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Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
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beachknight
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
hi, merhaba, hallo HT
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pedrox
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
Hi Swami,
With this list of games maybe you can make a ranking of engines (ELO) in 1+1
We can download the games?
I am interested in know whether DanaSah and Caligula lost in time, I believe that the 2 versions have problems if they play with bitbases (5 men). I think I have solved this for the next version.
The engines used tablebases or bitbases?
Only a small bug, Alfil must have Spanish flag
Best,
Pedro
With this list of games maybe you can make a ranking of engines (ELO) in 1+1
We can download the games?
I am interested in know whether DanaSah and Caligula lost in time, I believe that the 2 versions have problems if they play with bitbases (5 men). I think I have solved this for the next version.
The engines used tablebases or bitbases?
Only a small bug, Alfil must have Spanish flag
Best,
Pedro
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Zach Wegner
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
Damn, the end came too fast. I was planning on putting my guesses in right before it ended so I could win.
That was what my deleted post was earlier. Next time, you should have another category to pick something besides the top X, but that's just me. Thanks for putting on the tournament though, it's pretty cool. I would also like to see a bayeselo output of the whole thing.
I can be happy with 25/101 though, not too bad at all. I've been working on the eval and the search, and I can assure you that the next version will be much stronger. The question is when it will be released.
I can be happy with 25/101 though, not too bad at all. I've been working on the eval and the search, and I can assure you that the next version will be much stronger. The question is when it will be released.
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swami
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
Hi Pedro,
Yes, I will make the ratings output, both with Bayses elo and Elo stat.
It looks like some engines use bitbases, but most engines win with Arena adjudication settings of eval score >4. The file size for games is actually 45 mb, winrared to 15 mb. I don't know how to upload the large file sizes, email attachments only permit me only 10 mb. googlepages takes very long time to upload the file. Is there any other alternative? such as uploading websites? how do you do that?
Yes, I will make the ratings output, both with Bayses elo and Elo stat.
It looks like some engines use bitbases, but most engines win with Arena adjudication settings of eval score >4. The file size for games is actually 45 mb, winrared to 15 mb. I don't know how to upload the large file sizes, email attachments only permit me only 10 mb. googlepages takes very long time to upload the file. Is there any other alternative? such as uploading websites? how do you do that?
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swami
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Thanks Zach, I miss your predictions. I didn't see your deleted post, you mean you deleted it yourself? Ofcourse I was also interested in people guessing the middle order and lower order engines but it seems majority voted 'no'.Zach Wegner wrote:Damn, the end came too fast. I was planning on putting my guesses in right before it ended so I could win.That was what my deleted post was earlier. Next time, you should have another category to pick something besides the top X, but that's just me. Thanks for putting on the tournament though, it's pretty cool. I would also like to see a bayeselo output of the whole thing.
I can be happy with 25/101 though, not too bad at all. I've been working on the eval and the search, and I can assure you that the next version will be much stronger. The question is when it will be released.
Ofcourse I will post the elo ratings output. Actually ZCT scored 25/100 (not 101).
I'm looking forward to testing out the next version once it is released
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Tony Thomas
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I guess we dont have to race our tin cans after all. I will keep that in a glass case for future use.Graham Banks wrote:Damn - sprung!Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: Graham Banks and Tony Thomas have cheated to get themselves in the top 10....
Trying to make troubles regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
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beachknight
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
Hi Swami,swami wrote:Hi Pedro,
Yes, I will make the ratings output, both with Bayses elo and Elo stat.
It looks like some engines use bitbases, but most engines win with Arena adjudication settings of eval score >4. The file size for games is actually 45 mb, winrared to 15 mb. I don't know how to upload the large file sizes, email attachments only permit me only 10 mb. googlepages takes very long time to upload the file. Is there any other alternative? such as uploading websites? how do you do that?
You shouldnt send files bigger than 1 MB with email.
Upload them a fast server like rapid or Jims ones
and share the link with us. So easy as it seems.
Best,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT
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swami
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Yes, That's what my doubt is, Can you tell me step by step how to upload the files in host servers?beachknight wrote: Hi Swami,
You shouldnt send files bigger than 1 MB with email.
Upload them a fast server like rapid or Jims ones
and share the link with us. So easy as it seems.
