Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

michiguel wrote:You can post pgn files with the proper tags.

Miguel

[pgn]
[PlyCount "60"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.02"]
[White "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Black "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A44"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "30"]
[MLFlags "000100"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 1... c5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. d5
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 2... e5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 3. e4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 3... d6
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 4. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 5. Nbd2
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 5... Be7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 7. O-O {[%emt 0: 00:03]} 7... Ne8 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 8. h3
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 8... g6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Nb1 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... f5
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Bh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 10... Ng7 {[%emt 0:00: 14]} 11. Nc3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 11... f4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 12. a4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 12... Kh8
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 13. a5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 13... Rg8 {[%emt 0:00:30]} 14. Qe2
{[%emt 0: 00:06]} 14... g5 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 15. Bxg7+ {[%emt 0:00:17]} 15...
Rxg7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 16... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 17.
Rfb1 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 17... h5 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 18. f3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 18... g4
{[%emt 0:00:11]} 19. fxg4 {[%emt 0: 00:15]} 19... hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 20. hxg4
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 20... Bh4 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 21. b4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 21... Bg3
{[%emt 0:00:32]} 22. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 22... Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 23. Nd1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 23... Qh5 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 24. Nf2 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 24... Nd7
{[%emt 0:03:06]} 25. Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:11]} 25... Rxg4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 26. a6
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 26... b6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 27. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 27... Nf6
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 28. Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 28... Rag8 {[%emt 0:01:21]} 29. Rb3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 29... Bh2+ {[%emt 0:00:29]} 30. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 30... Rxg2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1


[PlyCount "102"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.08"]
[White "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Black "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C60"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "51"]
[MLFlags "100100"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 1... e5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 2.
Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2... Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3... Nge7
{[%emt 0:00: 03]} 4. O-O {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4... d6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 5. d4
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 5... Bd7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. c3 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 6... a6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 7. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 7... g6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 8. d5
{[%emt 0:00:15]} 8... Nb8 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 9. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9... Bg7
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Qb3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10... Bc8 {[%emt 0:00: 13]} 11. c4
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 11... Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 12. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 13. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 13... f5 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 14. Rfe1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 14... f4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 15. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 15... h6
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Na4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 16... b6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 17. b4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 17... g5 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 18. h3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 18... Ng6
{[%emt 0:00:15]} 19. c5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 19... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 20. Rec1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 20... g4 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 21. hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 21... Bxg4
{[%emt 0:00:24]} 22. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 22... dxc5 {[%emt 0: 00:22]} 23. bxc5
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 23... b5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 24. Nb2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 24... Nh4
{[%emt 0:00:34]} 25. Be1 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 25... f3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 26. g3
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 26... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 27. a4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 27... Qh5
{[%emt 0:00: 22]} 28. axb5 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 28... Bh3 {[%emt 0:00:34]} 29. Rxa6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 29... Rxa6 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 30. d6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 30... Ng4
{[%emt 0:00:29]} 31. Bc4+ {[%emt 0:00:05]} 31... Kh8 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 32. Be6
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 32... Ng2 {[%emt 0:01: 56]} 33. Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 33...
Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 34. Nc4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 34... Qh3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 35.
Ne3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 35... Nxe3 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 36. fxe3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36...
Ra3 {[%emt 0:00:24]} 37. Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 37... Qxg4 {[%emt 0: 00:03]} 38.
Qf2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 38... h5 {[%emt 0:00:22]} 39. dxc7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39...
Bh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 40. Rc3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 40... Ra1 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 41. c8Q
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 41... Rxc8 {[%emt 0:00:17]} 42. Kh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42... Rd8
{[%emt 0:00: 18]} 43. Rc2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 43... Rdd1 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 44. Ra2
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 44... Rxe1 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 45. Rxa1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 45...
Rxa1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Qb2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 46... h4 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 47.
Qxe5+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 47... Bg7 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 48. Qb8+ {[%emt 0:00:00]}
48... Kh7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 49. b6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 49... hxg3+ {[%emt 0:00:08]}
50. Qxg3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 50... Be5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 51. b7 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
51... Qxg3# {[%emt 0:00:03]} 0-1

But I did not cheat in those games.
Here is another game I just played (having difficulty going to sleep).
Of course, I allowed myself more time, but that is understandable.

