My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Terry McCracken wrote:So what's your part in all this?
This is a public forum where people can tell their opinion to others. Thats what I am doing.

Sometimes useful discussions are the result, but unfortunately not in the CCC lately.
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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M ANSARI wrote:
Alexander Schmidt wrote:Pro Ippolit statements are not an anti-rybka-campain.

I said, I think VR's statement was wrong. Ippolit is not just a decompiled Rybka 3. I think this is clear.

Maybe VR thought he is right at that time and maybe Ippolit contains some Rybka code. But so far there are not many hints for that.

BTW, is there a newer statement by VR? What did he say lately about the "Clone"?
Can I ask you a question. Since you seem to be hinting that you also believe that Ippolit has Rybka code. Do you think that Ippolit without the Rybka code would be of similar strength to what it is with the Rybka code?
It is the same old question we all know, but with reversed colours:
Do you think that Rybka without the Fruit code would be of similar strength to what it is with the Fruit code?
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:So what's your part in all this?
This is a public forum where people can tell their opinion to others. Thats what I am doing.

Sometimes useful discussions are the result, but unfortunately not in the CCC lately.
Let me try a conversation:

were you able to prove your identity by giving your address?

would you please tell me what program of a commercial chess programmer you would like to rip apart(=analyse) now? or are you obsessed by Rybka?
-Popper and Lakatos are good but I'm stuck on Leibowitz
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:
M ANSARI wrote: Since you seem to be hinting that you also believe that Ippolit has Rybka code.
You missunderstood me :)

I really don't know it. I am sure it is based on something different than Rybka. Also I am sure it contains something of Rybka. All of the following possibilities have the same likelyness to me:

1. Decompiled Rybka code was copied to Ippolit (Illegal)
2. Rybka was decompiled and it contains ideas taken out of that decompiled code. While decompiling is illegal, takeing ideas is not. (Unclear legal situation for me, but I guess legal action would fail)
3. Ideas of Rybka where taken by studying it's behaviour, studying Strelka's source, StockFish sources (which also uses some "Rybka ideas") (legal)
In other words, there is 66.6% chances that Ippolit was produced through illegal behavior according to you.

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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Rolf wrote:were you able to prove your identity by giving your address?

would you please tell me what program of a commercial chess programmer you would like to rip apart(=analyse) now? or are you obsessed by Rybka?
I could give you my adress, yes. But I don't know why I should.

And I do not rip Rybka.

More questions?

Maybe you can be so kind to answer my question here:

http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 19&t=30831

"BTW, is there a newer statement by VR? What did he say lately about the "Clone"?"
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Rolf wrote:
Alexander Schmidt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:So what's your part in all this?
This is a public forum where people can tell their opinion to others. Thats what I am doing.

Sometimes useful discussions are the result, but unfortunately not in the CCC lately.
Let me try a conversation:

were you able to prove your identity by giving your address?

would you please tell me what program of a commercial chess programmer you would like to rip apart(=analyse) now? or are you obsessed by Rybka?
It is offensive speach, not conversation.
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:So what's your part in all this?
This is a public forum where people can tell their opinion to others. Thats what I am doing.

Sometimes useful discussions are the result, but unfortunately not in the CCC lately.
Gee...I wonder why? :roll:
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:
Rolf wrote:were you able to prove your identity by giving your address?

would you please tell me what program of a commercial chess programmer you would like to rip apart(=analyse) now? or are you obsessed by Rybka?
I could give you my adress, yes. But I don't know why I should.

And I do not rip Rybka.

More questions?
Are you a German? I ask because you dont know the meaning of to be able. That asked if you could not if you should.

Then the rip question. I didnt ask what you personally would do next but what the group of anonymous programmers planned. I thought, you have a connection with this group
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Rolf wrote:Are you a German?
Yes.
Rolf wrote:I ask because you dont know the meaning of to be able. That asked if you could not if you should.
Alexander Schmidt wrote:I could give you my adress, yes.
Rolf wrote:I thought, you have a connection with this group
No, I don't.
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Re: My View On The Anti-Rybka Hate Campaign P.1

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Terry McCracken wrote:Gee...I wonder why? :roll:
Thank you very much again for your nice contribution to a factual debate.

Seriously, you are the last person here who has the right to put my posts into question :lol: