@CPW contributors

[smatovic]

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Whatever the reason he's not active, the problem now becomes how to take ownership of the CPW website. If this is infeasible, then the problem becomes how to copy the content to a new website.

I will not engage in such an operation*, the website is still up and running, there must be other admins out there, therefore this post, it is the job of the CPW admins** to keep it alive, or to hand it over to an active community. If CPW is to shut down, the TalkChess Founders might be able to co-host an archive on TC server***.

*to save CPW is above my pay grade, a job for top engine programmers/contributors
**and I do not even know, who these are
***this should be pretty straight forward, if Founders agree, and we have web-files+database

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Srdja

[towforce]

Completely 100% fair.

Lesson Learned: when building a website (or other project) on which multiple people are involved, make sure that all contributors are able to communicate with everyone else, and that multiple people have admin keys.

Edit: this post landed at the top of a new page, so here's a view showing the previous post this responds to - link.

[phhnguyen]

Hi Shawn,

I can not tell, I was invited by Gerd Isenberg to CPW to work on the GPU article, Gerd is since mid-2022 not active anymore, and I have no admin rights to add or invite other users to that MediaWiki.

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Srdja

I thought he had died?

Do you have any official source?

Otherwise, I guess (and hope) it is not.

About a year ago, I was worried much about his sudden silence and tried all the ways I could to search and contact him, just to know if he was OK. Then he replied that he was fine and attending a bike tour around Germany. Thus I think he was tired and might quit chess.

Just let him alone!

[Graham Banks]

Hi Shawn,

I can not tell, I was invited by Gerd Isenberg to CPW to work on the GPU article, Gerd is since mid-2022 not active anymore, and I have no admin rights to add or invite other users to that MediaWiki.

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Srdja

I thought he had died?

Do you have any official source?

Otherwise, I guess (and hope) it is not.

About a year ago, I was worried much about his sudden silence and tried all the ways I could to search and contact him, just to know if he was OK. Then he replied that he was fine and attending a bike tour around Germany. Thus I think he was tired and might quit chess.

Just let him alone!

Hopefully that's the case. I wasn't meaning any disrespect.

[smatovic]

Found a list of added users since the migration in 2018:

https://www.chessprogramming.org/Special:Log/newusers

Soepel (team SF) has an account, Crem (team Lc0) has an account, Ed Schroeder (see sticky post in main forum) has an account, I can not help if people are not interested in maintaining at least the articles of their own engines....or CPW as a whole.

Seems members of core team are Mark Lefler, Gerd Isenberg and Erik Satie. Gerd is since mid-2022 not active, AFAIK Mark Lefler (with Larry Kaufman) will retire 2025 from Komodo Chess.

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Srdja

[Gerd Isenberg]

Hi Shawn,

I can not tell, I was invited by Gerd Isenberg to CPW to work on the GPU article, Gerd is since mid-2022 not active anymore, and I have no admin rights to add or invite other users to that MediaWiki.

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Srdja

I thought he had died?

Nope, still alive and riding my ebike.

[Graham Banks]

Hi Shawn,

I can not tell, I was invited by Gerd Isenberg to CPW to work on the GPU article, Gerd is since mid-2022 not active anymore, and I have no admin rights to add or invite other users to that MediaWiki.

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Srdja

I thought he had died?

Nope, still alive and riding my ebike.

Great to hear. Sorry about my perhaps thinking otherwise.

[alessandro]

I have access to CPW since I gave my small contributions on the Perry results page.

If there’s anything in particular I can do to improve or increase the quality of CPW I’m happy to do it, as long as I have the competence for it

[smatovic]

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I suggested to divide topics/engines amongst contributors, thus, just pick a topic that suits you and you are interested in? In the end it is a hobby and we want to have good time, or alike.

Shawn Xu started to update search related articles (probably partially taken from CPW 2.0):

https://www.chessprogramming.org/index. ... &limit=500

There must be other active computer chess programmers/contributors out there, maybe they can join CPW too and revive it?

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Srdja

PS: It is a difference to write a post on TC (or Discord for that matter) and a Wiki article. To do it in professional manner can require quite some time, to research things and give references. But how does the saying go, when you can explain something in your own words you have grasped it?

[smatovic]

I am not aware of a CPW contributions guideline, but here the five pillars of Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars

I think the neutral aspect is important in context of engines and people, the difference of "descriptive, normative, evaluative" writing comes up in my mind.

And, when writing on article I perform a mind-game, to be able to give for every statement a reference, then consider if reference is necessary or not.

And here a reminder to myself (I am not a native English speaker, a lot of typos and bad wording) to cross-check my typing and wording before publishing.

Further note, CPW content is currently under CC-BY-SA 3.0 license:
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en

Something like this. Idk what the CPW core team considers as CPW guideline. Maybe one of the core members can create an contribution guide article?

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Srdja