Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don'r bother Jeremy,in a couple of months there will be major changes in the computer chess world and the consequences of these changes will wipe out bugs like Rolf for good....
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As long as Vas does not promise the bug fix :?
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Knock it off guys, please. This is going nowhere. Moderation request pending.

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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Sure, 27-13 for Rybka.
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Harvey Williamson wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don'r bother Jeremy,in a couple of months there will be major changes in the computer chess world and the consequences of these changes will wipe out bugs like Rolf for good....
Dr.D
As long as Vas does not promise the bug fix :?
When you consider lying as a stock in trade in your line of work,your're doomed before you know it....it's just that is seems that our friend in question here,the author of Rybka,doesn't have the ability to recognize this simple truth....
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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don'r bother Jeremy,in a couple of months there will be major changes in the computer chess world and the consequences of these changes will wipe out bugs like Rolf for good....
Dr.D
As long as Vas does not promise the bug fix :?
To each his own. As far as I'm concerned, a bug is something that prevents it from fulfilling its intended purpose(s). I.e. it crashes if it uses 1GB hash, or it only uses one core when it should be using two.

If the measure of a bug is it misevaluates a given position, then I am afraid every engine on the planet is guilty.
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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
sockmonkey wrote: your accusation of "hate" is so off the mark that it merits a special mention. You are diverting the argument from a matter of facts and events into some emotional world that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
You're not supporting Vas -- you're supporting your own biases and prejudices (which is natural, of course), and there's no reason to expect that I (or anyone else) should do so, as well.

Jeremy
Could not agree more. Rolf also accused me of hating Vas. I think Rolf does far more damage than good in this debate.
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Albert Silver wrote:
To each his own. As far as I'm concerned, a bug is something that prevents it from fulfilling its intended purpose(s). I.e. it crashes if it uses 1GB hash, or it only uses one core when it should be using two.

If the measure of a bug is it misevaluates a given position, then I am afraid every engine on the planet is guilty.
Refusal to underpromote to bishop and refusal to provide knowledge for KBP vs K is not a misevaluation.

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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
To each his own. As far as I'm concerned, a bug is something that prevents it from fulfilling its intended purpose(s). I.e. it crashes if it uses 1GB hash, or it only uses one core when it should be using two.

If the measure of a bug is it misevaluates a given position, then I am afraid every engine on the planet is guilty.
Refusal to underpromote to bishop and refusal to provide knowledge for KBP vs K is not a misevaluation.

Matthias.
What is it then? You are saying the code is there but a bug prevents it from working?
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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Albert Silver wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Refusal to underpromote to bishop and refusal to provide knowledge for KBP vs K is not a misevaluation.

Matthias.
What is it then? You are saying the code is there but a bug prevents it from working?

The bug is that such basic code is missing :( .
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Re: Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Refusal to underpromote to bishop and refusal to provide knowledge for KBP vs K is not a misevaluation.

Matthias.
What is it then? You are saying the code is there but a bug prevents it from working?

The bug is that such basic code is missing :( .
That's not a bug. If missing information is a bug, then I can only reiterate: all engines are guilty.
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