[PlyCount "92"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[White "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Black "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A22"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "46"]
[MLFlags "000110"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 1... e5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 2.
Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 2... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 3. e4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3... Bc5
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 4. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 4... d6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 5. Nf3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 5... O-O {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6. O-O {[%emt 0:00:02]} 6... Nc6
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 7. d3 {[%emt 0:00: 02]} 7... Nd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 8. Nxd4
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 8... Bxd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... c6
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 10. Bxd4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 10... exd4 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 11. Nb1
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 11... Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 12. Qb3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 12... Qc7
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 13. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 13... a5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 14. a4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 14... h6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 15. h3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 15... b6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 16. f4 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 16... Bb7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 17. Nf3
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 17... c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 18. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 18... Rfe8
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 19. Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 19... Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 20. g4
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 20... Qd8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 21. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 21... Nb8
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 22. Kh1 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 22... Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 23. Qc2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 23... Qd7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 24. b3 {[%emt 0:00:18]} 24... Kh7
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 25. Rh2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 25... Nb4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 26. Qd2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 26... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 27. Rg1 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 27... Raf8
{[%emt 0:00: 16]} 28. h4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 28... Re8 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 29. f5
{[%emt 0:00:44]} 29... g6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 30. Qf4 {[%emt 0:01:15]} 30... Ref8
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 31. f6 {[%emt 0: 01:32]} 31... Re8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 32. h5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 32... g5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 33. Nxg5+ {[%emt 0:00:25]} 33... hxg5
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 34. Qxg5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 34... Rhg8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Qf4
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 35... Nxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 36... Qe6
{[%emt 0:00:00]} (36... Qe6 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 37. g5 {[%emt 0:00: 29]} 37...
Bxe4+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Rgg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39.
g6+ {[%emt 0:00:13]} 39... Kg8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40. h6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40...
Bxg2+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 41. Kxg2 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 41... fxg6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42.
h7+ {[%emt 0:00: 00]} 42... Kf7 {[%emt 0:00:04]}) 37. g5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 37...
Bxe4+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 38. Rgg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 39.
g6+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 39... Kg8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40. h6 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 40...
Bxg2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 41. Kxg2 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 41... fxg6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
42. h7+ {[%emt 0:00:07]} 42... Kf7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 43. Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:03]}
43... Qxf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 44. Bxg6+ {[%emt 0:00:04]} 44... Kg7
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 45. Qxf6+ {[%emt 0:00:12]} 45... Kxf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46.
Bxe8+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 46... Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 1-0


[PlyCount "96"]
[MLNrOfMoves "48"]
[MLFlags "010100"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.08"]
[White "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Black "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D02"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 1... d5 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 2. d4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 2... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 3. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 3... Nc6
{[%emt 0:00: 04]} 4. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4... Bg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. h3
{[%emt 0:00:12]} 5... Bxf3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 6. Qxf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6... e5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. dxe5 {[%emt 0: 00:05]} 7... Nxe5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 8. Qe2
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 8... Bb4+ {[%emt 0:00:13]} 9. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... Qe7
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 10. a3 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 10... Bd6 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 11. Nc3
{[%emt 0:00:12]} 11... c6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 12. O-O {[%emt 0:00:15]} 12... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 13. f4 {[%emt 0:00:38]} 13... Nxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 14. cxd3
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 14... Rfe8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Rae1 {[%emt 0:00:17]} 15...
Rad8 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 16. e4 {[%emt 0:00:58]} 16... d4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 17. Nd1
{[%emt 0:00:54]} 17... Bc7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Nf2 {[%emt 0:00:31]} 18... Qc5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Qd1 {[%emt 0:01:46]} 19... Qb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 20. b3
{[%emt 0:00:31]} 20... c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 21. a4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 21... Qc6
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 22. g4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 22... h6 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 23. Kh1
{[%emt 0:00:14]} 23... Rc8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 24. Rg1 {[%emt 0: 00:18]} 24... Nh7
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 25. Rg2 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 25... Bd8 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 26. g5
{[%emt 0:00:53]} 26... hxg5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 27. fxg5 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 27... Re6
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 28. h4 {[%emt 0:00:29]} 28... b5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 29. axb5
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 29... Qxb5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 30. h5 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 30... Rb8
{[%emt 0:00:10]} 31. Qg4 {[%emt 0:00:34]} 31... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 32. g6
{[%emt 0:00:50]} 32... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00: 00]} 33. Qh3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 33... Re5
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 34. Ng4 {[%emt 0:01:39]} 34... Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 35. Rxg4
{[%emt 0:00:23]} 35... Rxb3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Reg1 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 36... f5
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 37. Rf4 {[%emt 0:01:39]} 37... fxe4 {[%emt 0:00: 09]} 38. h6
{[%emt 0:01:05]} 38... Rxd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39. Qh2 {[%emt 0:01:22]} 39... Rxd2
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 40. Qxd2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 40... Rh5+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 41. Kg2
{[%emt 0:00:26]} 41... Qxg6+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 42...
Qxh6 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 43. Qa2+ {[%emt 0:00:53]} 43... Kh7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 44.
Qf7 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 44... Bf6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 45. Rxe4 {[%emt 0:01:36]} 45...
Qc1+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Kf2 {[%emt 0:00:18]} 46... Qc2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 47.
Re2 {[%emt 0:00:33]} 47... Rf5+ {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 48. Kg3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 48...
Qd3+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
[/pgn]
Thanks, Miguel
Is there a way of enlarging a bit the diagram of the tool?
It is a bit painful to follow developments on the board with this size.
Or maybe Mr. Casaschi will know something?

