Ponziani Swiss 8CPU

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Hi Graham,

The first game between Chiron and Nebula was restarted. Do you know the reason why?
Hope Nebula didn't crash.

Cheers, Dragan

I noticed that.
When ChessGUI thinks that an unfair opening line has been played, it is set to restart the game with a different line.
This happens if both sides believe that a line is favourable to one side (0.70+) for the first 11 or 12 moves out of book.

Cool option........

[Graham Banks]

Hi Graham,

The first game between Chiron and Nebula was restarted. Do you know the reason why?
Hope Nebula didn't crash.

Cheers, Dragan

I noticed that.
When ChessGUI thinks that an unfair opening line has been played, it is set to restart the game with a different line.
This happens if both sides believe that a line is favourable to one side (0.70+) for the first 11 or 12 moves out of book.

Cool option........

Yes, and the parameters for it can be set by the user too.

[Lavir]

Yes, and the parameters for it can be set by the user too.

ChessGUI is much probably the best GUI for engine vs. engine matches. A shame that it would need some graphic designer working on it because sincerely is absolutely awful graphically speaking (and this I'm sure put a lot of users aside).

I understand the author is working on the GUI as a sort of beta project, but it has great potential.

[Dragan]

Yes, but in this case I am not sure it worked well.
Despite being pawn down Nebula had a tempo and was able to exchange all the heavy pieces and reach the pawn down endgame with 2 minors each.
I am 100% certain it would proceed to lose that endgame, but the endgame might have been drawish for engines of similar strength.

[Matthias Gemuh]

I noticed that.
When ChessGUI thinks that an unfair opening line has been played, it is set to restart the game with a different line.
This happens if both sides believe that a line is favourable to one side (0.70+) for the first 11 or 12 moves out of book.

Cool option........

Yes, and the parameters for it can be set by the user too.

Hi Graham,

the logic in the implementation of this option is buggy.
Stop using the option in tournaments where engines swithch sides and replay same openings. The bug shall be fixed !

The problem is: ChessGUI can stupidly flag an opening as unfair in second game even after the engines had found it fair in first game before swithching sides. If the engines found the opening fair before swithching sides, ChessGUI should not test for fairness after engines switch sides.

[Graham Banks]

I noticed that.
When ChessGUI thinks that an unfair opening line has been played, it is set to restart the game with a different line.
This happens if both sides believe that a line is favourable to one side (0.70+) for the first 11 or 12 moves out of book.

Cool option........

Yes, and the parameters for it can be set by the user too.

Hi Graham,

the logic in the implementation of this option is buggy.
Stop using the option in tournaments where engines swithch sides and replay same openings. The bug shall be fixed !

The problem is: ChessGUI can stupidly flag an opening as unfair in second game even after the engines had found it fair in first game before swithching sides. If the engines found the opening fair before swithching sides, ChessGUI should not test for fairness after engines switch sides.

No problem Matthias. Not a biggie in my eyes.
Sudden death in tied knockout matches would be more useful.

ChessGUI is great for engine v engine testing!

[S.Taylor]

Hi Graham,
A very interesting tournament.
Why the Ponziani? There is a particular interest in this old opening?

I play it and have an interest in it.

I'd be prepared to play more thematics if enthusiasts of various openings were prepared to provide me with a small pgn file that I could use to create an opening book from.

Wow! it's a good idea, to play an opening which ANYWAY gives a good game, but MUST be played accurately by opponent, which he might not do if he doesn't know it.

I take it every GM has to know it perfectly, OR can work it out over the board, and therefore against them one would choose a different opening.
Or maybe not?

When it becomes very popular, you have to find a different opening for similar benefits.

In fact, why ever bother learning up the well known openings?

[carldaman]

Yes, and the parameters for it can be set by the user too.

ChessGUI is much probably the best GUI for engine vs. engine matches. A shame that it would need some graphic designer working on it because sincerely is absolutely awful graphically speaking (and this I'm sure put a lot of users aside).

I understand the author is working on the GUI as a sort of beta project, but it has great potential.

Totally agree, Fabio. It has the best thought-out features, but terrible if you want to sit there and watch the games. The viewer is nice however, but as far as I can tell it can only be used to view remote games, the way Graham is doing it.

Can the viewer be set up for locally run tournaments?

Regards,
CL

[Graham Banks]

PONZIANI SWISS 8CPU

Intel Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Ponziani2012.cgb book
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating
All engines 64-bit where available
All engines using 8 cores
9 Round Swiss


Round 2

Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU v Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU v MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
IvanHoe 46e 64-bit 8CPU v Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU (1-0)
Hiarcs 14 8CPU v Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Arasan 15.1 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Tornado 4.88 PL20 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Nebula 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)


Standings after Round 2

2.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - IvanHoe 46e 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
1.0 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arasan 15.1 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
0.5 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU
0.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Tornado 4.88 PL20 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Nebula 1.0 64-bit 8CPU


Round 2 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28089

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.

[Graham Banks]

Round 3

Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU v Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v IvanHoe 46e 64-bit 8CPU
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU
Arasan 15.1 64-bit 8CPU v Robbolito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU
Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU v Jonny 4.00 8CPU
Arminiius 2012-08-14 64-bit 8CPU v Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
Nebula 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Tornado 4.88 PL20 64-bit 8CPU


If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.