Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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Poll ended at Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:29 pm

Glaurung 2.1
26
18%
Alaric 707
2
1%
Fruit 051103
25
17%
The King 3.50 Trail Blazer
3
2%
Thinker 5.2a
15
10%
Naum 2.0
17
12%
Toga 1.4
27
19%
Spike 1.2
19
13%
Other
9
6%
 
Total votes: 143

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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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Congrats Michael,

Best,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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Hi Swami,

With this list of games maybe you can make a ranking of engines (ELO) in 1+1

We can download the games?

I am interested in know whether DanaSah and Caligula lost in time, I believe that the 2 versions have problems if they play with bitbases (5 men). I think I have solved this for the next version.

The engines used tablebases or bitbases?

Only a small bug, Alfil must have Spanish flag

Best,

Pedro
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

Post by Zach Wegner »

Damn, the end came too fast. I was planning on putting my guesses in right before it ended so I could win. :) That was what my deleted post was earlier. Next time, you should have another category to pick something besides the top X, but that's just me. Thanks for putting on the tournament though, it's pretty cool. I would also like to see a bayeselo output of the whole thing.

I can be happy with 25/101 though, not too bad at all. I've been working on the eval and the search, and I can assure you that the next version will be much stronger. The question is when it will be released. :lol:
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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Hi Pedro,

Yes, I will make the ratings output, both with Bayses elo and Elo stat.

It looks like some engines use bitbases, but most engines win with Arena adjudication settings of eval score >4. The file size for games is actually 45 mb, winrared to 15 mb. I don't know how to upload the large file sizes, email attachments only permit me only 10 mb. googlepages takes very long time to upload the file. Is there any other alternative? such as uploading websites? how do you do that?
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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Zach Wegner wrote:Damn, the end came too fast. I was planning on putting my guesses in right before it ended so I could win. :) That was what my deleted post was earlier. Next time, you should have another category to pick something besides the top X, but that's just me. Thanks for putting on the tournament though, it's pretty cool. I would also like to see a bayeselo output of the whole thing.

I can be happy with 25/101 though, not too bad at all. I've been working on the eval and the search, and I can assure you that the next version will be much stronger. The question is when it will be released. :lol:
Thanks Zach, I miss your predictions. I didn't see your deleted post, you mean you deleted it yourself? Ofcourse I was also interested in people guessing the middle order and lower order engines but it seems majority voted 'no'.

Ofcourse I will post the elo ratings output. Actually ZCT scored 25/100 (not 101).

I'm looking forward to testing out the next version once it is released :)
Tony Thomas

Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

Post by Tony Thomas »

Graham Banks wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: Graham Banks and Tony Thomas have cheated to get themselves in the top 10....
Trying to make troubles regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb

:mrgreen:
Damn - sprung! :o :lol:
I guess we dont have to race our tin cans after all. I will keep that in a glass case for future use. :lol:
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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swami wrote:Hi Pedro,

Yes, I will make the ratings output, both with Bayses elo and Elo stat.

It looks like some engines use bitbases, but most engines win with Arena adjudication settings of eval score >4. The file size for games is actually 45 mb, winrared to 15 mb. I don't know how to upload the large file sizes, email attachments only permit me only 10 mb. googlepages takes very long time to upload the file. Is there any other alternative? such as uploading websites? how do you do that?
Hi Swami,

You shouldnt send files bigger than 1 MB with email.
Upload them a fast server like rapid or Jims ones
and share the link with us. So easy as it seems.

Best,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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beachknight wrote: Hi Swami,

You shouldnt send files bigger than 1 MB with email.
Upload them a fast server like rapid or Jims ones
and share the link with us. So easy as it seems.

Best,
Yes, That's what my doubt is, Can you tell me step by step how to upload the files in host servers?
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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

Post by swami »

Ratings ELOSTAT 1.3

Start Rating: 2550.