Thanks in advance,
Lyudmil
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Don
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by Don »

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
michiguel wrote:You can post pgn files with the proper tags.

Miguel

[pgn]
[PlyCount "60"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.02"]
[White "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Black "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A44"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "30"]
[MLFlags "000100"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 1... c5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. d5
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 2... e5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 3. e4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 3... d6
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 4. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 5. Nbd2
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 5... Be7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 7. O-O {[%emt 0: 00:03]} 7... Ne8 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 8. h3
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 8... g6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Nb1 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... f5
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Bh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 10... Ng7 {[%emt 0:00: 14]} 11. Nc3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 11... f4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 12. a4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 12... Kh8
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 13. a5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 13... Rg8 {[%emt 0:00:30]} 14. Qe2
{[%emt 0: 00:06]} 14... g5 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 15. Bxg7+ {[%emt 0:00:17]} 15...
Rxg7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 16... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 17.
Rfb1 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 17... h5 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 18. f3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 18... g4
{[%emt 0:00:11]} 19. fxg4 {[%emt 0: 00:15]} 19... hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 20. hxg4
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 20... Bh4 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 21. b4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 21... Bg3
{[%emt 0:00:32]} 22. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 22... Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 23. Nd1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 23... Qh5 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 24. Nf2 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 24... Nd7
{[%emt 0:03:06]} 25. Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:11]} 25... Rxg4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 26. a6
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 26... b6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 27. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 27... Nf6
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 28. Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 28... Rag8 {[%emt 0:01:21]} 29. Rb3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 29... Bh2+ {[%emt 0:00:29]} 30. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 30... Rxg2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1


