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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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gladius wrote:Current state:

[Event "105m+15s, unrated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2012.12.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Rybka Cluster 64 Cor"]
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "43"]
[EventDate "2012.12.04"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 {0.12/27 264} 4. Nxd4 {0.14/22 184} g6 {
(e5) 0.07/30 77} 5. c4 {0.18/23 487} d6 {(Sf6) 0.10/31 0} 6. Be2 {
(Sc3) 0.25/24 473} Nxd4 {0.15/30 180} 7. Qxd4 {0.27/25 0} Nf6 {0.14/32 201} 8.
Nc3 {0.28/25 48} Bg7 {0.17/31 291} 9. Be3 {0.27/24 0} O-O {0.14/29 128} 10. Qd2
{0.28/23 38} Qa5 {(Sg4) 0.17/29 427} 11. f3 {(0-0) 0.36/24 435} Be6 {
0.18/29 193} 12. Rc1 {(Sd5) 0.38/24 0} Rfc8 {0.16/29 107} 13. b3 {0.40/22 23}
a6 {0.18/29 91} 14. Na4 {(Sd5) 0.44/23 40} Qxd2+ {0.14/27 140} 15. Kxd2 {
0.43/24 13} Nd7 {0.16/27 272} 16. g4 {0.42/22 0} Re8 {(Tab8) 0.17/29 120} 17.
h4 {0.48/24 414} h6 {0.19/29 0} 18. Nc3 {(Thg1) 0.51/23 180} Nc5 {
(Tac8) 0.27/27 186} 19. b4 {(Sd5) 0.50/23 357} Nd7 {0.25/31 132} 20. Nd5 {
0.47/23 0} a5 {(Tac8) 0.27/31 535} 21. b5 {0.54/22 104} Rac8 {0.28/30 0} 22. f4
{0.52/23 107} *
Thank you, please keep us updated
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

Post by Lavir »

This time it looks much better for the Rybka Cluster. It has a good position.

EDIT: For the Hiarcs book Houdini 3 got out of book with 16... Re8. The best move was 16... f5!
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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[Event "105m+15s, unrated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2012.12.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Rybka Cluster 64 Cor"]
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "60"]
[EventDate "2012.12.04"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 {0.12/27 264} 4. Nxd4 {0.14/22 184} g6 {
(e5) 0.07/30 77} 5. c4 {0.18/23 487} d6 {(Sf6) 0.10/31 0} 6. Be2 {
(Sc3) 0.25/24 473} Nxd4 {0.15/30 180} 7. Qxd4 {0.27/25 0} Nf6 {0.14/32 201} 8.
Nc3 {0.28/25 48} Bg7 {0.17/31 291} 9. Be3 {0.27/24 0} O-O {0.14/29 128} 10. Qd2
{0.28/23 38} Qa5 {(Sg4) 0.17/29 427} 11. f3 {(0-0) 0.36/24 435} Be6 {
0.18/29 193} 12. Rc1 {(Sd5) 0.38/24 0} Rfc8 {0.16/29 107} 13. b3 {0.40/22 23}
a6 {0.18/29 91} 14. Na4 {(Sd5) 0.44/23 40} Qxd2+ {0.14/27 140} 15. Kxd2 {
0.43/24 13} Nd7 {0.16/27 272} 16. g4 {0.42/22 0} Re8 {(Tab8) 0.17/29 120} 17.
h4 {0.48/24 414} h6 {0.19/29 0} 18. Nc3 {(Thg1) 0.51/23 180} Nc5 {
(Tac8) 0.27/27 186} 19. b4 {(Sd5) 0.50/23 357} Nd7 {0.25/31 132} 20. Nd5 {
0.47/23 0} a5 {(Tac8) 0.27/31 535} 21. b5 {0.54/22 104} Rac8 {0.28/30 0} 22. f4
{0.52/23 107} Bf6 {(a4) 0.31/30 56} 23. b6 {(f5) 0.58/23 400} Bb2 {
(Sc5) 0.26/29 106} 24. Rc2 {0.49/20 203} Bxd5 {0.22/31 0} 25. exd5 {0.39/20 65}
Ba3 {0.23/31 48} 26. h5 {0.35/22 62} e5 {0.16/30 34} 27. hxg6 {0.38/22 23} exf4
{0.19/30 60} 28. Bxf4 {(gxf7+) 0.46/22 66} Re4 {0.14/29 74} 29. gxf7+ {
0.31/23 0} Kxf7 {0.14/19 0} 30. Bxh6 {0.33/23 72} Nxb6 {0.14/28 36} *
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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http://www.screenleap.com/932712461

try URL for live screen transmission. I hope it works

CK
IWB wrote:... is planed for Tuesday, 4th of December, 19.00 CET on Playchess.

This time we picked a short but common opening.

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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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Hugo wrote:http://www.screenleap.com/932712461

try URL for live screen transmission. I hope it works

CK
IWB wrote:... is planed for Tuesday, 4th of December, 19.00 CET on Playchess.

This time we picked a short but common opening.

Bye
Ingo
Working for me, thanks!
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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Hugo wrote:http://www.screenleap.com/932712461

try URL for live screen transmission. I hope it works

CK
Thank you very much. It works perfectly.

Again thanks, it is all another thing in this way.

EDIT: This is 90% a draw IMO.
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

Post by beram »

Lavir wrote:
Hugo wrote:http://www.screenleap.com/932712461

try URL for live screen transmission. I hope it works

CK
Thank you very much. It works perfectly.

Again thanks, it is all another thing in this way.

EDIT: This is 90% a draw IMO.
IMO also
incredible Houdini defense move 22...Bf6 ! (at depth 30)
But perhaps Rybka missed better possibilities with Bf3 or f5! instead of b6?!
[d] 2r1r1k1/1p1npp2/3pbbpp/pP1N4/2P1PPPP/4B3/P2KB3/2R4R w - - 0 23
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

Post by Lavir »

beram wrote:
IMO also
incredible Houdini defense move 22...Bf6 ! (at depth 30)
But perhaps Rybka missed better possibilities with Bf3 or f5! instead of b6?!
[d] 2r1r1k1/1p1npp2/3pbbpp/pP1N4/2P1PPPP/4B3/P2KB3/2R4R w - - 0 23
Yes, really good move. Houdini pondered f5 and I also think it was a better move than b6.

Anyway always incredible games these are.
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

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Btw Rybka Cluster still shows a somewhat +0.36 for herself but I really cannot see where does she sees this little advantage for white.
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Re: Houdini 3 vs ClusterRybka Game 3 ...

Post by Lavir »

IMO the game could even be ended here because this is a clear draw (without a doubt; it's impossible one of the two engines will blunder at this level and it will neither be so good if one will do losing, apart maybe for the programmers resolving the bug) as to not waste renting time so that maybe more games can be played in the future.

EDIT: Seems the parties did read my mind as I was writing this ;-)