Best,
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swami
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!
Ratings ELOSTAT 1.3
Start Rating: 2550.
Start Rating: 2550.
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Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 Bright-0.3a : 2918 107 98 100 89.5 % 2546 7.0 %
2 The King 3.50 Trail Blazer : 2848 87 82 100 85.0 % 2547 12.0 %
3 TogaII14-5c : 2835 86 81 100 84.0 % 2547 12.0 %
4 Spike1.2 : 2822 75 72 100 83.0 % 2547 20.0 %
5 TwistedLogic20080620 : 2816 76 73 100 82.5 % 2547 19.0 %
6 Thinker 5.2b (Passive) : 2816 74 71 100 82.5 % 2547 21.0 %
7 Fruit-051103 : 2793 76 73 100 80.5 % 2547 17.0 %
8 Scorpio 2.0 : 2767 70 67 100 78.0 % 2547 22.0 %
9 Glaurung 2.1 : 2762 75 72 100 77.5 % 2547 15.0 %
10 Naum 2.0 : 2743 69 67 100 75.5 % 2548 21.0 %
11 Frenzee Feb 2008 : 2729 77 74 100 74.0 % 2548 6.0 %
12 Delfi 5.3b : 2716 70 67 100 72.5 % 2548 17.0 %
13 ET_Chess 13.01.08 : 2688 68 66 101 69.3 % 2546 15.8 %
14 WildCat_8 : 2687 67 65 100 69.0 % 2548 18.0 %
15 Ruffian_105 : 2679 63 62 100 68.0 % 2548 24.0 %
16 Alaric707 : 2678 69 68 101 68.3 % 2544 11.9 %
17 SlowChess Blitz WV2.1 : 2675 65 63 100 67.5 % 2548 21.0 %
18 Pharaon 3.5 : 2660 68 66 100 65.5 % 2548 13.0 %
19 Pro Deo 1.6 : 2656 64 63 100 65.0 % 2548 20.0 %
20 DanChess CCT 7 : 2656 62 61 100 65.0 % 2548 24.0 %
21 Cyrano 0.5 : 2648 60 59 100 64.0 % 2549 28.0 %
22 List512 : 2641 62 61 100 63.0 % 2549 24.0 %
23 Crafty 22.1 : 2641 64 63 100 63.0 % 2549 20.0 %
24 Trace 1.37a : 2637 62 61 100 62.5 % 2549 23.0 %
25 GarboChess2.20 : 2630 64 63 100 61.5 % 2549 19.0 %
26 Hamsters_Extreme 0.7 : 2626 63 62 100 61.0 % 2549 20.0 %
27 Pseudo07c : 2623 62 61 100 60.5 % 2549 23.0 %
28 Movei00_8_446 : 2623 61 60 100 60.5 % 2549 25.0 %
29 Sloppy 0.20 : 2623 59 58 100 60.5 % 2549 29.0 %
30 Jonny 2.83 : 2623 63 63 100 60.5 % 2549 19.0 %
31 Aristarch 4.50 : 2619 64 63 100 60.0 % 2549 18.0 %
32 Baron 1.8.1 : 2609 63 62 100 58.5 % 2549 19.0 %
33 Tao 5.6 : 2609 65 65 100 58.5 % 2549 13.0 %
34 Zappa 1.1 MP : 2609 60 60 100 58.5 % 2549 25.0 %
35 Gothmog_10b10 : 2609 58 57 100 58.5 % 2549 31.0 %
36 BugChess2_V1_6_2 : 2605 61 60 100 58.0 % 2549 24.0 %
37 Colossus2007d : 2605 62 61 100 58.0 % 2549 22.0 %
38 AnMon_5.60WB : 2602 64 63 100 57.5 % 2549 17.0 %
39 Ufim802 : 2598 64 63 100 57.0 % 2549 16.0 %
40 Petir4999999 : 2598 65 64 100 57.0 % 2549 14.0 %
41 Booot414 : 2588 60 60 100 55.5 % 2549 25.0 %
42 Alfil811 : 2588 62 61 100 55.5 % 2549 21.0 %