[PlyCount "102"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.08"]
[White "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Black "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C60"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "51"]
[MLFlags "100100"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 1... e5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 2.
Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2... Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3... Nge7
{[%emt 0:00: 03]} 4. O-O {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4... d6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 5. d4
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 5... Bd7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. c3 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 6... a6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 7. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 7... g6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 8. d5
{[%emt 0:00:15]} 8... Nb8 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 9. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9... Bg7
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Qb3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10... Bc8 {[%emt 0:00: 13]} 11. c4
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 11... Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 12. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 13. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 13... f5 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 14. Rfe1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 14... f4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 15. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 15... h6
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Na4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 16... b6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 17. b4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 17... g5 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 18. h3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 18... Ng6
{[%emt 0:00:15]} 19. c5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 19... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 20. Rec1
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 20... g4 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 21. hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 21... Bxg4
{[%emt 0:00:24]} 22. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 22... dxc5 {[%emt 0: 00:22]} 23. bxc5
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 23... b5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 24. Nb2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 24... Nh4
{[%emt 0:00:34]} 25. Be1 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 25... f3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 26. g3
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 26... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 27. a4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 27... Qh5
{[%emt 0:00: 22]} 28. axb5 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 28... Bh3 {[%emt 0:00:34]} 29. Rxa6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 29... Rxa6 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 30. d6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 30... Ng4
{[%emt 0:00:29]} 31. Bc4+ {[%emt 0:00:05]} 31... Kh8 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 32. Be6
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 32... Ng2 {[%emt 0:01: 56]} 33. Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 33...
Bxg4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 34. Nc4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 34... Qh3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 35.
Ne3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 35... Nxe3 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 36. fxe3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36...
Ra3 {[%emt 0:00:24]} 37. Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 37... Qxg4 {[%emt 0: 00:03]} 38.
Qf2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 38... h5 {[%emt 0:00:22]} 39. dxc7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39...
Bh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 40. Rc3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 40... Ra1 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 41. c8Q
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 41... Rxc8 {[%emt 0:00:17]} 42. Kh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42... Rd8
{[%emt 0:00: 18]} 43. Rc2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 43... Rdd1 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 44. Ra2
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 44... Rxe1 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 45. Rxa1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 45...
Rxa1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Qb2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 46... h4 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 47.
Qxe5+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 47... Bg7 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 48. Qb8+ {[%emt 0:00:00]}
48... Kh7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 49. b6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 49... hxg3+ {[%emt 0:00:08]}
50. Qxg3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 50... Be5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 51. b7 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
51... Qxg3# {[%emt 0:00:03]} 0-1

But I did not cheat in those games.
Here is another game I just played (having difficulty going to sleep).
Of course, I allowed myself more time, but that is understandable.

[PlyCount "92"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.11"]
[White "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Black "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A22"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]
[MLNrOfMoves "46"]
[MLFlags "000110"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 1... e5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 2.
Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 2... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 3. e4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 3... Bc5
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 4. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 4... d6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 5. Nf3
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 5... O-O {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6. O-O {[%emt 0:00:02]} 6... Nc6
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 7. d3 {[%emt 0:00: 02]} 7... Nd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 8. Nxd4
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 8... Bxd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... c6
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 10. Bxd4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 10... exd4 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 11. Nb1
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 11... Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 12. Qb3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 12... Qc7
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 13. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 13... a5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 14. a4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 14... h6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 15. h3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 15... b6
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 16. f4 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 16... Bb7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 17. Nf3
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 17... c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 18. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 18... Rfe8
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 19. Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 19... Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 20. g4
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 20... Qd8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 21. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 21... Nb8
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 22. Kh1 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 22... Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 23. Qc2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 23... Qd7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 24. b3 {[%emt 0:00:18]} 24... Kh7
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 25. Rh2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 25... Nb4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 26. Qd2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 26... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 27. Rg1 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 27... Raf8
{[%emt 0:00: 16]} 28. h4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 28... Re8 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 29. f5
{[%emt 0:00:44]} 29... g6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 30. Qf4 {[%emt 0:01:15]} 30... Ref8
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 31. f6 {[%emt 0: 01:32]} 31... Re8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 32. h5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 32... g5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 33. Nxg5+ {[%emt 0:00:25]} 33... hxg5
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 34. Qxg5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 34... Rhg8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Qf4
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 35... Nxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 36... Qe6
{[%emt 0:00:00]} (36... Qe6 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 37. g5 {[%emt 0:00: 29]} 37...
Bxe4+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Rgg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39.
g6+ {[%emt 0:00:13]} 39... Kg8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40. h6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40...
Bxg2+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 41. Kxg2 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 41... fxg6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42.
h7+ {[%emt 0:00: 00]} 42... Kf7 {[%emt 0:00:04]}) 37. g5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 37...
Bxe4+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 38. Rgg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38... Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 39.
g6+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 39... Kg8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 40. h6 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 40...
Bxg2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 41. Kxg2 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 41... fxg6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
42. h7+ {[%emt 0:00:07]} 42... Kf7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 43. Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:03]}
43... Qxf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 44. Bxg6+ {[%emt 0:00:04]} 44... Kg7
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 45. Qxf6+ {[%emt 0:00:12]} 45... Kxf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46.
Bxe8+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 46... Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 1-0


[PlyCount "96"]
[MLNrOfMoves "48"]
[MLFlags "010100"]
[Event "Blitz 2m+2s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2013.06.08"]
[White "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Black "Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D02"]
[TimeControl "120+2"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]