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    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

  1 Bright-0.3a                    : 2918  107  98   100    89.5 %   2546    7.0 %
  2 The King 3.50 Trail Blazer     : 2848   87  82   100    85.0 %   2547   12.0 %
  3 TogaII14-5c                    : 2835   86  81   100    84.0 %   2547   12.0 %
  4 Spike1.2                       : 2822   75  72   100    83.0 %   2547   20.0 %
  5 TwistedLogic20080620           : 2816   76  73   100    82.5 %   2547   19.0 %
  6 Thinker 5.2b (Passive)         : 2816   74  71   100    82.5 %   2547   21.0 %
  7 Fruit-051103                   : 2793   76  73   100    80.5 %   2547   17.0 %
  8 Scorpio 2.0                    : 2767   70  67   100    78.0 %   2547   22.0 %
  9 Glaurung 2.1                   : 2762   75  72   100    77.5 %   2547   15.0 %
 10 Naum 2.0                       : 2743   69  67   100    75.5 %   2548   21.0 %
 11 Frenzee Feb 2008               : 2729   77  74   100    74.0 %   2548    6.0 %
 12 Delfi 5.3b                     : 2716   70  67   100    72.5 %   2548   17.0 %
 13 ET_Chess 13.01.08              : 2688   68  66   101    69.3 %   2546   15.8 %
 14 WildCat_8                      : 2687   67  65   100    69.0 %   2548   18.0 %
 15 Ruffian_105                    : 2679   63  62   100    68.0 %   2548   24.0 %
 16 Alaric707                      : 2678   69  68   101    68.3 %   2544   11.9 %
 17 SlowChess Blitz WV2.1          : 2675   65  63   100    67.5 %   2548   21.0 %
 18 Pharaon 3.5                    : 2660   68  66   100    65.5 %   2548   13.0 %
 19 Pro Deo 1.6                    : 2656   64  63   100    65.0 %   2548   20.0 %
 20 DanChess CCT 7                 : 2656   62  61   100    65.0 %   2548   24.0 %
 21 Cyrano 0.5                     : 2648   60  59   100    64.0 %   2549   28.0 %
 22 List512                        : 2641   62  61   100    63.0 %   2549   24.0 %
 23 Crafty 22.1                    : 2641   64  63   100    63.0 %   2549   20.0 %
 24 Trace 1.37a                    : 2637   62  61   100    62.5 %   2549   23.0 %
 25 GarboChess2.20                 : 2630   64  63   100    61.5 %   2549   19.0 %
 26 Hamsters_Extreme 0.7           : 2626   63  62   100    61.0 %   2549   20.0 %
 27 Pseudo07c                      : 2623   62  61   100    60.5 %   2549   23.0 %
 28 Movei00_8_446                  : 2623   61  60   100    60.5 %   2549   25.0 %
 29 Sloppy 0.20                    : 2623   59  58   100    60.5 %   2549   29.0 %
 30 Jonny 2.83                     : 2623   63  63   100    60.5 %   2549   19.0 %
 31 Aristarch 4.50                 : 2619   64  63   100    60.0 %   2549   18.0 %
 32 Baron 1.8.1                    : 2609   63  62   100    58.5 %   2549   19.0 %
 33 Tao 5.6                        : 2609   65  65   100    58.5 %   2549   13.0 %
 34 Zappa 1.1 MP                   : 2609   60  60   100    58.5 %   2549   25.0 %
 35 Gothmog_10b10                  : 2609   58  57   100    58.5 %   2549   31.0 %
 36 BugChess2_V1_6_2               : 2605   61  60   100    58.0 %   2549   24.0 %
 37 Colossus2007d                  : 2605   62  61   100    58.0 %   2549   22.0 %
 38 AnMon_5.60WB                   : 2602   64  63   100    57.5 %   2549   17.0 %
 39 Ufim802                        : 2598   64  63   100    57.0 %   2549   16.0 %
 40 Petir4999999                   : 2598   65  64   100    57.0 %   2549   14.0 %
 41 Booot414                       : 2588   60  60   100    55.5 %   2549   25.0 %
 42 Alfil811                       : 2588   62  61   100    55.5 %   2549   21.0 %
 43 Abrok 6.0                      : 2570   62  62   100    53.0 %   2549   20.0 %
 44 WbNimzo2000b                   : 2570   63  62   100    53.0 %   2549   18.0 %
 45 LGRevival                      : 2570   62  62   100    53.0 %   2549   20.0 %
 46 Cerebro 3.03d                  : 2567   62  62   100    52.5 %   2549   19.0 %
 47 Hermann 2.3 MP                 : 2567   62  62   100    52.5 %   2549   19.0 %
 48 Ktulu 4.2                      : 2560   63  63   100    51.5 %   2549   17.0 %
 49 Glc301.2.2                     : 2560   63  63   100    51.5 %   2549   17.0 %
 50 Arasan 10.4 MP                 : 2550   61  61   100    50.0 %   2550   22.0 %
