Chess System Tal II games....
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				mclane  
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- Full name: Thorsten Czub
Re: Chess System Tal II games....
do you play those games manually with mouse or via auto232 ?
			
			
									
						
										
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
Hi Thorsten,
Manualy,I don't use auto 232....
but I have a powerful laptop and enough memory and it's dedicated only for chess
			
			
									
						
							Manualy,I don't use auto 232....
but I have a powerful laptop and enough memory and it's dedicated only for chess

_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
[Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess System Tal II"]
[Black "Alfil 7.5"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B99"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "19:15:18"]
[Variation "Najdorf, Modern Main Line 13.f5 Nc5 14.f6"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7
9.O-O-O Nbd7 10.g4 b5 11.Bxf6 Nxf6 12.g5 Nd7 13.f5 Nc5 14.f6 b4 15.Ndb5 axb5 {-0.95/16
115} 16.Nxb5 Qb7 17.fxe7 Nxe4 {-2.17/16 114} 18.Qxe4 Qxe4 {-2.16/19 112} 19.Nxd6+
Kxe7 {-2.11/20 110} 20.Nxe4 Rxa2 {-2.00/18 108} 21.Bc4 Ra5 {-1.97/17 129} 22.Rhf1 h6
{-1.73/18 126} 23.gxh6 Ra1+ {-1.57/18 123} 24.Kd2 Rxd1+ {-1.92/17 120} 25.Kxd1 Rxh6
{-1.14/18 117} 26.Rf2 Rh4 {-1.05/18 115} 27.Nd2 f5 {-1.07/18 112} 28.Bd3 Kf6 {-1.09/17
110} 29.Ne4+ Ke7 {-1.13/18 108} 30.Nc5 g6 {-1.23/17 105} 31.Rg2 Kf6 {-1.34/17 135}
32.Ke1 e5 {-0.80/17 130} 33.Kd2 e4 {-0.73/17 126} 34.Ba6 Rh8 {-0.75/17 122} 35.Bxc8
Rxc8 {-0.73/19 117} 36.Nd7+ Ke6 {-0.77/19 113} 37.Nb6 Rd8+ {-0.75/18 110} 38.Ke2 Kf6
{-0.88/18 106} 39.h4 Rd6 {-0.71/18 103} 40.Nc4 Rd8 {-0.81/19 100} 41.Ne3 f4 {-0.78/17 68}
42.Ng4+ Ke6 {-0.86/18 67} 43.Nh2 f3+ {-1.04/16 67} 44.Nxf3 exf3+ {-1.03/19 66} 45.Kxf3
Kf6 {-1.03/18 65} 46.Rg4 b3 {-0.31/19 65} 47.cxb3 Rd3+ {0.00/22 64} 48.Kf4 Rd4+
{0.00/24 64} 49.Kg3 Rd3+ {0.00/22 63} 50.Kg2 Rxb3 {0.00/23 62} 1/2-1/2
[d]8/8/5kp1/8/6RP/1r6/1P4K1/8 w - - 0 51
Opponents so far,Aice 0.99.2,Alf 1.08,Alfil 7.5
Score till now 3/6
			
			
									