{1024MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 1... d5 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 2. d4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 2... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 3. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 3... Nc6
{[%emt 0:00: 04]} 4. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4... Bg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. h3
{[%emt 0:00:12]} 5... Bxf3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 6. Qxf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 6... e5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. dxe5 {[%emt 0: 00:05]} 7... Nxe5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 8. Qe2
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 8... Bb4+ {[%emt 0:00:13]} 9. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 9... Qe7
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 10. a3 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 10... Bd6 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 11. Nc3
{[%emt 0:00:12]} 11... c6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 12. O-O {[%emt 0:00:15]} 12... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 13. f4 {[%emt 0:00:38]} 13... Nxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 14. cxd3
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 14... Rfe8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Rae1 {[%emt 0:00:17]} 15...
Rad8 {[%emt 0: 00:06]} 16. e4 {[%emt 0:00:58]} 16... d4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 17. Nd1
{[%emt 0:00:54]} 17... Bc7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Nf2 {[%emt 0:00:31]} 18... Qc5
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Qd1 {[%emt 0:01:46]} 19... Qb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 20. b3
{[%emt 0:00:31]} 20... c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 21. a4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 21... Qc6
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 22. g4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 22... h6 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 23. Kh1
{[%emt 0:00:14]} 23... Rc8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 24. Rg1 {[%emt 0: 00:18]} 24... Nh7
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 25. Rg2 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 25... Bd8 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 26. g5
{[%emt 0:00:53]} 26... hxg5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 27. fxg5 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 27... Re6
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 28. h4 {[%emt 0:00:29]} 28... b5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 29. axb5
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 29... Qxb5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 30. h5 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 30... Rb8
{[%emt 0:00:10]} 31. Qg4 {[%emt 0:00:34]} 31... Qe8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 32. g6
{[%emt 0:00:50]} 32... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00: 00]} 33. Qh3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 33... Re5
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 34. Ng4 {[%emt 0:01:39]} 34... Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 35. Rxg4
{[%emt 0:00:23]} 35... Rxb3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Reg1 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 36... f5
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 37. Rf4 {[%emt 0:01:39]} 37... fxe4 {[%emt 0:00: 09]} 38. h6
{[%emt 0:01:05]} 38... Rxd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39. Qh2 {[%emt 0:01:22]} 39... Rxd2
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 40. Qxd2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 40... Rh5+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 41. Kg2
{[%emt 0:00:26]} 41... Qxg6+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 42. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 42...
Qxh6 {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 43. Qa2+ {[%emt 0:00:53]} 43... Kh7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 44.
Qf7 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 44... Bf6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 45. Rxe4 {[%emt 0:01:36]} 45...
Qc1+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Kf2 {[%emt 0:00:18]} 46... Qc2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 47.
Re2 {[%emt 0:00:33]} 47... Rf5+ {[%emt 0: 00:00]} 48. Kg3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 48...
Qd3+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
[/pgn]
Thanks, Miguel
Is there a way of enlarging a bit the diagram of the tool?
It is a bit painful to follow developments on the board with this size.
Or maybe Mr. Casaschi will know something?

Thanks in advance,
Lyudmil
You can use the standard method of enlarging the browser screen and the diagram will enlarge with it.

I have no idea if there is away to enlarge just the diagram itself.

Don
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

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Don wrote:
Leto wrote:

It's not matching Stockfish, or Komodo, or Rybka, or even Houdini 1.5 or Houdini 2, it's specifically matching Houdini 3. Even that alone is enough to make it obvious that he's cheating and using Houdini 3.
We have shown time and time again that even computers of equal strength have their own styles and will not match the moves of each other consistently. There is still a very strongly held misconception that if you keep getting stronger you are going to match the moves of a strong program a lot more. The reality is that you might match the moves of a strong program SLIGHTLY more and that is it. This misconception give the fallacious argument that "of course he matches Houdini, he is playing really strongly!!!"
Yes I know programs have their own style, that was my point. Houdini 3's style is different than H1.5 and H2. His moves match H3, doesn't match other engines. That alone is enough proof he is cheating and using H3.
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by GenoM »

GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I do not know why everybody is attacking the guy while there is no evidence whatsoever that he is cheating apart from some inconclusive computer-related speculations.
There is something called "common sense" and there is something called "expertise"