 51 Anatoli 0.35k                  : 2550   62  62   100    50.0 %   2550   20.0 %
 52 Gromit382                      : 2550   62  62   100    50.0 %   2550   20.0 %
 53 Snitch 1.6.2                   : 2529   62  62   100    47.0 %   2550   20.0 %
 54 RomiChessP3k                   : 2525   60  60   100    46.5 %   2550   25.0 %
 55 Kiwi 0.6d                      : 2525   61  61   100    46.5 %   2550   21.0 %
 56 Matacz_1.3_HT37                : 2525   63  64   100    46.5 %   2550   15.0 %
 57 Quark 2.35                     : 2522   64  64   100    46.0 %   2550   14.0 %
 58 Caligula03b                    : 2515   63  64   100    45.0 %   2550   16.0 %
 59 KnightDreamer 3.2              : 2515   61  61   100    45.0 %   2550   22.0 %
 60 King of Kings 2.56             : 2512   64  64   100    44.5 %   2550   15.0 %
 61 WChessUCI                      : 2508   60  60   100    44.0 %   2550   24.0 %
 62 Danasah370Wb                   : 2498   59  59   100    42.5 %   2550   27.0 %
 63 Phalanx22                      : 2490   62  63   100    41.5 %   2550   19.0 %
 64 Pepito 1.59                    : 2487   64  64   100    41.0 %   2550   16.0 %
 65 Horizon_4_4                    : 2487   64  64   100    41.0 %   2550   16.0 %
 66 Diablo051                      : 2483   62  63   100    40.5 %   2550   19.0 %
 67 SpiderChess070603              : 2483   60  61   100    40.5 %   2550   25.0 %
 68 Amyan 1.597                    : 2480   65  65   100    40.0 %   2550   14.0 %
 69 Comet_B68                      : 2480   64  65   100    40.0 %   2550   16.0 %
 70 Queen 403                      : 2473   61  62   100    39.0 %   2550   22.0 %
 71 Bruja_19                       : 2473   62  63   100    39.0 %   2550   20.0 %
 72 Arion 1.7                      : 2470   62  63   101    39.6 %   2544   19.8 %
 73 Terra34                        : 2469   64  65   100    38.5 %   2550   17.0 %
 74 Tcb0052                        : 2462   63  64   100    37.5 %   2550   19.0 %
 75 Typhoon 3.57                   : 2462   64  65   100    37.5 %   2550   17.0 %
 76 Leila_053h                     : 2459   65  66   101    38.1 %   2544   12.9 %
 77 Nejmet_307                     : 2458   65  66   100    37.0 %   2550   14.0 %
 78 Amy-net-087                    : 2451   64  65   100    36.0 %   2551   18.0 %
 79 Cheese_12                      : 2443   63  64   100    35.0 %   2551   20.0 %
 80 xpdnt_080716_ja                : 2439   65  67   100    34.5 %   2551   15.0 %
 81 Delphil 1.9                    : 2439   66  68   100    34.5 %   2551   13.0 %
 82 Counter 0.8                    : 2432   63  64   100    33.5 %   2551   21.0 %
 83 Bbchess13a                     : 2428   70  72   100    33.0 %   2551    6.0 %
 84 Gaia 3.5                       : 2424   62  64   100    32.5 %   2551   23.0 %
 85 Joker1114w                     : 2420   65  67   100    32.0 %   2551   18.0 %
 86 GreKo 5.8.5                    : 2420   65  67   100    32.0 %   2551   18.0 %
 87 Flux 2.2                       : 2416   63  64   100    31.5 %   2551   23.0 %
 88 Homer_201                      : 2412   65  67   100    31.0 %   2551   18.0 %
 89 Dirty 0.99n                    : 2408   66  68   100    30.5 %   2551   17.0 %
 90 Sorgenkind 0.4                 : 2404   68  70   100    30.0 %   2551   14.0 %
 91 Aice                           : 2400   70  73   100    29.5 %   2551    9.0 %
 92 Muse0899b                      : 2391   67  69   100    28.5 %   2551   17.0 %
 93 NOW Jan 08                     : 2383   69  72   100    27.5 %   2551   13.0 %
 94 Yace Paderborn                 : 2383   74  78   100    27.5 %   2551    3.0 %
 95 LambChop1099                   : 2374   71  74   100    26.5 %   2551   11.0 %
 96 Brutus_52_win32                : 2365   70  72   100    25.5 %   2551   15.0 %
 97 Knightx192                     : 2361   71  73   100    25.0 %   2551   14.0 %
 98 ZCT 0.3.2447                   : 2360   68  70   101    24.8 %   2553   17.8 %
 99 Eveann 1.63                    : 2306   76  80   100    19.5 %   2552   13.0 %
100 DeepPatzer                     : 2171  107 121   101     9.9 %   2555    2.0 %
101 Averno081                      : 2141  116 134   100     8.5 %   2554    1.0 %