						
							[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess System Tal II"]
[Black "Alfil 7.5"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B99"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "19:15:18"]
[Variation "Najdorf, Modern Main Line 13.f5 Nc5 14.f6"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7
9.O-O-O Nbd7 10.g4 b5 11.Bxf6 Nxf6 12.g5 Nd7 13.f5 Nc5 14.f6 b4 15.Ndb5 axb5 {-0.95/16
115} 16.Nxb5 Qb7 17.fxe7 Nxe4 {-2.17/16 114} 18.Qxe4 Qxe4 {-2.16/19 112} 19.Nxd6+
Kxe7 {-2.11/20 110} 20.Nxe4 Rxa2 {-2.00/18 108} 21.Bc4 Ra5 {-1.97/17 129} 22.Rhf1 h6
{-1.73/18 126} 23.gxh6 Ra1+ {-1.57/18 123} 24.Kd2 Rxd1+ {-1.92/17 120} 25.Kxd1 Rxh6
{-1.14/18 117} 26.Rf2 Rh4 {-1.05/18 115} 27.Nd2 f5 {-1.07/18 112} 28.Bd3 Kf6 {-1.09/17
110} 29.Ne4+ Ke7 {-1.13/18 108} 30.Nc5 g6 {-1.23/17 105} 31.Rg2 Kf6 {-1.34/17 135}
32.Ke1 e5 {-0.80/17 130} 33.Kd2 e4 {-0.73/17 126} 34.Ba6 Rh8 {-0.75/17 122} 35.Bxc8
Rxc8 {-0.73/19 117} 36.Nd7+ Ke6 {-0.77/19 113} 37.Nb6 Rd8+ {-0.75/18 110} 38.Ke2 Kf6
{-0.88/18 106} 39.h4 Rd6 {-0.71/18 103} 40.Nc4 Rd8 {-0.81/19 100} 41.Ne3 f4 {-0.78/17 68}
42.Ng4+ Ke6 {-0.86/18 67} 43.Nh2 f3+ {-1.04/16 67} 44.Nxf3 exf3+ {-1.03/19 66} 45.Kxf3
Kf6 {-1.03/18 65} 46.Rg4 b3 {-0.31/19 65} 47.cxb3 Rd3+ {0.00/22 64} 48.Kf4 Rd4+
{0.00/24 64} 49.Kg3 Rd3+ {0.00/22 63} 50.Kg2 Rxb3 {0.00/23 62} 1/2-1/2
[d]8/8/5kp1/8/6RP/1r6/1P4K1/8 w - - 0 51
Opponents so far,Aice 0.99.2,Alf 1.08,Alfil 7.5
Score till now 3/6
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
Chess System Tal II is doing well so far even though it's not playing a top rated engines....
Next opponent is amy 0.8.7n,a tough one in my opinion
			
			
									
						
							Next opponent is amy 0.8.7n,a tough one in my opinion

_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				mclane  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
most programs you talk about i have never heard. 
i hope you talk a little about them
			
			
									
						
										
						i hope you talk a little about them

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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
Well,the easiest way to make a good impression of these programs is to look here:
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed14.htm
They are not top programs,some of them are new,they play in my lower divisions and in this rating list I am showing you,you can understand their strength approximately
			
			
									
						
							http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed14.htm
They are not top programs,some of them are new,they play in my lower divisions and in this rating list I am showing you,you can understand their strength approximately

_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
....In the Marshall variation CSTII was simply outplayed   
 
[Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Amy 0.8.7n"]
[Black "Chess System Tal IIr"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "C89"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Time "09:52:43"]
[Variation "Marshall, Main Line, Classical, 18.a4 f5"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Be3 Bg4 16.Qd3 Rae8
17.Nd2 Re6 18.a4 f5 19.Qf1 Qh5 20.f4 bxa4 21.Rxa4 Rb8 22.Bxd5 cxd5 23.Rxa6 {+1.50/13
109} Rh6 24.Qg2 {+1.90/13 66} Qf7 25.Ra2 {+1.84/13 130} Bh3 26.Qf2 {+2.00/14 71} Qb7
27.Nf3 {+1.98/14 79} Qb3 28.Rea1 {+2.12/14 156} Re8 29.Ne5 {+2.14/14 112} Rhe6 30.Qf3
{0.00/13 285} Bb8 31.Bf2 {+2.25/12 117} Bg4 32.Nxg4 {+2.52/15 125} fxg4 33.Qxg4
{+2.64/14 139} Kh8 34.Qd1 {+3.08/13 116} Qb7 35.b4 {+3.15/13 79} Qc8 36.Qd3 {+3.16/13 87}
Rc6 37.Re1 {+3.20/13 101} Rf8 38.Qf3 {+3.20/12 88} Rxc3 39.Qxd5 {+3.18/12 56} Rc6
40.b5 {+3.18/12 70} Rd6 41.Qc5 {+3.08/12 112} Qg4 42.Rae2 {+3.18/12 55} 1-0
[d]1b3r1k/6pp/3r4/1PQ5/3P1Pq1/6P1/4RB1P/4R1K1 b - - 4 42
			
			
									
						
							 