Than what would you call expertise, Lilov's analyses, which Miguel shows are dubious at the least?
Forget Lilov's "analyses", he's too biased. Look at the opinion of many chess professionals + that of Kenneth Regan and Robert Houdart.
GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:Borislav is living on his own, his parents are divorced and half of the family lives abroad. I think he has a tough time of it just because of this reason. Reading some Bulgarian chess fora, you would be surprised at the viciousness of the attacks against him, although he tries to keep his ground by retorting accordingly.
Oh I`m almost touched. Poor boy, this Ivanov! By the way, I agree with your opinion about attacks against him in bulgarian chess fora -- they are way too much beyond the "bon ton".

But why no one wants to play with him? They are reluctant to help clear the matter, while Borislav is eager to time and again be put to the test of being exposed guilty. His attitude convinces me more than that of his detractors.
Why noone wants to play with him? Because noone wants to play against a computer when one has to play against Ivanov. They went there to play against people not against hidden computers. It's a very natural reaction, don't you think?
GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:He is not a programmer, and I am convinced that he is more or less technically ignorant, not to mention trying to make use of complex schemes beyond the grasp of everybody around for personal benefit.
He has been thoroughly checked on more than one occasions and nothing has been found. It might have been humiliating to pass through this experience. Exceptional results at blitz (the Kyustendil tournament) would also suggest that he is not making use of any engine aid. It is simply impossible to be suspected of cheating while making a couple of moves in a couple of seconds, sometimes immediately after the opponent's move. There is simply no possibility to cheat there.
"Thoroughly"? I`m not so sure. Or may be we have different views about the real meaning of this word "thoroughly".

It was as thorough as it could be given the particular circumstances. The important thing at that is that he did not attempt obstructing any suggested checks.
The search was not so zealous as it could be. There is privacy, there are laws etc. etc. So called "suggested checks" aren't so serious to obstruct them, obviously (just a guess)
GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I do not buy into those 'first lines' of Houdini. Everyone knows that first lines would depend on hardware used, time control, etc. So if Lilov claims Borislav is playing some 90% Houdini's first choices, than Lilov must be a clairvoyant to have knowledge of the hardware and settings of the machine used for cheating. I would assume it is easier to be a 'genius' than a clairvoyant. Should we now accuse Lilov of 'clairvoyancy'?

The Bulgarian chess federation banned Borislav for 4 months (exactly for the period when there are plenty of tourneys on the Black Sea Coast) on no reasonable grounds at all. They simply did not have the right to do that, as you know that everyone is innocent until proven otherwise. It is interesting to know why did not they investigate alleged cases of purchased GM and other titles throughout the years. You have the games, everything would look very suspicicous, but they would just close their eyes. It is interesting that some of the players that bought their titles (by securing points under the table in vital games) are now very vociferant against Borislav.
Bulgarian chess federation banned B.I. for his "unethical behavior" and public statements like "chess players are buttheads". That was official reason for banning him. Unofficial was that summer tournaments would suffer from many chess players boycotting them (it's just my guess based on some facts).

Evgeni, when you are bound to speculate on 'official' and 'unofficial' reasons for a decision, then the decision sucks.
That's just my guess, I repeat. Official reason for banning Ivanov is clear and valid.
GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I have looked into the games of Borko and I would say that even before 2012 he has had a pretty nice level of play and positional understanding, scoring many wins way above what his elo status would suggest at the time. If you do this once, you can certainly do it many more times. Starting from Zadar onwards, I would say that what could arouse doubt is not the probable high-percentage of so called 'Houdini first choices', because some of those moves are really very natural and human, but the 5 to 10 percent of engine-like moves in certain games.
What would you say about his performance at Tringov Memorial this year? A steady growth? Mmm, no. So what is it?

It has been the first tournament after Zadar, it has been difficult to play psychologically.
Hard to play psychologically against ~1800-1900 rated children?! It seems that for B.I. it's harder "psychologically" to play against them instead of 2600+ rated GM`s. But may be for you that is normal behavior... For me it's not.
GenoM wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:Is 10% a high percentage to claim that he is cheating, or maybe there is a way after all for a normal human to play a couple of strictly-computer moves in a game? I would rather say that it is quite possible to play such moves, if the person has been training extensively with engines and has some natural penchant for the engines' style. I do not see why not. Borislav claims to have started training with computer assistance only recently (to be more precise, during 2012) and maybe that has boosted his strength significantly.

