Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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mehmet123 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:48 pm I was surprised by the poor performance of Koivisto (21.5 /44) at Leauge 1.
Koivisto had a bug that was introduced here and was fixed here. So the buggy version played at TCEC.
The bug wasn't discovered in early testing cause it is only triggered with multiple threads.
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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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RubiChess wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:07 pm
mehmet123 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:48 pm I was surprised by the poor performance of Koivisto (21.5 /44) at Leauge 1.
Koivisto had a bug that was introduced here and was fixed here. So the buggy version played at TCEC.
The bug wasn't discovered in early testing cause it is only triggered with multiple threads.

Thanks Andreas for information.
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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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Nothing new. Currently Stockfish is leading CCC and TCEC. But were is Koivisto? In Pohl list it is near position 3!
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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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Jouni wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:47 am Nothing new. Currently Stockfish is leading CCC and TCEC. But were is Koivisto? In Pohl list it is near position 3!
Many of the top engines are progressing quite quickly. You can’t look at a rating list and expect it to be predictive of the newest versions in CCC and TCEC.
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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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Jouni wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:47 am Nothing new. Currently Stockfish is leading CCC and TCEC. But were is Koivisto? In Pohl list it is near position 3!
Have read what I wrote just two posts above? Probably not.
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Re: Great Performance of Ethereal NNUE

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Jouni wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:47 am Nothing new. Currently Stockfish is leading CCC and TCEC. But were is Koivisto? In Pohl list it is near position 3!
Koivisto introduced a major bug with the implementation of MultiPV. This led to a performance degradation of about 100-150 Elo at TCEC level. Koivisto simply had an unfortunate bug at an unfortunate timing which caused it to badly underperform at this TCEC.
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