Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

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Eduard
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Eduard »

The SF developers have now blocked me on Discord in the sf-dev thread. Reason: I am unwanted.

I really only write there twice a year, only when a topic really interests me intensively. Like now. As soon as I typed the sentence, I saw someone (just 5 seconds later) already write an answer. These people don't even think about what is written. They already know every answer in advance. Like SFisGod.
Modern Times
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Modern Times »

Eduard wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:14 pm These developers are very arrogant in my opinion.
It does seem that way sometimes.

Eduard wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:14 pm The SF developers have now blocked me on Discord in the sf-dev thread. Reason: I am unwanted.
Childish. Sometimes they don't want to hear anything that doesn't follow what they perceive to be the truth and the only truth.


Nevertheless, kudos to them for their amazing achievements and success.
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Pali »

Eduard wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:14 pm Not only were a few parameters changed in evaluate.cpp, but hundreds of new codes were implemented and 161,000 games were played. And the developers celebrate +1 Elo in Bullet and they praise each other for such ideas and achievements. Critics like me, on the other hand, are ridiculed because they have a logical answer for everything. I have never experienced a positive response to my criticism on Discord. But I have already been insulted. These developers are very arrogant in my opinion. One network developer even calls himself “SFisGod.”
What do you suggest be done instead?

I am also not sure which patch in specific are you referring to in the first sentence, would be great if you could clarify.
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

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Eduard wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:13 pm The SF developers have now blocked me on Discord in the sf-dev thread. Reason: I am unwanted.
There are countless other channels in the server that you can use. You got banned from one of them for misusing it.
#sf-dev is heavily moderated and your comments didn't belong there.
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Modern Times »

ImNotStockfish wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:50 pm There are countless other channels in the server that you can use. You got banned from one of them for misusing it.
#sf-dev is heavily moderated and your comments didn't belong there.
They didn't belong there because he had the audacity to make a criticism of Stockfish ?
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Guenther »

Modern Times wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:15 pm
ImNotStockfish wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:50 pm There are countless other channels in the server that you can use. You got banned from one of them for misusing it.
#sf-dev is heavily moderated and your comments didn't belong there.
They didn't belong there because he had the audacity to make a criticism of Stockfish ?
You are sure you can read properly? Guess what 'dev' at the end means?
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

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Modern Times wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:15 pm They didn't belong there because he had the audacity to make a criticism of Stockfish ?
sf-dev is focused on the technical details of development. If you have an idea on how to improve lmr, that’s probably a good place to post. If, on the other hand, you have opinions on how SF isn’t playing as well as it used to (look at Eduard’s posts in this forum for example), then sf-general might be a better place. If you continue to post in sf-dev despite warnings, well, you get what you deserve.

I’ve been banned from the lc0 discord for several years, so I’m quite the expert on this topic. :D
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Modern Times »

Very true, SF-General is the better place.
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

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ImNotStockfish wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:50 pm
Eduard wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:13 pm The SF developers have now blocked me on Discord in the sf-dev thread. Reason: I am unwanted.
There are countless other channels in the server that you can use. You got banned from one of them for misusing it.
#sf-dev is heavily moderated and your comments didn't belong there.
No. He got banned because they didn't like what he was saying.
I don't call this moderation...
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Re: Stockfish 070324 a Disaster

Post by Ciekce »

Joerg Oster wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:51 am No. He got banned because they didn't like what he was saying.
I don't call this moderation...
it's pretty simple why he was blocked from that channel, and it's not some conspiracy theory

can you people stop crying about this kind of thing for 10 seconds my *god*

if you have an actual idea on how to improve stockfish, then it's of course welcome. posting cherrypicked test positions and whining about "stockfimsh bad at solve posimtion :((((" is just useless spam in a channel intended for actual development topics