The guy himself says that he is neither a cheater, nor a genius, but has some natural talent for deep concentration and keeping calm throughout the games. I think concentrating properly is really very important and that could explain taking of decisions very close to computer choices.

Personally, I am convinced, that it is possible for humans to play on a much higher level than they would think they could play under normal conditions, if they have the opportunity to concentrate properly. Normal tournament conditions (high level of noise, distracting practices of opponents, unfair competition, stress) are not ideal for concentrating at a level to start playing machine-like moves, but what if a person has a natural talent for concentration?

Borislav has invited a couple of Bulgarian GMs to match their strengths with all necessary checks being carried out, but they have all refused. I would not say a cheater would make such a step. He has proposed to Kiril Georgiev to play in a 'bunker' with no possibility for electronic interference. He is eager to play in other tournaments, and I think no cheater would esily do that too. A couple of days ago he has had a thorough check carried on him in the Military Medical Academy in Sofia, and the medics said that he is clear what concerns possible subcutaneous devices, so that he has nothing implanted on him. His clothes and belongings have also been regularly checked.

Going back to those 'first line' assumptions, I do not see why a really clever cheater would not use Discocheck or Texel for aid instead of Houdini, with sufficient incoming boost of strength, as there would hardly be anyone suggesting the guy has used Discocheck (at least at the current status of Discocheck). Those first line scenarios are absolutely paranoic.

I think humans in general have difficulty imagining that they could play at a level similar to top engines, and therefore most GMs and strong players simply ignore the problem that there is an artificial intelligence far exceeding their normal GM capabilites, making their performances mostly irrelevant. And the problem is of course, lack of sufficient computer training and lack of in-depth concentration. Maybe if you find a way to concentrate at a much deeper level you would not readily join the camp of supporters of cheating accusations when they are totally devoid of ground.

Best, Lyudmil
Honestly, I never thought that in the computer chess forum there will be anyone who doubts B.I. is cheating. But it's never to late to learn new things, obviously :)

It is never too late to learn new things, really.

Best, Lyudmil
Ask Miguel Ballicora and Larry Kaufman and other strong chess players here what do they think about this case. May be you'll learn some new things too :) It's never too late, remember? :)
take it easy :)
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Geno, just referring to the psychological underpinning for the underperformance of Borislav in Plovdiv.

Drawing against much lower-rated girls and beating up on much stronger
opponents is what I would call chivalry.

I myself would have compunctions securing an easy win against a tiny little
girl facing me.
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by Don »

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:Geno, just referring to the psychological underpinning for the underperformance of Borislav in Plovdiv.

Drawing against much lower-rated girls and beating up on much stronger
opponents is what I would call chivalry.

I myself would have compunctions securing an easy win against a tiny little
girl facing me.
You got this all figured out, don't you? Grasping for any explanation you can that might be compatible with your belief that Borislav is an honest man, even an honorable man now!

Based on what is known so far, it seems REALLY far fetched that this would explain his motives - compassion for others? Come on ....
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by Hood »

That is my point. Lilov can be compared to papparazi. He is hunting for sensation and made his person doubtful.
It is unbelieveable how many people are following such persons.
Polish National tragedy in Smoleńsk. President and all delegation murdered or killed.
Cui bono ?

There are not bugs free programs.
There are programs with undiscovered bugs.




Ashes to ashes dust to dust. Alleluia.
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by noctiferus »

I don't want to raise further flames here, but I think it's useful, for any side, to get informations spreaded in other forums.

Here a postmortem comment by GM Georgiev, and another poster:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2340
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... 3&start=10
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by noctiferus »

a follow-up:
Rombaldoni's comments about his game with Ivanov in "Old capital"
http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 90613.aspx
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Re: Borislav Ivanov: a Lilov's add-on

Post by stevenaaus »

[d]
There were like nine popular responses for this position, but 8.Bf4! was not among them. Still, it was the first choice that most top computer engines would make. And I must say that after 7.b3 a move like Bf4 looks weird...
I wonder how he is doing it ?! We need a poll.