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JuLieN wrote:It appears that the new definition of a blunder is "move that causes a severe score drop in engine analysis (more than 1 point drop)"rlsuth wrote:Terry McCracken wrote: Anand blundered! 41. Rxg7+! wins easily.
I'm probably being pedantic here, but I've always thought of a blunder as being a losing move and that this is just an inaccuracy.
I agree that engines are better than humans but white is always winning here and it is possible that anand could win against rybka here with white.swami wrote:Anil wrote:Is Anand doing this deliberately ... to give Kramnik some hope?
Playing fxg7 instead of Rxg7.
I am sure after this game, Anand will re-work on his chess tactics.
.... Kg8 played.
Looks like both these Super-Grandmasters are making big big blunders almost every single move according to engines...
Terry, so you still think GM's are better in timed games?
If Anand keeps finding 2nd - 3rd best candidate moves every single turn I think it may even backfire and end in draw who knows...Uri Blass wrote:I agree that engines are better than humans but white is always winning here and it is possible that anand could win against rybka here with white.swami wrote:Anil wrote:Is Anand doing this deliberately ... to give Kramnik some hope?
Playing fxg7 instead of Rxg7.
I am sure after this game, Anand will re-work on his chess tactics.
.... Kg8 played.
Looks like both these Super-Grandmasters are making big big blunders almost every single move according to engines...
Terry, so you still think GM's are better in timed games?
If you have a winning position then it is important to find moves that are good enough to win and it is not important to find the best move.
Uri
In overall play while not under stress, yes! Kramnik played an unusually bad game and Anand for some reason didn't give his last move enough thought or looked at something else that is winning but not the most efficient way of course.swami wrote:Anil wrote:Is Anand doing this deliberately ... to give Kramnik some hope?
Playing fxg7 instead of Rxg7.
I am sure after this game, Anand will re-work on his chess tactics.
.... Kg8 played.
Looks like both these Super-Grandmasters are making big big blunders almost every single move according to engines...
Terry, so you still think GM's are better in timed games?
Uri Blass wrote:
If you have a winning position then it is important to find moves that are good enough to win and it is not important to find the best move.
Uri
Anand,V - Kramnik,V, WCC 2008 Bonn 2008Anil wrote:Ted, any info on whats going on? Some snaps too, if you feel generous (as always).
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43.e6 Ne5 44.Rd6 Nf3+ 45.Kd1 Nxd2 46.Rxd2 Kxg7 47.Nd6 Kf6 48.Nxc8 Nxc8 49.Re2 Ke7 50.Kd2 Nd6 51.Kd3 Nb5 52.Re4 Nxa3 53.Rxa4
+- (4.25) Depth: 17/49 00:00:09 62943kN
43.e6 Ne5 44.Rd6 Nf3+ 45.Kd1 Nxd2 46.Nxd2 Na8 47.Ne4 Rc4 48.Ng3 Rc5 49.Rd8+ Kxg7 50.Rxa8 Rd5+ 51.Ke2 Kf6 52.Rxa4 Kxe6 53.Ke3 Rd1 54.h4
+- (4.45) Depth: 18/65 00:00:36 239mN
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47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc5 53.Qxf3
+- (5.35) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 53kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc5 53.Qc3+ Kd5 54.Qxf3+ Ke5
+- (5.44) Depth: 8/19 00:00:00 53kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc5 53.Qc3+ Kd5 54.Qxf3+ Ke5
+- (5.44) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 53kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc5 53.Qc3+ Kd6 54.Qxf3 Rb3 55.Qf4+ Kd5 56.Qxa4 Rxh3
+- (5.45) Depth: 10/31 00:00:00 301kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc7 53.Qxf3 Rb3 54.Qf4+ Kd8 55.Qxa4 Rxh3
+- (5.51) Depth: 11/34 00:00:00 2617kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Nf3+ 49.Kd1 Rb3 50.Bd4+ Kd6 51.Bxb6 Rxb6 52.Qd3+ Kc5 53.Qxf3 Rd6+ 54.Ke2 Rd4 55.Qf5+ Kc4 56.Qe6+ Kc3 57.Qc6+ Kb2
+- (5.61) Depth: 12/35 00:00:01 10144kN
47...Ke7 48.Qxh7 Re3+ 49.Kf2 Rf3+ 50.Kg2 Rf7 51.Qh4+ Ke6 52.Qh6+ Kd5 53.Bxe5 Nc4 54.Bc3 Rf5 55.Qg6 Ne3+ 56.Kg3
+- (5.80) Depth: 13/44 00:00:05 34660kN