 [Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Amy 0.8.7n"]
[Black "Chess System Tal IIr"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "C89"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Time "09:52:43"]
[Variation "Marshall, Main Line, Classical, 18.a4 f5"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Be3 Bg4 16.Qd3 Rae8
17.Nd2 Re6 18.a4 f5 19.Qf1 Qh5 20.f4 bxa4 21.Rxa4 Rb8 22.Bxd5 cxd5 23.Rxa6 {+1.50/13
109} Rh6 24.Qg2 {+1.90/13 66} Qf7 25.Ra2 {+1.84/13 130} Bh3 26.Qf2 {+2.00/14 71} Qb7
27.Nf3 {+1.98/14 79} Qb3 28.Rea1 {+2.12/14 156} Re8 29.Ne5 {+2.14/14 112} Rhe6 30.Qf3
{0.00/13 285} Bb8 31.Bf2 {+2.25/12 117} Bg4 32.Nxg4 {+2.52/15 125} fxg4 33.Qxg4
{+2.64/14 139} Kh8 34.Qd1 {+3.08/13 116} Qb7 35.b4 {+3.15/13 79} Qc8 36.Qd3 {+3.16/13 87}
Rc6 37.Re1 {+3.20/13 101} Rf8 38.Qf3 {+3.20/12 88} Rxc3 39.Qxd5 {+3.18/12 56} Rc6
40.b5 {+3.18/12 70} Rd6 41.Qc5 {+3.08/12 112} Qg4 42.Rae2 {+3.18/12 55} 1-0
[d]1b3r1k/6pp/3r4/1PQ5/3P1Pq1/6P1/4RB1P/4R1K1 b - - 4 42
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
....and a well deserved draw with the white pieces   
 
[Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess System Tal II"]
[Black "Amy 0.8.7n"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "13:51:14"]
[Variation "Burn, 5.Nxe4 Nbd7"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "72"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Nbd7 6.c3 Be7 {+0.12/13 81} 7.Nxf6+
Bxf6 {+0.06/14 138} 8.Bxf6 Nxf6 {+0.11/14 94} 9.Bc4 Qd6 {+0.11/14 88} 10.Nf3 O-O
{+0.09/13 69} 11.Qc2 b6 {-0.03/13 76} 12.Ne5 Bb7 {-0.08/13 82} 13.f3 c5 {-0.19/12 95}
14.O-O-O cxd4 {-0.32/13 81} 15.Qe2 Qc7 {-0.33/12 113} 16.Rxd4 Rfd8 {-0.32/13 161}
17.Rhd1 Rxd4 {-0.32/14 72} 18.Rxd4 a6 {-0.32/13 60} 19.Kb1 b5 {-0.25/13 73} 20.Bb3 Re8
{-0.27/12 55} 21.f4 Nd5 {-0.30/11 68} 22.Bc2 Rd8 {-0.19/11 100} 23.Qd3 g6 {-0.22/13 72}
24.g3 Qb6 {-0.22/12 77} 25.h4 Kg7 {-0.30/11 48} 26.Nf3 Rc8 {-0.22/11 81} 27.Ka1 a5
{-0.33/11 73} 28.h5 Nb4 {+0.03/12 87} 29.cxb4 Bxf3 {+0.03/12 44} 30.Rd7 Rc4 {+0.06/11 38}
31.Qxf3 Rxc2 {+0.14/13 83} 32.Kb1 Rc7 {+0.14/12 36} 33.Rxc7 Qxc7 {+0.30/14 90} 34.Qd3
gxh5 {+0.17/13 36} 35.Qxb5 axb4 {+0.20/13 39} 36.Qxb4 f6 {+0.22/12 34} 1/2-1/2
[d]8/2q3kp/4pp2/7p/1Q3P2/6P1/PP6/1K6 w - - 0 37
Opponents so far:Aice 0.99.2,Alf 1.08,Alfil 7.5,Amy 0.8.7n
Score till now 3,5/8
			
			
									
						
							 