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Re: Grand Blitz Tournament - Predict the Top 6 Engines!

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BayesELO Ratings

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Rank Name                         Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Bright-0.3a                 2950   97   82   100   90%  2549    7% 
   2 The King 3.50 Trail Blazer  2874   83   73   100   85%  2550   12% 
   3 TogaII14-5c                 2862   82   73   100   84%  2550   12% 
   4 TwistedLogic20080620        2830   75   68   100   83%  2550   19% 
   5 Spike1.2                    2830   75   68   100   83%  2550   20% 
   6 Thinker 5.2b (Passive)      2822   74   67   100   83%  2551   21% 
   7 Fruit-051103                2812   74   68   100   81%  2551   17% 
   8 Glaurung 2.1                2787   72   66   100   78%  2551   15% 
   9 Scorpio 2.0                 2779   70   65   100   78%  2551   22% 
  10 Frenzee Feb 2008            2768   74   68   100   74%  2551    6% 
  11 Naum 2.0                    2764   69   64   100   76%  2551   21% 
  12 Delfi 5.3b                  2735   67   63   100   73%  2551   17% 
  13 Alaric707                   2709   67   64   101   68%  2547   12% 
  14 ET_Chess 13.01.08           2701   67   63   101   69%  2550   16% 
  15 Ruffian_105                 2700   64   61   100   68%  2552   24% 
  16 WildCat_8                   2699   66   63   100   69%  2552   18% 
  17 SlowChess Blitz WV2.1       2695   65   62   100   68%  2552   21% 
  18 Pharaon 3.5                 2683   66   63   100   66%  2552   13% 
  19 Pro Deo 1.6                 2674   65   62   100   65%  2552   20% 
  20 DanChess CCT 7              2667   63   61   100   65%  2552   24% 
  21 Crafty 22.1                 2662   63   61   100   63%  2552   20% 
  22 Cyrano 0.5                  2662   62   60   100   64%  2552   28% 
  23 List512                     2660   62   61   100   63%  2552   24% 
  24 Trace 1.37a                 2653   62   60   100   63%  2552   23% 
  25 GarboChess2.20              2642   63   61   100   62%  2552   19% 
  26 Pseudo07c                   2640   62   61   100   61%  2552   23% 
  27 Jonny 2.83                  2638   63   62   100   61%  2552   19% 
  28 Hamsters_Extreme 0.7        2637   63   61   100   61%  2552   20% 
  29 Sloppy 0.20                 2635   61   59   100   61%  2552   29% 
  30 Movei00_8_446               2633   61   60   100   61%  2552   25% 
  31 Aristarch 4.50              2633   64   62   100   60%  2552   18% 
  32 Gothmog_10b10               2627   60   59   100   59%  2552   31% 
  33 Tao 5.6                     2626   63   62   100   59%  2552   13% 
  34 Baron 1.8.1                 2623   63   62   100   59%  2552   19% 
  35 AnMon_5.60WB                2621   63   62   100   58%  2553   17% 
  36 Zappa 1.1 MP                2618   61   60   100   59%  2553   25% 
  37 BugChess2_V1_6_2            2617   61   60   100   58%  2553   24% 
  38 Colossus2007d               2616   62   61   100   58%  2553   22% 
  39 Petir4999999                2610   64   62   100   57%  2553   14% 
  40 Ufim802                     2608   63   62   100   57%  2553   16% 
  41 Alfil811                    2601   62   61   100   56%  2553   21% 
  42 Booot414                    2598   61   60   100   56%  2553   25% 
  43 Cerebro 3.03d               2577   61   61   100   53%  2553   19% 
  44 Abrok 6.0                   2577   61   61   100   53%  2553   20% 
  45 WbNimzo2000b                2575   62   62   100   53%  2553   18% 
  46 Hermann 2.3 MP              2574   61   61   100   53%  2553   19% 
  47 Ktulu 4.2                   2571   63   62   100   52%  2553   17% 
  48 LGRevival                   2569   62   61   100   53%  2553   20% 
