Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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carldaman wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:19 pm I've had the same problem. I noticed that the Fritz19 engine was sometimes hogging up the CPU after activating the 'buddy' engine.

Always keep the resource monitor open when working with engines. After killing off the process manually, the buddy engine
would appear to return to normal functionality, but it's a little tiresome to always have to check the resource monitor when analyzing.
Buddy engine has a life of its own, that's true, starting it starts main analysis if it's not running already, loaded engine get's reduced hardware- resources for buddy- instance, stopping main analysis doesn't stop buddy automatically, switching off buddy with not running main analysis starts this one again. But all these processes are to be seen with running or not running analysis in dedicated windows, I don't see any remaining processes in hardware monitor with fully shutting down buddy with referring GUI- command. Buddy- engine is newly added to Fritz with version 19 but I had it in use already in cb17- GUI now and then, still don't use it much, MultiPV- mode and more than one engine loaded as kiebitzers with and without locking analysis- windows to me still is the better way of interactive analysis with more then one concurrency. If buddy would have real shared hash with main engine, (as Rybka 3+ in Fritz- GUI had, being able to be started in further particion of same engine) that would be of special interest to me, but as it is, only parallel working with second particion is done with some kind of automatic multiPV and following the output of main window, that it can be driven by mouse over plies of output- line is fun, but only moves in output can be chosen of course, so kiebitz- engine gives more choices. Buddy as it is to me gives one more toy- feature, automatic commentaries in colours and symbols as well, even if it probably is once again a matter of getting better used to it by using it more than I do so far.
Only other one process in background that I know from Fritz (besides assisted analysis and "coach") is Let's Check, which can be started automatically without opening it's dedicated window, if setting allows so and password is stored, to be as sure as possible, that doesn't happen, even if in setting of Let's Check automatic connection is disabled, I normally use GUI without being logged in at Fritz- startup- window with my user name.
So far once again my observations regarding the item, regards
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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ChessProgram19.exe is the main program. I do NOT want Fritz 19 running. How do I stop it? I only want Dragon or another program to be analyzing. WHY is Fritz 19 running along my engine and LOADING on start up? Still waiting for CB to answer me back. They answered me relatively quick but when I sent them the MP4 file showing fritz 19 engine loading as well as my engine of choice and the screenshots they have not responded so that's a yellow light.
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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I resent this again as CB has not responded to my email from a few days ago, "I sent this a couple of days ago. "Here is a video file showing that Fritz 19 loads with my engine of choice which I always found odd and the before infinite mode and after. I also did notice that when initially installed, the shortcut properties for Fritz 19 had a - fritz 19.exe or something like that after the target"C:\Program Files\ChessBase\F19\ChessProgram19\ChessProgram19.exe" . I deleted thinking that would solve the problem but it was doing it then too.

When I am loading Fritz 19 the engine loads right after the engine I want to use for analysis when the program initially loads as you can see in the video. It never did this in Fritz 18. Others are noticing this too. So WHY is Fritz 19 running when I am analyzing in infinite mode which I have been doing for years and keeps on doing it hogging the majority of my CPU and running my laptop hot? If I had known this I never would have bought Fritz 19. I would've stayed with Fritz 18 but I gave it away to a friend so now I am stuck with this buggy program.

I am not logged into CB and I have assisted analysis. Sorry, I do not understand some of you in English as it is not your natural language. Not that it is a liability as it is one of the most degraded languages starting initially from Hebrew.
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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reflectionofpower wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:58 pm I also did notice that when initially installed, the shortcut properties for Fritz 19 had a - fritz 19.exe or something like that after the target"C:\Program Files\ChessBase\F19\ChessProgram19\ChessProgram19.exe" . I deleted thinking that would solve the problem but it was doing it then too.
ChessProgram19.exe at a path similiar to the one you give is the binary of the GUI.
At my Windows10- installation exactly here:
C:\Program Files\ChessBase\ChessProgram19\ChessProgram19.exe
By double clicking this one file, you start the GUI, don't you?

Fritz19- engine (the uci- one) is here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\ChessBase\Engines.uci\Fritz 19\Fritz 19 AVX2.exe

One thing you could still try before you get answer from cb: deactivate F19- engine by menue
Engine- Engine Management
, there move Fritz 19 from the side of Active engines to the other one of Inactive engines.
If even then at starting the GUI, F19- engine is still loaded, I'd wait for cb- answer (or reinstall the GUI completely, yet reactivation could cost one instance of allowed installations maybe, and if there's any conflict of your setup.msi- file with your system, it won't help neither, so better wait for cb-answer anyhow and if support also tells you to reinstall, ask them for new one setup- file first maybe too),
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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Thx Peter! Shifting Fritz 19 over to inactive engines did the trick. It does not do this behavior anymore.
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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reflectionofpower wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:01 pm Thx Peter! Shifting Fritz 19 over to inactive engines did the trick. It does not do this behavior anymore.
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Is only loading of Fritz- engine gone, or are there no more background processes to be seen at all anymore?
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Re: Fritz 19 using CPU resources??

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Fritz 19 will show up when initially loading the Fritz19, but then it shows no hash use and just disappears and when I look in the processes while in infinite mode the only thing running is Chessprogram18 program (minimal) and the engine of my choice. Thx, again. Nice catch making Fritz19 inactive :wink:
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