowed to run in a VM.

Because of all that "You can't do this, and that is not allowed"-crap I've given up on non-free operating systems and all software that needs activation or a full time connection to the internet to run. (Except if I don't really care about some day losing that software, such as old/cheap games.)

I want to be able to just pay for a piece of software and then do with it whatever I want... ESPECIALLY when I just paid for it.