43 Abrok 6.0 : 2570 62 62 100 53.0 % 2549 20.0 %
44 WbNimzo2000b : 2570 63 62 100 53.0 % 2549 18.0 %
45 LGRevival : 2570 62 62 100 53.0 % 2549 20.0 %
46 Cerebro 3.03d : 2567 62 62 100 52.5 % 2549 19.0 %
47 Hermann 2.3 MP : 2567 62 62 100 52.5 % 2549 19.0 %
48 Ktulu 4.2 : 2560 63 63 100 51.5 % 2549 17.0 %
49 Glc301.2.2 : 2560 63 63 100 51.5 % 2549 17.0 %
50 Arasan 10.4 MP : 2550 61 61 100 50.0 % 2550 22.0 %
51 Anatoli 0.35k : 2550 62 62 100 50.0 % 2550 20.0 %
52 Gromit382 : 2550 62 62 100 50.0 % 2550 20.0 %
53 Snitch 1.6.2 : 2529 62 62 100 47.0 % 2550 20.0 %
54 RomiChessP3k : 2525 60 60 100 46.5 % 2550 25.0 %
55 Kiwi 0.6d : 2525 61 61 100 46.5 % 2550 21.0 %
56 Matacz_1.3_HT37 : 2525 63 64 100 46.5 % 2550 15.0 %
57 Quark 2.35 : 2522 64 64 100 46.0 % 2550 14.0 %
58 Caligula03b : 2515 63 64 100 45.0 % 2550 16.0 %
59 KnightDreamer 3.2 : 2515 61 61 100 45.0 % 2550 22.0 %
60 King of Kings 2.56 : 2512 64 64 100 44.5 % 2550 15.0 %
61 WChessUCI : 2508 60 60 100 44.0 % 2550 24.0 %
62 Danasah370Wb : 2498 59 59 100 42.5 % 2550 27.0 %
63 Phalanx22 : 2490 62 63 100 41.5 % 2550 19.0 %
64 Pepito 1.59 : 2487 64 64 100 41.0 % 2550 16.0 %
65 Horizon_4_4 : 2487 64 64 100 41.0 % 2550 16.0 %
66 Diablo051 : 2483 62 63 100 40.5 % 2550 19.0 %
67 SpiderChess070603 : 2483 60 61 100 40.5 % 2550 25.0 %
68 Amyan 1.597 : 2480 65 65 100 40.0 % 2550 14.0 %
69 Comet_B68 : 2480 64 65 100 40.0 % 2550 16.0 %
70 Queen 403 : 2473 61 62 100 39.0 % 2550 22.0 %
71 Bruja_19 : 2473 62 63 100 39.0 % 2550 20.0 %
72 Arion 1.7 : 2470 62 63 101 39.6 % 2544 19.8 %
73 Terra34 : 2469 64 65 100 38.5 % 2550 17.0 %
74 Tcb0052 : 2462 63 64 100 37.5 % 2550 19.0 %
75 Typhoon 3.57 : 2462 64 65 100 37.5 % 2550 17.0 %
76 Leila_053h : 2459 65 66 101 38.1 % 2544 12.9 %
77 Nejmet_307 : 2458 65 66 100 37.0 % 2550 14.0 %
78 Amy-net-087 : 2451 64 65 100 36.0 % 2551 18.0 %
79 Cheese_12 : 2443 63 64 100 35.0 % 2551 20.0 %
80 xpdnt_080716_ja : 2439 65 67 100 34.5 % 2551 15.0 %
81 Delphil 1.9 : 2439 66 68 100 34.5 % 2551 13.0 %
82 Counter 0.8 : 2432 63 64 100 33.5 % 2551 21.0 %
83 Bbchess13a : 2428 70 72 100 33.0 % 2551 6.0 %
84 Gaia 3.5 : 2424 62 64 100 32.5 % 2551 23.0 %
85 Joker1114w : 2420 65 67 100 32.0 % 2551 18.0 %
86 GreKo 5.8.5 : 2420 65 67 100 32.0 % 2551 18.0 %
87 Flux 2.2 : 2416 63 64 100 31.5 % 2551 23.0 %
88 Homer_201 : 2412 65 67 100 31.0 % 2551 18.0 %
89 Dirty 0.99n : 2408 66 68 100 30.5 % 2551 17.0 %
90 Sorgenkind 0.4 : 2404 68 70 100 30.0 % 2551 14.0 %
91 Aice : 2400 70 73 100 29.5 % 2551 9.0 %
92 Muse0899b : 2391 67 69 100 28.5 % 2551 17.0 %
