Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Henrik Dinesen wrote:AdminX wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that cheating exist on Playchess. What bugs me however is when someone wrongly accuses me of cheating because I have played better than them, or happen to me on my game that week. Then to top it off, they claim to have proof, when in reality they just played poorly or made a mistake. Unlike most on Playchess, I do go over my losses with the assistance of a strong chess engine. I try not to make the same mistakes twice. Last time I checked, that is the correct thing to do. So as with Cheaters, I add sore losers to my Ignore list as well, since I really don't care to listen to the cry babies when they lose.
PS: There are also allot of honest and really good players on Playchess as well. When I come across them, I make sure to add them to my friends list.
I've really rarely felt that anybody cheated on me on Playchess, and when it happened it was when someone all the sudden showed a big streghnt increase in a somewhat poor position, finding the strongest moves till the end, or simply a complex winning sequence, so I felt like someone else took over the game.
So, in my oppinion most in there just plays the games fair and for chess-pleasure, but I might be one of the lucky ones.
And I too have once been accused for cheating by a loser, and my attitude resesembled yours
Best,
So after reading your threads,I am sure that people will think that Rybka 3 Human is playing against them when it's only me playing honestly
Humble person is my second name regards,
Dr.D
Hi Wael,
At least ypor honest and accurate when it's comes to the particular program you may be confused with
Joke aside, one of the last things to cross my mind during online play, is if I'm "cheated" on. It needs to knock my head like a big, heavy hammer before I get suspicious - more naivity for my part, than plain stupidity, I hope.
As another aspect is, like Steven wrote, a good game is a good game.
I'd say, if someone feels they need a program to trash me in chess, then I should pad myself on the shoulder !
In any instance, I don't see the benefit from the cheaters side except maybe some artificial rating till he/she gets those erased when eventually caught. However, it's to understand those who's truly annoyed by the abuse, those - few, is my impression - is conduction on the online chess-scene. Anyway, lots is very hard to proove, and if it cannot be proven with enough certainty, why have the rules? As a request; please be nice, don't cheat!
Here, ladies, gentlemen & all the rest, is a little cheating history for you, don't cover your mouth if case of an unwilling laugh - it's "cyberspace" and laughs still allowed (in the corner).
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Few years back, or was it few? Some atleast, no more than 10... Or 8, we were a little group from the chessclub that enjoyed meeting privately 1-2 times a week, always fridays or saturdays, for some really good food, all on shared basis. Cooking and preparations was mutual too, howver it was alway the same home we used.
Now, there were no cheating when making the food, nor when open the beers and uncorking the red-wines... Ohh, forgot to mention, we drank a bit too... You know, just to help the digestion, of course.
We would enjoy like two hours of consuming, moderately naturally, cold as well as hot dinners, with some supplies of the right liquids to it all the right way. Talking and chatting, even a stray input of humour occured on a bad evening. After all, we were a chess-gang, not some lunatics, and the ages ranged from 30-60, the number of people from 5-10, ratings from 1300-2300 and IQ's from 102-160. All average.
After dinner we would normally have some blitz games (I rarely play blitz myself, but these nights were exceptions - generally). At some point however, the idea arised, that it should be a tournament against Genius, each player played one 5 minute blitz against the laptop, fewest lost games made a winner, if possible. I didn't play myself, as the only, because I suffered from both lower rating and IQ, compared to Genius and the already redwine intaken...
But hey, it was fun to watch, and a friend with a rating of like 1950 got a draw and won the tournament.
The above event was then the inspiration of the cheating night, which was a few weeks later when playing Genius got somewhat less fun.
Our host was the first in the club to join ICC, and in a bright moment he suggested that his ICC-rating needed a boost, it was only around 1800 blitz compared to his established ELO of around 2000-2100 (normal TC).
Now, ok... He needed someone behind him, so we agreed to assist, giving small advises and hints - let's see that rating fly babe! It did, for a while, but unfortunately we all got so dry in the throats, that we needed more wine... Or was it because of the foodpoisoning? Not sure now.
Point is, a bunch of strong brave wikings, with no known enemies. Except, these guys out there who beat our dear friend's ICC account! Not sure how it happened, but someone suggested the new weapon, Genius on the laptop. Soon he smiled to us with his blue board, and all pieces in initial position, ready to fight... Chess-masters and less, felt much better now (or did we?), atleast the we all felt something like: On a dayli basis you're sooo good, now you're a crock! And together! I larger dimensions, I think that's what happen to many criminals, they get a kick from being part of something and by circumwent or break the rules (hindside wisdom).
We went at it, and won game after game with Genius brilliant tactics, while chips and peanuts wnet down our throats or on the floor. All deluted with redwine and beer. What a magnitude of supreme intelligence and maturity we represented
The combination was uniq; strong players, drunk by the food eaten earlier, fellowship, warm rooms and an incresing amount of mess around us. You can't beat that!
Okay, we went downstairs after we meet a cheater, who clearly used software, better program, better hardware and better coordination between handling the movemaking-program and the ICC board.
When we went downstairs, it was clear, that we'd been cheated by a better cheater, and we was merely flat broken - those who needed the restroom too.
For me it was all very education: My philosofi stands; you don't gain by cheating in the long run, but you may have a few great moments of fun. I find mine other ways.
We went back yo buisness as usual, but it was some for most us, few can't remember it at all, and distrust it happened - heavy food, stay away , it's bad for the memory
After this, I it find worth to mention, that I see chess-software piracy a alot bigger problem than online cheating at present. I just wont use my few calibers on the poor cheat, but pirates is worth quite some shots.
Cheers, prost and skål,
