Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

[Damir]

I hadn't intended to, but if I do, it would under the policy that no links to the clone will be allowed and its name will be edited out (including in all existing posts).

Ah, have you discovered a new clone, Graham? Can we know the details?

no reason to, there are plenty of Rybka clowns in here...

[Rolf]

The bottom line remains, and this is common sense which a two year old child knows; you can't accuse someone and refuse to provide proof.

Of course I can. In sports, in politics, in wars, everywhere, you cant demonstrate all the proof you have. Of course that is something a kid isnt ready to digest. That's why we have our dissent. Look, you make a clown out of yoursel if you claim that I needed hokospokus to beat you in a debate. Ridiculous how now the whining begins after it failed to legalize the clones. Look, I would never accuse you of being dishonest. No, but you miss the main elements in the debate. And nevertheless you think you have the joker. That's funny but it's not really important.

As for the points you made I refuse every one of them. Untrue and fantasy. Otherwise show exactly with quotes what you mean but not on such a fantasy level.

I had absolutely no reason to cheat you because you already cheated yourself hard enough. I'm not even interested in you. Look, if I comment w/o qoutes it doesnt mean that I would want to talk with the one. It's just a bit of text and not the wonderful personality in its whole that I am referring to. Dont try to elevate a psychologist that he should respect his clients. This is a seperate area. Here it's about just talks about obsessions, hate and nonsense. Ok, Vas would see it different. But that is something you dont have to care about... As long as you are not the scapegoat it's fun for you.

[kingliveson]

I lived in Texas many years ago, and we had a saying, "all hat no cattle."

[Rolf]

Even if you believed these well respected people (add in Don Dailey plus a few other programmers) who've stated that Robbo has come from Rybka code, would you still be supporting it or using it?

You appear to suffer from an affliction that could be most charitably described as inconsistent expectation syndrome. Your phrase "well respected" implies that you think thst other people should believe Don Dailey when he says that Robbolito is a clone of Rybka yet, at the same time, you refuse to believe Professor Hyatt and Zach when they say that Rybka 1 is a clone of Fruit.Tell me Graham, isn't Professor Hyatt "well respected"? When your brother invited Hyatt to put his neck on the line and state explicitly that Rajlich was a liar, Hyatt obliged. What has he done that has caused you to lose respect in his integrity and professionalism?

I noticed that in another of your posts, which I quote below, you are also calling Vas Rajlich a liar. It is not only your expectations that are inconsistent, it is also your behaviour. Do you have evidence to back up your claim that Rajlich is a liar?

It's not the Rybka that we all know, but it is Rybka. It is not Rybka 3, despite what Vas said.

Lets see how long you will accept your own writings. Last time I tried to comment you had withdrawn the crap. So just in case.
Neither you nor Rolf has the wherewithal to defend Vas. As a consequence your inconsistent and inappropriate comments do him immeasurable damage. With “friends” like you, he doesn’t need enemies.

[Rolf]

Ok, now I can comment on your text. It's really easy to see where you failed this time.

Nobody here ever said that Prof Bob isnt respected. Well respected. But as a matter of fact also Bob has his blackouts. He is a human being.

Here in your case Bob cannot be taken for serious because he stated it all in detail like always what happened. He didnt research it himself. No time, no incentive. Then people showed him examples. And all he said was "yes, this looks like". But that isnt why we need professors and researchers. If it were just that easy. Bob made a typical mistake for a beancounter. He forgot about the "whole" the complete picture. Because what he saw fitted into his expectations.

As I said Bob's dilemma is that he is always wanted as decisive trademark jury, but if he didnt research at all, how could he judge at all?

So, is Bob highly respected. YES.

But is Bob always correct without the least failure? no, because he's just a human like you and me.

Does the respect for him decrease? Nope.

Look, he called me monkey, idiot and what else, but I still love him. And I were sad if he now suddenly would get shattered by his own nature. We all have that old crocodile brain part at times.

[Rolf]

I lived in Texas many years ago, and we had a saying, "all hat no cattle."

Tell me what it means as I'm not a cowboy.

[K I Hyams]

Ok, now I can comment on your text. It's really easy to see where you failed this time.

Nobody here ever said that Prof Bob isnt respected. Well respected. But as a matter of fact also Bob has his blackouts. He is a human being.

Here in your case Bob cannot be taken for serious because he stated it all in detail like always what happened. He didnt research it himself. No time, no incentive. Then people showed him examples. And all he said was "yes, this looks like". But that isnt why we need professors and researchers. If it were just that easy. Bob made a typical mistake for a beancounter. He forgot about the "whole" the complete picture. Because what he saw fitted into his expectations.

As I said Bob's dilemma is that he is always wanted as decisive trademark jury, but if he didnt research at all, how could he judge at all?

So, is Bob highly respected. YES.

But is Bob always correct without the least failure? no, because he's just a human like you and me.

Does the respect for him decrease? Nope.

Look, he called me monkey, idiot and what else, but I still love him. And I were sad if he now suddenly would get shattered by his own nature. We all have that old crocodile brain part at times.

You make an art-form out of missing the point.

[Rolf]

What if... the authors of Ippolit/Robbolito/Iggorit have no interest in competing? If, for whatever reasons, they want to ruin Rybka's #1 status, maybe just because it's a challenge, that's actually their business, not yours. "Propoganda", "drama", "falsehood", "illegal"? Do you read what you write? The moment that there's even ONE piece of actual evidence (not Graham's gut feelings, Vas's business-motivated claims or your I'm-not-really-sure-what-to-call-it) that I/R/I is stolen code, I'll recant, delete and so on. All else is rationalization (on all sides). Prove it or live with it, please. Frohes neues.

Jeremy

Thanks for the nice post. I guess you have been socialised in the USA. For you the evidence is important, correct? Who fabricated the evidence is no longer your question. Important that there is evidence. But please, will you let yourself be betrayed again and always again because a government does this all the time when wars come nearer.

Look, Vas already stated it long ago that he wouldnt care about such stuff that does not lay in his realm. All smart guys react this way. So far it goes after your motto. But what people like me ask all of you with that spirit: is there not the least shame in you? Is that what you would call moral? Or did I miss a new pragmatic theory? The validitity of the evidence for one or two days? What would Obama say?

[mariaclara]

Hey

sharp

You make an art-form out of missing the point.

[Rolf]

I always saw you in that role of empty computerchess but still eloquent writer in CTF. Because what have you to say here in computerchess? What have I to say? So, somehow we share the same fate. But I do still play chess. BTW happy new year.