 [Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess System Tal II"]
[Black "Amy 0.8.7n"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "13:51:14"]
[Variation "Burn, 5.Nxe4 Nbd7"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "72"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Nbd7 6.c3 Be7 {+0.12/13 81} 7.Nxf6+
Bxf6 {+0.06/14 138} 8.Bxf6 Nxf6 {+0.11/14 94} 9.Bc4 Qd6 {+0.11/14 88} 10.Nf3 O-O
{+0.09/13 69} 11.Qc2 b6 {-0.03/13 76} 12.Ne5 Bb7 {-0.08/13 82} 13.f3 c5 {-0.19/12 95}
14.O-O-O cxd4 {-0.32/13 81} 15.Qe2 Qc7 {-0.33/12 113} 16.Rxd4 Rfd8 {-0.32/13 161}
17.Rhd1 Rxd4 {-0.32/14 72} 18.Rxd4 a6 {-0.32/13 60} 19.Kb1 b5 {-0.25/13 73} 20.Bb3 Re8
{-0.27/12 55} 21.f4 Nd5 {-0.30/11 68} 22.Bc2 Rd8 {-0.19/11 100} 23.Qd3 g6 {-0.22/13 72}
24.g3 Qb6 {-0.22/12 77} 25.h4 Kg7 {-0.30/11 48} 26.Nf3 Rc8 {-0.22/11 81} 27.Ka1 a5
{-0.33/11 73} 28.h5 Nb4 {+0.03/12 87} 29.cxb4 Bxf3 {+0.03/12 44} 30.Rd7 Rc4 {+0.06/11 38}
31.Qxf3 Rxc2 {+0.14/13 83} 32.Kb1 Rc7 {+0.14/12 36} 33.Rxc7 Qxc7 {+0.30/14 90} 34.Qd3
gxh5 {+0.17/13 36} 35.Qxb5 axb4 {+0.20/13 39} 36.Qxb4 f6 {+0.22/12 34} 1/2-1/2
[d]8/2q3kp/4pp2/7p/1Q3P2/6P1/PP6/1K6 w - - 0 37
Opponents so far:Aice 0.99.2,Alf 1.08,Alfil 7.5,Amy 0.8.7n
Score till now 3,5/8
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				Dr.Wael Deeb  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
Hi,
Hehe,this was a fast combinational draw 
 
[Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Ant 6.06"]
[Black "Chess System Tal II"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
[Time "20:10:34"]
[Variation "Petrosian, Kasparov, 7...Nxc3 8.bxc3 c5"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "36"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
1.d4 {+50.00/2} Nf6 2.c4 {+50.00/2} e6 3.Nf3 {+50.00/2} b6 4.a3 {+50.00/2} Bb7
5.Nc3 {+50.00/2} d5 6.cxd5 {+50.00/2} Nxd5 7.Qc2 {+50.00/2} Nxc3 8.bxc3 {-0.14/12
219} c5 9.Bb2 {-0.18/11 93} cxd4 10.Rd1 {-0.14/11 91} Qc7 11.Qa4+ {-0.24/11 55} b5
12.Qxb5+ {+0.16/12 89} Nd7 13.Nxd4 {0.00/12 87} Bxa3 14.Bxa3 {0.00/14 85} Qxc3+ 15.Rd2
{0.00/4} Qa1+ 16.Rd1 {0.00/18 95} Qc3+ 17.Rd2 {0.00/2} Qa1+ 18.Rd1 {0.00/21 84} Qc3+
{3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
[d]r3k2r/pb1n1ppp/4p3/1Q6/3N4/B1q5/4PPPP/3RKB1R w Kkq - 8 19
			
			
									
						
							Hehe,this was a fast combinational draw
 
 [Event "iZone_RL_2007_10"]
[Site "Varna"]
[Date "2007.07.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Ant 6.06"]
[Black "Chess System Tal II"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
[Time "20:10:34"]
[Variation "Petrosian, Kasparov, 7...Nxc3 8.bxc3 c5"]
[TimeControl "2400+40"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "36"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
1.d4 {+50.00/2} Nf6 2.c4 {+50.00/2} e6 3.Nf3 {+50.00/2} b6 4.a3 {+50.00/2} Bb7
5.Nc3 {+50.00/2} d5 6.cxd5 {+50.00/2} Nxd5 7.Qc2 {+50.00/2} Nxc3 8.bxc3 {-0.14/12
219} c5 9.Bb2 {-0.18/11 93} cxd4 10.Rd1 {-0.14/11 91} Qc7 11.Qa4+ {-0.24/11 55} b5
12.Qxb5+ {+0.16/12 89} Nd7 13.Nxd4 {0.00/12 87} Bxa3 14.Bxa3 {0.00/14 85} Qxc3+ 15.Rd2
{0.00/4} Qa1+ 16.Rd1 {0.00/18 95} Qc3+ 17.Rd2 {0.00/2} Qa1+ 18.Rd1 {0.00/21 84} Qc3+
{3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
[d]r3k2r/pb1n1ppp/4p3/1Q6/3N4/B1q5/4PPPP/3RKB1R w Kkq - 8 19
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
			
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				George Tsavdaris  
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Re: Chess System Tal II games....
I don't understand why you stopped the game here declaring a draw.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....and a well deserved draw with the white pieces
[d]8/2q3kp/4pp2/7p/1Q3P2/6P1/PP6/1K6 w - - 0 37
This position is not an obvious draw.
After 37.a4 white has good chances to win....
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"Is it a boy or girl?"
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