FIDE World Chess Championship thread

[JuLieN]

Carlsen played h4:
[d]8/P6R/8/2k5/2p4P/2K5/r7/8 b - - 0 15

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+82.97/28 15...Kd5 16.h5 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra6 18.Rd7+ Ke6 19.Rg7 c3+ 20.Kxc3 Kd5 21.h6 Rc6+ 22.Kd3 Rc8 23.h7 Ra8 24.Rg8 Rxa7 25.h8=Q
+83.08/28 15...Ra3+ 16.Kb2 Ra4 17.Rg7 Kd4 18.Rd7+ Ke3 19.h5 c3+ 20.Kxc3 Ra6 21.h6 Rc6+ 22.Kb4 Rc8 23.h7 Ra8
+86.95/28 15...Kb6 16.Rg7 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra4 18.h5 c3+ 19.Kxc3 Ra1 20.Kb3 Ra5 21.h6 Rb5+ 22.Kc4 Rc5+ 23.Kd4 Rc8 24.h7 Rd8+ 25.Kc3 Rc8+ 26.Kb3 Rf8 27.Rg8 Rf3+ 28.Kc2 Rf2+ 29.Kd3 Rf3+ 30.Ke4 Rh3 31.h8=Q Rxh8 32.a8=N+ Kb5 33.Rxh8 Kc6 34.Rg8 Kd6 35.Rh8 Ke6
+109.83/28 15...Kd6 16.h5 Ra3+ 17.Kxc4 Ke6 18.h6 Ra1 19.Rg7 Rc1+ 20.Kb3 Rc8 21.h7 Ra8 22.Kb4 Rh8 23.Rg8 Rxh7 24.a8=Q Rh4+ 25.Kc5 Rh5+ 26.Kb6 Rh4 27.Qc6+ Ke5 28.Rg5+ Kf4 29.Qf6+ Ke4 30.Qe5+ Kd3 31.Rg3+ Kc2 32.Qe2+ Kc1 33.Rc3+
+95.71/27 15...Ra4 16.h5 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra5 18.h6 c3+ 19.Kc2 Ra2+ 20.Kxc3 Ra3+ 21.Kb2 Ra5 22.Rb7 Kc6 23.Rg7 Kb6 24.h7 Rb5+ 25.Ka2 Ra5+ 26.Kb3 Rb5+ 27.Kc4 Rc5+ 28.Kd4 Rc8 29.Rg8 Kxa7 30.Rxc8 Kb6 31.h8=Q Kb5 32.Qh5+ Ka6 33.Qh4
+95.71/27 15...Ra1 16.h5 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra5 18.h6 c3+ 19.Kc2 Ra2+ 20.Kxc3 Ra3+ 21.Kb2 Ra5 22.Rb7 Kc6 23.Rg7 Kb6 24.h7 Rb5+ 25.Ka2 Ra5+ 26.Kb3 Rb5+ 27.Kc4 Rc5+ 28.Kd4 Rc8 29.Rg8 Kxa7 30.Rxc8 Kb6 31.h8=Q Kb5 32.Qh5+ Ka6 33.Qh4 Kb5 34.Kd5 Kb6 35.Qf6+ Kb5 36.Rb8+ Ka4 37.Qa1#
+108.39/27 15...Kc6 16.Rg7 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra5 18.h5 Kd6 19.h6 c3+ 20.Kc2 Ra2+ 21.Kxc3 Ra3+ 22.Kc4 Ra4+ 23.Kb3 Ra5 24.h7 Rb5+ 25.Kc3 Rc5+ 26.Kb4 Rc8 27.Rg8 Rc1 28.Rg6+ Ke7 29.h8=Q Rb1+ 30.Ka3 Ra1+ 31.Qxa1
+118.01/27 15...Kb5 16.h5 Ra3+ 17.Kb2 Ra6 18.h6 c3+ 19.Kc2 Ra2+ 20.Kxc3 Ra3+ 21.Kb2 Ra5 22.Rg7 Kb6 23.h7 Rb5+ 24.Ka2 Ra5+ 25.Kb3 Rb5+ 26.Kc4 Rc5+ 27.Kd4 Rc8 28.Rg8 Rc1 29.a8=Q Rd1+ 30.Kc4 Rc1+ 31.Kb3 Rb1+ 32.Kc2 Rd1 33.Kxd1 Kb5 34.h8=Q
#19/27 15...Ra6 16.Rh5+ Kb6 17.Rh6+ Kxa7 18.Rxa6+ Kxa6 19.h5 Kb5 20.h6 Kc5 21.h7 Kd5 22.h8=Q Ke4 23.Kxc4 Kf4 24.Qg7 Kf5 25.Kd5 Kf4 26.Qe5+
#10/27 15...Rxa7 16.Rxa7 Kb6 17.Rg7 Kc5 18.h5 Kd5 19.h6 Ke4 20.h7 Ke5 21.h8=Q Kf5 22.Rf7+ Ke6 23.Rf6+ Ke5 24.Kxc4 Ke4 25.Qe8#

[JuLieN]

Anand just resigned !!!! First decisive game in the match !!!!