93 NOW Jan 08 : 2383 69 72 100 27.5 % 2551 13.0 %
94 Yace Paderborn : 2383 74 78 100 27.5 % 2551 3.0 %
95 LambChop1099 : 2374 71 74 100 26.5 % 2551 11.0 %
96 Brutus_52_win32 : 2365 70 72 100 25.5 % 2551 15.0 %
97 Knightx192 : 2361 71 73 100 25.0 % 2551 14.0 %
98 ZCT 0.3.2447 : 2360 68 70 101 24.8 % 2553 17.8 %
99 Eveann 1.63 : 2306 76 80 100 19.5 % 2552 13.0 %
100 DeepPatzer : 2171 107 121 101 9.9 % 2555 2.0 %
101 Averno081 : 2141 116 134 100 8.5 % 2554 1.0 %
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BayesELO Ratings
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Bright-0.3a 2950 97 82 100 90% 2549 7%
2 The King 3.50 Trail Blazer 2874 83 73 100 85% 2550 12%
3 TogaII14-5c 2862 82 73 100 84% 2550 12%
4 TwistedLogic20080620 2830 75 68 100 83% 2550 19%
5 Spike1.2 2830 75 68 100 83% 2550 20%
6 Thinker 5.2b (Passive) 2822 74 67 100 83% 2551 21%
7 Fruit-051103 2812 74 68 100 81% 2551 17%
8 Glaurung 2.1 2787 72 66 100 78% 2551 15%
9 Scorpio 2.0 2779 70 65 100 78% 2551 22%
10 Frenzee Feb 2008 2768 74 68 100 74% 2551 6%
11 Naum 2.0 2764 69 64 100 76% 2551 21%
12 Delfi 5.3b 2735 67 63 100 73% 2551 17%
13 Alaric707 2709 67 64 101 68% 2547 12%
14 ET_Chess 13.01.08 2701 67 63 101 69% 2550 16%
15 Ruffian_105 2700 64 61 100 68% 2552 24%
16 WildCat_8 2699 66 63 100 69% 2552 18%
17 SlowChess Blitz WV2.1 2695 65 62 100 68% 2552 21%
18 Pharaon 3.5 2683 66 63 100 66% 2552 13%
19 Pro Deo 1.6 2674 65 62 100 65% 2552 20%
20 DanChess CCT 7 2667 63 61 100 65% 2552 24%
21 Crafty 22.1 2662 63 61 100 63% 2552 20%
22 Cyrano 0.5 2662 62 60 100 64% 2552 28%
23 List512 2660 62 61 100 63% 2552 24%
24 Trace 1.37a 2653 62 60 100 63% 2552 23%
25 GarboChess2.20 2642 63 61 100 62% 2552 19%
26 Pseudo07c 2640 62 61 100 61% 2552 23%
27 Jonny 2.83 2638 63 62 100 61% 2552 19%
28 Hamsters_Extreme 0.7 2637 63 61 100 61% 2552 20%
29 Sloppy 0.20 2635 61 59 100 61% 2552 29%
30 Movei00_8_446 2633 61 60 100 61% 2552 25%
31 Aristarch 4.50 2633 64 62 100 60% 2552 18%
32 Gothmog_10b10 2627 60 59 100 59% 2552 31%
33 Tao 5.6 2626 63 62 100 59% 2552 13%
34 Baron 1.8.1 2623 63 62 100 59% 2552 19%
35 AnMon_5.60WB 2621 63 62 100 58% 2553 17%
36 Zappa 1.1 MP 2618 61 60 100 59% 2553 25%
37 BugChess2_V1_6_2 2617 61 60 100 58% 2553 24%
38 Colossus2007d 2616 62 61 100 58% 2553 22%
39 Petir4999999 2610 64 62 100 57% 2553 14%
40 Ufim802 2608 63 62 100 57% 2553 16%
41 Alfil811 2601 62 61 100 56% 2553 21%
42 Booot414 2598 61 60 100 56% 2553 25%
43 Cerebro 3.03d 2577 61 61 100 53% 2553 19%
