I'm disappointed with Stockfish dev.

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syzygy
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Re: I'm disappointed with Stockfish dev.

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DrEinstein wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:23 pm
syzygy wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:09 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:31 pm
syzygy wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:25 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:47 pm Now I'm completely confused. The SFdevs first deleted contempt, apparently because it doesn't work well (or at all?) with NNUEs, then they introduced optimism:

https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... d32bb351c3

which seems pretty easy to be tweaked with an uci-parameter, let's say from -50 to 50, and now the two posts from Sopel and Alexchess... :?: :idea:
If it improves play against itself, why make it a parameter?
I don't want to make optimism a parameter, I only was thinking, obviously too loud, about adjusting snicolet's optimism somehow and very carefully by an uci-parameter, in such a way, that SF's playing strength against weaker opponents is improved. I assume that this should be possible.
That is a big assumption for which there is no evidence.
Big assumption... LOL
You got your serious answer. No need to troll.
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Re: I'm disappointed with Stockfish dev.

Post by DrEinstein »

syzygy wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:13 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:23 pm
syzygy wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:09 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:31 pm
syzygy wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:25 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:47 pm Now I'm completely confused. The SFdevs first deleted contempt, apparently because it doesn't work well (or at all?) with NNUEs, then they introduced optimism:

https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... d32bb351c3

which seems pretty easy to be tweaked with an uci-parameter, let's say from -50 to 50, and now the two posts from Sopel and Alexchess... :?: :idea:
If it improves play against itself, why make it a parameter?
I don't want to make optimism a parameter, I only was thinking, obviously too loud, about adjusting snicolet's optimism somehow and very carefully by an uci-parameter, in such a way, that SF's playing strength against weaker opponents is improved. I assume that this should be possible.
That is a big assumption for which there is no evidence.
Big assumption... LOL
You got your serious answer. No need to troll.
You are certainly right but communicating with ChatGPT is fascinating, if one asks him the right questions.