Good Bye ComputerChess !

[Graham Banks]

Hi Sedat

Hate to see you go..... A question though, since you are no longer involved with computer chess do you think you could send me one of your Quad computers?

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hi Sedat
Very bad news although I can very well understand your
decision. It's nevertheless a pity but I would like to thank
you very much for all you have done for computer chess
in the last years. And finally, I wish you all the best in
the future.
Kind regards
Kurt

Thank a lot ...Kurt

Maybe one day we will create again new Chessmaster settings

All the best to you,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hi Mr. Sedat,

Thank you so much for you tireless effort which contributed much to the computerchess.

Have a good break and hopefully and looking forward to your return!


Best Regards,
Kah Huat, Koh

Thank you very much Kah...

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

IMO the community in computerchess isnt human.

Thanks a lot Rolf

Reading your postings were always very interesting to me

Best,
Sedat

[Vinvin]

Thanks for your whole work , Sedat !

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hi Sedat

Hate to see you go..... A question though, since you are no longer involved with computer chess do you think you could send me one of your Quad computers?

Thank you...

[Sedat Canbaz]

Thanks for your whole work , Sedat !

Not at all,it was my pleajure

Regrds,
Sedat

[Rolf]

IMO the community in computerchess isnt human.

Thanks a lot Rolf

Reading your postings were always very interesting to me

Best,
Sedat

Thanks Sedat. Nobody asked what I've meant and understandably Czub rolled his eyes in smiley and others rolled on floor laughing about my term "human". I think it helps if I add the following details.

We have here a moderator like CW who was a famous programmer and in his existence he reveiled what's wrong in compterchess.

We have a computerchess that overestimates an utalitarian paradigm of mere machine power. CW with his CSTal opposed that with a mainly chess thinking based on inspiration and surprise in competition. In a way he put the human mind against mere power of a machine lead utilitarism.

Of course this has conseuences for the whole community and its relations.
CW is the good example of a human(itarian) and love approach in humanity's subgroups. A mere power hardware approach leads to the condemnation of seemingly uninteresting, irrelevant, not orthodox enough outsiders, even experts from different fields.

Let me give a simple historic example. Always when I read here the mention of Ossi Weiner by the here attending eye-witness, I see how a sort of malice denies the deep dedication and chess expertise of such a historic figure. Louwman is another example. Through his painful last months of life he was deeply dedicated to his beloved CC but nobody forgets to mentions some failures as if human beings were like machines if everything went fine.

Today but already ten years ago, computerchess is obsessed by number and result fetishism through the testing community while the beauty of a chess playing machine exists beyond its statistical performance.

Ok, now I must also advise how then computerchess hobby activities should look like.

I would enjoy if we had users, hobbyists, freaks and experts who presented different programs with their chess play without directly connecting our perception with the overall "strength" and "ranking" in "Elo" lists. Because that spoils our potential estimation of something beautiful with a purely utalitarian stamp.

IMO the more or less inhuman practice in the actual CC could be observed in the Graz Wch events around Fritz Reul who just were in his examinations and the committee really contacted his mother to order him to come quickly justifying his code...

Better would we live in a community, still with fair championships, but also with a connection of different personalities of prograsmmers and testers dedicated to a specific program without the fixation on mere numbers and ranking places.

I state this becasuse I am fundamentally convinced that CC like computer science isnt a real science at all. It's a technology for really smart people. But in its center should stand the human hobbyist or pro if possible who is also respected for his human character and not only for the Elo of his machine. It's a bless that Rybka has such an outstanding respectful and careful programmer like Vas. Also CSTal should not be totally forgotten.

All the best to you Sedat.

[S.Taylor]

Sedat, this might be good for you. I personally wanted to freeze my interest in computerchess, and to keep it frozen (after having my best program or two for personal use), but then to get into human chess, and then to eventually give it ALL up in stages, whilst turning to all other things in life.
However, computer chess (as a consumer, I mean) was intended by me, as a stepping stone for practicing chess as a human. Except that I got stuck, and didn't move much since then.
Good Luck!

[Erik Roggenburg]

I think we will all miss your efforts and time-consuming work.

Best wishes.