[JuLieN]

Here's the game :
[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.15"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2870"]
[BlackElo "2775"]
[PlyCount "102"]
[EventDate "2013.??.??"]
[EventCountry "IND"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1.c4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 c6 4.e4 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 c5 7.a3 Ba5 8.Nf3 Nf6 9.Be3 Nc6 10.Qd3 cxd4 11.Nxd4 Ng4 12.O-O-O Nxe3 13.fxe3 Bc7 14.Nxc6 bxc6 15.Qxd8+ Bxd8 16.Be2 Ke7 17.Bf3 Bd7 18.Ne4 Bb6 19.c5 f5 20.cxb6 fxe4 21.b7 Rab8 22.Bxe4 Rxb7 23.Rhf1 Rb5 24.Rf4 g5 25.Rf3 h5 26.Rdf1 Be8 27.Bc2 Rc5 28.Rf6 h4 29.e4 a5 30.Kd2 Rb5 31.b3 Bh5 32.Kc3 Rc5+ 33.Kb2 Rd8 34.R1f2 Rd4 35.Rh6 Bd1 36.Bb1 Rb5 37.Kc3 c5 38.Rb2 e5 39.Rg6 a4 40.Rxg5 Rxb3+ 41.Rxb3 Bxb3 42.Rxe5+ Kd6 43.Rh5 Rd1 44.e5+ Kd5 45.Bh7 Rc1+ 46.Kb2 Rg1 47.Bg8+ Kc6 48.Rh6+ Kd7 49.Bxb3 axb3 50.Kxb3 Rxg2 51.Rxh4 Ke6 52.a4 Kxe5 53.a5 Kd6 54.Rh7 Kd5 55.a6 c4+ 56.Kc3 Ra2 57.a7 Kc5 58.h4 1-0[/pgn]
According to SF, the ending should have been a draw, but Carlsen played an impressive streak of 15 best moves in a row, while Anand played a few inaccuracies building into a big advantage for white. Carlsen is an impressive ending player !

[Ozymandias]

Oh well I feel sorry for the best human players, other sports do not have machines exposing their true level of play.

They get fame and money. I'm sure they don't care much about the tiny portion of chess fans who realize how bad they are compared to machines. Specially when FIDE still choses commentators who don't.

[IGarcia]

Oh well I feel sorry for the best human players, other sports do not have machines exposing their true level of play.

They get fame and money. I'm sure they don't care much about the tiny portion of chess fans who realize how bad they are compared to machines. Specially when FIDE still choses commentators who don't.

They do play as 3000, but cant keep the pace. Here was Anand "blunder?" with Rc1+ instead of Ra1. I ask myself how many humans, without computers, realized the game was lost after Rc1+?

Great game for both. I do liked more game 4, full of tactical tricks.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

In hindsight I see that calling you a patzer was a bit harsh, and I apologize for that. Still, even if you happened to beat me in a game how would this make your idea any better?

"he most likely is not a gamer and most likely a soft program user"

What does gamer mean in this case? A serious engine-assisted correspondence chess player? And what does a soft program user mean? A weak program user? A weak user who only uses programs? A weak user because he only uses computer-programs? The terms are a bit ambiguous.

Now about the game if you still wish to play it.

"Now your without engines comment.
This is a computer chess forum correct?
I know there are OTB players here for different reasons. '
I am here as a gamer and hardware freak. "

This means that you'd rather play with engines correct? For me it's the opposite as quite frankly I am terrible at engine-assisted games as I haven't still learned how to give suggestions to the engines effectively and therefore most of the time I am some sort of a mailman, as much as it pains me to admit.

Sorry for the rather late response....

The answer would be all of the above....

