TCEC S24 hardware ?

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RubiChess
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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Jouni wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:52 pm Aha only 2 promotes. So Berserk chances are about 0% now.
You are wrong again.
According to simulation Berserk's chances for promotion are 12.52% at this point:
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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RubiChess wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:35 pm
Jouni wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:59 pm Berserk at position 5. This dev version has a regression?! 4 best goes to Premier Division only.
1. Everything below some thousand games is small sample size
2. Nobody tests at 104 threads so nobody knows if Berserk has what you call "regression".
3. Only two engines promote to DivP.
Not much between theses five engines really, although these are only 4CPU ratings:

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CCRL 40/15 Rating List - Custom engine selection
1551546 games played by 3320 programs, run by 25 testers
Ponder off, General books (up to 12 moves), 3-4-5 piece EGTB
Time control: Equivalent to 40 moves in 15 minutes on an Intel i7-4770k.
Computed on March 4, 2023 with Bayeselo based on 1'551'546 games
Tested by CCRL team, 2005-2023, http://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/4040/

Rank                 Engine                   Elo   +    -   Score  AvOp  Games
  1 Berserk 11.1 64-bit 4CPU                3489  +24  -24  56.6%  -35.7   446
  2 Koivisto 9.0 64-bit 4CPU                3474  +18  -18  55.1%  -28.6   800
  3 Revenge 3.0 64-bit 4CPU                 3472  +13  -13  54.0%  -22.9  1546
4-5 Igel 3.4.0 64-bit 4CPU                  3469  +19  -19  54.0%  -22.0   704
4-5 RubiChess 20221120 64-bit 4CPU          3469  +15  -15  53.2%  -17.8  1191
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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RubiChess wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:47 pm
Jouni wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:52 pm Aha only 2 promotes. So Berserk chances are about 0% now.
You are wrong again.
According to simulation Berserk's chances for promotion are 12.52% at this point:
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
Berserk now in 2nd place and simulations says 24% chances for promotion.
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
A good lesson in the meaning of sss.
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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Assuming that two get promoted (according to the Division 1 rules), Berserk will qualify. :)
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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Jouni wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:52 pm Aha only 2 promotes. So Berserk chances are about 0% now.
Meanwhile the simulation sees probability for Berserk promotion at 56%.
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
Is this still "about 0%" in your world of statistics?
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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RubiChess wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:28 am
Jouni wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:52 pm Aha only 2 promotes. So Berserk chances are about 0% now.
Meanwhile the simulation sees probability for Berserk promotion at 56%.
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
Is this still "about 0%" in your world of statistics?
Berserk chances for promotion now at 99%
https://tcecbayeselo.chessdom.org/2023/ ... imulation/
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Re: TCEC S24 hardware ?

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And 100% before last game. Nice that Berserk made it! In CCC it fights position 4 with Ethereal.
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