  49 Glc301.2.2                  2564   62   62   100   52%  2553   17% 
  50 Anatoli 0.35k               2558   62   62   100   50%  2553   20% 
  51 Arasan 10.4 MP              2554   60   60   100   50%  2553   22% 
  52 Gromit382                   2552   62   62   100   50%  2553   20% 
  53 Kiwi 0.6d                   2532   61   61   100   47%  2553   21% 
  54 Matacz_1.3_HT37             2527   63   63   100   47%  2553   15% 
  55 RomiChessP3k                2523   60   61   100   47%  2553   25% 
  56 Snitch 1.6.2                2523   61   61   100   47%  2553   20% 
  57 Quark 2.35                  2523   63   63   100   46%  2553   14% 
  58 KnightDreamer 3.2           2517   61   62   100   45%  2554   22% 
  59 Caligula03b                 2512   62   62   100   45%  2554   16% 
  60 WChessUCI                   2510   60   61   100   44%  2554   24% 
  61 King of Kings 2.56          2509   62   63   100   45%  2554   15% 
  62 Danasah370Wb                2500   59   60   100   43%  2554   27% 
  63 SpiderChess070603           2488   60   61   100   41%  2554   25% 
  64 Phalanx22                   2488   62   63   100   42%  2554   19% 
  65 Horizon_4_4                 2483   62   63   100   41%  2554   16% 
  66 Pepito 1.59                 2481   62   63   100   41%  2554   16% 
  67 Comet_B68                   2481   62   64   100   40%  2554   16% 
  68 Diablo051                   2479   61   63   100   41%  2554   19% 
  69 Queen 403                   2476   61   63   100   39%  2554   22% 
  70 Amyan 1.597                 2475   62   64   100   40%  2554   14% 
  71 Arion 1.7                   2467   61   62   101   40%  2551   20% 
  72 Terra34                     2466   62   64   100   39%  2554   17% 
  73 Bruja_19                    2464   61   62   100   39%  2554   20% 
  74 Typhoon 3.57                2461   63   65   100   38%  2554   17% 
  75 Tcb0052                     2459   61   63   100   38%  2554   19% 
  76 Leila_053h                  2449   63   65   101   38%  2551   13% 
  77 Nejmet_307                  2445   64   66   100   37%  2554   14% 
  78 Amy-net-087                 2439   63   65   100   36%  2554   18% 
  79 Cheese_12                   2437   62   64   100   35%  2554   20% 
  80 xpdnt_080716_ja             2430   63   65   100   35%  2554   15% 
  81 Delphil 1.9                 2427   63   66   100   35%  2554   13% 
  82 Counter 0.8                 2421   62   64   100   34%  2555   21% 
  83 Gaia 3.5                    2414   61   64   100   33%  2555   23% 
  84 GreKo 5.8.5                 2411   63   66   100   32%  2555   18% 
  85 Joker1114w                  2409   62   66   100   32%  2555   18% 
  86 Flux 2.2                    2408   62   65   100   32%  2555   23% 
  87 Bbchess13a                  2406   66   69   100   33%  2555    6% 
  88 Homer_201                   2403   64   67   100   31%  2555   18% 
  89 Dirty 0.99n                 2396   64   67   100   31%  2555   17% 
  90 Sorgenkind 0.4              2386   64   68   100   30%  2555   14% 
  91 Aice                        2382   66   70   100   30%  2555    9% 
  92 Muse0899b                   2378   64   68   100   29%  2555   17% 
  93 NOW Jan 08                  2373   65   70   100   28%  2555   13% 
  94 Brutus_52_win32             2352   65   70   100   26%  2555   15% 
  95 LambChop1099                2350   66   71   100   27%  2555   11% 
  96 Knightx192                  2350   66   71   100   25%  2555   14% 
  97 ZCT 0.3.2447                2348   64   69   101   25%  2557   18% 
  98 Yace Paderborn              2347   70   75   100   28%  2555    3% 
  99 Eveann 1.63                 2292   70   77   100   20%  2556   13% 
 100 DeepPatzer                  2122   89  108   101   10%  2559    2% 
 101 Averno081                   2088   93  117   100    9%  2558    1%