And a little piece of advice:

Don't get yourself engaged in issues you know very little about compared to the people you are throwing stones at....
Dr.D

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Here's the game :
[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.15"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2870"]
[BlackElo "2775"]
[PlyCount "102"]
[EventDate "2013.??.??"]
[EventCountry "IND"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1.c4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 c6 4.e4 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 c5 7.a3 Ba5 8.Nf3 Nf6 9.Be3 Nc6 10.Qd3 cxd4 11.Nxd4 Ng4 12.O-O-O Nxe3 13.fxe3 Bc7 14.Nxc6 bxc6 15.Qxd8+ Bxd8 16.Be2 Ke7 17.Bf3 Bd7 18.Ne4 Bb6 19.c5 f5 20.cxb6 fxe4 21.b7 Rab8 22.Bxe4 Rxb7 23.Rhf1 Rb5 24.Rf4 g5 25.Rf3 h5 26.Rdf1 Be8 27.Bc2 Rc5 28.Rf6 h4 29.e4 a5 30.Kd2 Rb5 31.b3 Bh5 32.Kc3 Rc5+ 33.Kb2 Rd8 34.R1f2 Rd4 35.Rh6 Bd1 36.Bb1 Rb5 37.Kc3 c5 38.Rb2 e5 39.Rg6 a4 40.Rxg5 Rxb3+ 41.Rxb3 Bxb3 42.Rxe5+ Kd6 43.Rh5 Rd1 44.e5+ Kd5 45.Bh7 Rc1+ 46.Kb2 Rg1 47.Bg8+ Kc6 48.Rh6+ Kd7 49.Bxb3 axb3 50.Kxb3 Rxg2 51.Rxh4 Ke6 52.a4 Kxe5 53.a5 Kd6 54.Rh7 Kd5 55.a6 c4+ 56.Kc3 Ra2 57.a7 Kc5 58.h4 1-0[/pgn]
According to SF, the ending should have been a draw, but Carlsen played an impressive streak of 15 best moves in a row, while Anand played a few inaccuracies building into a big advantage for white. Carlsen is an impressive ending player !

This game was won by the player who has the better endgame technique....

If I was walking in Anand's shoes,I will resign on the 48th move....

Anyways it's good to see the first full point in this match regards,
Dr.D

[kgburcham]

They do play as 3000, but cant keep the pace. Here was Anand "blunder?" with Rc1+ instead of Ra1. I ask myself how many humans, without computers, realized the game was lost after Rc1+?

45...Rc1 draws
[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/2r5 b - -


Komodo 6

33.01 +0.03 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Ke4 (6.107.755.138) 13479

Stockfish 111113

40/57 2:23 0.00 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (2.047.663.200) 14232

first blunder of the match, two point blunder,
Game 5, Anand plays 46...Rg1
position after the blunder

[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/6r1 w - -

Stockfish 111113

38/63 2:03 +2.03++ 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (1.948.789.793) 15778

[IGarcia]

They do play as 3000, but cant keep the pace. Here was Anand "blunder?" with Rc1+ instead of Ra1. I ask myself how many humans, without computers, realized the game was lost after Rc1+?

45...Rc1 draws
[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/2r5 b - -


Komodo 6

33.01 +0.03 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Ke4 (6.107.755.138) 13479

Stockfish 111113

40/57 2:23 0.00 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (2.047.663.200) 14232

first blunder of the match, two point blunder,
Game 5, Anand plays 46...Rg1
position after the blunder

[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/6r1 w - -

Stockfish 111113

38/63 2:03 +2.03++ 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (1.948.789.793) 15778

Your right operator!
Rc1+ is till a draw. Rg1 is the blunder.

[kgburcham]

They do play as 3000, but cant keep the pace. Here was Anand "blunder?" with Rc1+ instead of Ra1. I ask myself how many humans, without computers, realized the game was lost after Rc1+?

45...Rc1 draws
[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/2r5 b - -


Komodo 6

33.01 +0.03 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Ke4 (6.107.755.138) 13479

Stockfish 111113

40/57 2:23 0.00 46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (2.047.663.200) 14232

first blunder of the match, two point blunder,
Game 5, Anand plays 46...Rg1
position after the blunder

[d] 8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/6r1 w - -

Stockfish 111113

38/63 2:03 +2.03++ 47.Bg8+ Kd4 (1.948.789.793) 15778

Your right operator!
Rc1+ is till a draw. Rg1 is the blunder.

But we know the human could not see the draw because he did not play 46...Re1 instead blundered with 46...Rg1.
the 2800 human will see the drawing line with Stockfish in the Hotel room.
kgburcham

wait for it