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Rolf
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Re: Pro Whittington

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Michael Sherwin wrote:Well, someone get a hold of him and invite him back!
Like all others you miss the point, Mike. Sorry to show you that the actual situation, his absence, isnt due to a literal ban but due to a climate as he sees it that doesnt allow to discuss certain topics. Not only or NOT because of a perfect censoring but through a preference of interest of most members, so, a general climate, a closedness towards new ideas. Note, that this isnt what I am telling you but I am only sort of reporter. Things might have changed in the recent past but that was it what Whittington thought some years ago when I had email contact with him.
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Re: Pro Whittington

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Rolf wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:Well, someone get a hold of him and invite him back!
Like all others you miss the point, Mike. Sorry to show you that the actual situation, his absence, isnt due to a literal ban but due to a climate as he sees it that doesnt allow to discuss certain topics. Not only or NOT because of a perfect censoring but through a preference of interest of most members, so, a general climate, a closedness towards new ideas. Note, that this isnt what I am telling you but I am only sort of reporter. Things might have changed in the recent past but that was it what Whittington thought some years ago when I had email contact with him.
Hey Rolf,

I did not miss the point. Climates change and deserts can be made fertile by irrigation. All I said was, to invite him back.

Mike
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GS wrote:
Rolf wrote:
GS wrote:
Rolf wrote:
mclane wrote:i think you can reduce the strength of CSTAL and it would be an interesting opponent due to the sacrifycing playing style and the fact that it plays much like a human beeing.
you never know if is doing a bluff or not.
What is the reason for the very long ban for Whittington, the programmer of CSTal? How could Whittington be banned in the first place, as a programmer? I think he's the only programmer ever for having been banned, which is a scandal IMO. Why not publicly clarify that Chris is welcomed here in CCC? He was a friend of mine.
Why do you think he is banned and what has this to do with that thread?

Guenther
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I answer this for several reasons:

- you always helped me out when I had questions about your chess data

- the questions allow explanations about the past of CCC for newcomers

- with my answer I want to support your run for the elections

As I have said about Graham, the data oriented approach in all respects of questions in conflicts of communication on the net is the only helpful, reasonable and peaceful for a true solution. The question is already part of the answer and without questions a conflict might last unneccessarily.

What Fern wrote is false insofar as I myself got from Whittington that he was/is banned.
How long ago? ;-) There is no ban over years and I wonder why you bring this up now?
Rolf wrote: Perhaps now the answer could be understood what this should have to do with the thread about CSTal.
Nope. The thread was about 'Thanks Swami!' before it was hijacked.
Anyhow it is clear that Whittington is not banned...

Guenther
Chris Whittington is more interested in looking after pigs in England.....

:)

He is not banned here.....he banned himself.

He told me so himself.

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I believe the latest news about curly-tailed Bruce and Robert and most of their relatives is that they are now employed elsewhere, no longer working on the farm and the programmer of Chess System Tal seems to be doing okay, although the present situation on the stock markets is maybe a bit worrisome. But I'm sure that Chris Whittington predicted all that!:
Geschrieben von schachprogramierer ex am 04. Juli 2007 16:42:22:

Als Antwort auf: Re: eine Fernschachpartie geschrieben von TC am 04. Juli 2007 16:29:16:

These are not CSTal moves, they are mine. If CSTal plays similar then, well, work it out for yourself.

It is no pity, but instead an excellent thing. We all must move on. This programmer had the greatest success of all in the game of creating and selling games to endusers and made 4 million pounds by selling the business. Would have been a fool not to, no? The alpacas were all sold off a few years ago, btw, replaced with pigs, sheep and cows. The pigs are sold and working on another farm and programmer probably will retire to France next. He's working on AI applications in the stock markets at the moment, way more fun, more productive and potentially much more lucrative than computer games for geeks.

23 Bd2! nice, huh?!


>>it continues
>>21. Rd1 Qe7
>>22. Rd7 Qb4
>>23. Bd2 fxe6
>>24. Bxe6
>>and the material has to be returned, white has a dangerous passed pawn, with tactics on a1-h8 diagonal if black tries to capture it - should be a white win
>>Positional sacrificial attack. Computers left out in the cold, unable to see it. Sacrificial attacks in correspondence games work well, since most of the opponents are using computers which can't see. Playing against computer armed humans is quite fun, I have many examples.
>if your opponent would have had ChessSystemTal he would have had the chance to see white's plan.
>It seems this Chess System Tal is the only program that understands what white is doing.
>what a pity that the programmer of CSTal resigned from computerchess a few years ago to care for some alpaquas.
From Thorsten's forum http://f50.parsimony.net/forum200336/messages/8368.htm

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