World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 *

This looks like the new move.
[d]r1b1kb1r/1p3p1p/p1np1p2/4qp2/4P3/1NNQ4/PPP3PP/2KR1B1R w kq - 0 13
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

Post by emerson4301972 »

well said. : )

This match's play has been interesting because anand got the lead. If it was kramnik who is in the lead, we will have a boring match coz kramink will keep on drawing
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 *

This looks like the new move.
From http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008/10 ... -live.html :
12...exf5 A very brave Kramnik! Bravo! No matter what happens, no one can say that Kramnik backs off from a tough fight. This is not a blunder. It is a playable move, just dangerous. This is what the chess fans want to see, two heavyweight champions not backing off an inch.

From http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.php?k ... pgn&game=0 :
12... exf5 Novelty of doubtful advantage
(13. Kb1 fxe4 14. Qxe4 Bg7 15. Qh4 Qg5 16. Qxg5 fxg5 17. Ne4 Ke7 18. Nxd6 Rd8 19. Nxc8+ Raxc8 20. Bd3 h6 21. Rhe1+ Kf8 22. c3 Rc7 23. Be4 Rxd1+ 24. Rxd1 Ke7 25. Re1 Kd6 Rybka3_8cpu (0:07.23)+0.29|d20)
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Anil wrote:
AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 *

This looks like the new move.
From http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008/10 ... -live.html :
12...exf5 A very brave Kramnik! Bravo! No matter what happens, no one can say that Kramnik backs off from a tough fight. This is not a blunder. It is a playable move, just dangerous. This is what the chess fans want to see, two heavyweight champions not backing off an inch.

From http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.php?k ... pgn&game=0 :
12... exf5 Novelty of doubtful advantage
(13. Kb1 fxe4 14. Qxe4 Bg7 15. Qh4 Qg5 16. Qxg5 fxg5 17. Ne4 Ke7 18. Nxd6 Rd8 19. Nxc8+ Raxc8 20. Bd3 h6 21. Rhe1+ Kf8 22. c3 Rc7 23. Be4 Rxd1+ 24. Rxd1 Ke7 25. Re1 Kd6 Rybka3_8cpu (0:07.23)+0.29|d20)
I also like g3 for white here, with the idea of Bg2 to follow at some point.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "25"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 *

[d]r1b1kb1r/1p3p1p/p1np1p2/4qp2/4P3/1NN1Q3/PPP3PP/2KR1B1R b kq - 0 13
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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With Qe3, Anand might be going for Queen exchange and a draw.

But, Rybka says Anand lost his advantage (if any) with this move:
(13... fxe4 Rybka3_8cpu (0:00.39)+0.00|d16
May need better depth.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[d]r1b1kb1r/1p3p1p/p1np1p2/4qp2/4P3/1NN1Q3/PPP3PP/2KR1B1R b kq - 0 13

Are the 2 Bishops worth the black pawn structure here? Is there enough comp for black? I don't think so, not at this time control anyway.
Last edited by AdminX on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Anil wrote:With Qe3, Anand might be going for Queen exchange and a draw.

But, Rybka says Anand lost his advantage (if any) with this move:
(13... fxe4 Rybka3_8cpu (0:00.39)+0.00|d16
May need better depth.
I don't care for the white Queen being on the dark square at this time.

Still White is ok if he's careful.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Anil wrote:With Qe3, Anand might be going for Queen exchange and a draw.

But, Rybka says Anand lost his advantage (if any) with this move:
(13... fxe4 Rybka3_8cpu (0:00.39)+0.00|d16
May need better depth.
I don't care for the white Queen being on the dark square at this time.

Still White is ok if he's careful.
Anand may also be planning to launch an attach on black's queen side by Qb6 and the knights and bishop coming into action.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Anil wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Anil wrote:With Qe3, Anand might be going for Queen exchange and a draw.

But, Rybka says Anand lost his advantage (if any) with this move:
(13... fxe4 Rybka3_8cpu (0:00.39)+0.00|d16
May need better depth.
I don't care for the white Queen being on the dark square at this time.

Still White is ok if he's careful.
Anand may also be planning to launch an attach on black's queen side by Qb6 and the knights and bishop coming into action.
The d5 square is glowing hot to me for a knight or rook from white. :wink: Looks like white has lots of good moves to choose from, even Bd3.
Last edited by AdminX on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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