44 Abrok 6.0 2577 61 61 100 53% 2553 20%
45 WbNimzo2000b 2575 62 62 100 53% 2553 18%
46 Hermann 2.3 MP 2574 61 61 100 53% 2553 19%
47 Ktulu 4.2 2571 63 62 100 52% 2553 17%
48 LGRevival 2569 62 61 100 53% 2553 20%
49 Glc301.2.2 2564 62 62 100 52% 2553 17%
50 Anatoli 0.35k 2558 62 62 100 50% 2553 20%
51 Arasan 10.4 MP 2554 60 60 100 50% 2553 22%
52 Gromit382 2552 62 62 100 50% 2553 20%
53 Kiwi 0.6d 2532 61 61 100 47% 2553 21%
54 Matacz_1.3_HT37 2527 63 63 100 47% 2553 15%
55 RomiChessP3k 2523 60 61 100 47% 2553 25%
56 Snitch 1.6.2 2523 61 61 100 47% 2553 20%
57 Quark 2.35 2523 63 63 100 46% 2553 14%
58 KnightDreamer 3.2 2517 61 62 100 45% 2554 22%
59 Caligula03b 2512 62 62 100 45% 2554 16%
60 WChessUCI 2510 60 61 100 44% 2554 24%
61 King of Kings 2.56 2509 62 63 100 45% 2554 15%
62 Danasah370Wb 2500 59 60 100 43% 2554 27%
63 SpiderChess070603 2488 60 61 100 41% 2554 25%
64 Phalanx22 2488 62 63 100 42% 2554 19%
65 Horizon_4_4 2483 62 63 100 41% 2554 16%
66 Pepito 1.59 2481 62 63 100 41% 2554 16%
67 Comet_B68 2481 62 64 100 40% 2554 16%
68 Diablo051 2479 61 63 100 41% 2554 19%
69 Queen 403 2476 61 63 100 39% 2554 22%
70 Amyan 1.597 2475 62 64 100 40% 2554 14%
71 Arion 1.7 2467 61 62 101 40% 2551 20%
72 Terra34 2466 62 64 100 39% 2554 17%
73 Bruja_19 2464 61 62 100 39% 2554 20%
74 Typhoon 3.57 2461 63 65 100 38% 2554 17%
75 Tcb0052 2459 61 63 100 38% 2554 19%
76 Leila_053h 2449 63 65 101 38% 2551 13%
77 Nejmet_307 2445 64 66 100 37% 2554 14%
78 Amy-net-087 2439 63 65 100 36% 2554 18%
79 Cheese_12 2437 62 64 100 35% 2554 20%
80 xpdnt_080716_ja 2430 63 65 100 35% 2554 15%
81 Delphil 1.9 2427 63 66 100 35% 2554 13%
82 Counter 0.8 2421 62 64 100 34% 2555 21%
83 Gaia 3.5 2414 61 64 100 33% 2555 23%
84 GreKo 5.8.5 2411 63 66 100 32% 2555 18%
85 Joker1114w 2409 62 66 100 32% 2555 18%
86 Flux 2.2 2408 62 65 100 32% 2555 23%
87 Bbchess13a 2406 66 69 100 33% 2555 6%
88 Homer_201 2403 64 67 100 31% 2555 18%
89 Dirty 0.99n 2396 64 67 100 31% 2555 17%
90 Sorgenkind 0.4 2386 64 68 100 30% 2555 14%
91 Aice 2382 66 70 100 30% 2555 9%
92 Muse0899b 2378 64 68 100 29% 2555 17%
93 NOW Jan 08 2373 65 70 100 28% 2555 13%
94 Brutus_52_win32 2352 65 70 100 26% 2555 15%
95 LambChop1099 2350 66 71 100 27% 2555 11%
96 Knightx192 2350 66 71 100 25% 2555 14%
97 ZCT 0.3.2447 2348 64 69 101 25% 2557 18%
98 Yace Paderborn 2347 70 75 100 28% 2555 3%
99 Eveann 1.63 2292 70 77 100 20% 2556 13%
100 DeepPatzer 2122 89 108 101 10% 2559 2%
101 Averno081 2088 93 117 100 9% 2558 1%